― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 13 February 2003 12:40 (twenty-three years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 13 February 2003 12:42 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nick A. (Nick A.), Thursday, 13 February 2003 12:53 (twenty-three years ago)
― duane, Thursday, 13 February 2003 12:54 (twenty-three years ago)
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 13 February 2003 12:55 (twenty-three years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Thursday, 13 February 2003 12:56 (twenty-three years ago)
― gareth (gareth), Thursday, 13 February 2003 12:58 (twenty-three years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Thursday, 13 February 2003 12:58 (twenty-three years ago)
in principle, yes. but people who celebrate it are FOOLS. I just do what I'd do any other day.
like tomorrow - the pub.
― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 13 February 2003 13:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 13 February 2003 13:03 (twenty-three years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Thursday, 13 February 2003 13:03 (twenty-three years ago)
― Vic (Vic), Thursday, 13 February 2003 13:05 (twenty-three years ago)
― gareth (gareth), Thursday, 13 February 2003 13:05 (twenty-three years ago)
IN YOUR HEART YOU KNOW I'M RIGHT.
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 13 February 2003 13:05 (twenty-three years ago)
haawwwlllleeedaaaaayyyy
sheeeeellllleeeebraaaaayaaaate
*breaks down weeping*
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 13 February 2003 13:41 (twenty-three years ago)
Every day should be Valentine's. So there!
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 13 February 2003 13:46 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sarah (starry), Thursday, 13 February 2003 13:46 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 13 February 2003 13:50 (twenty-three years ago)
― kate, Thursday, 13 February 2003 13:50 (twenty-three years ago)
CAREBEAR STARE!!!
MWAAAA HA HAA HAAA!!!!!!
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 13 February 2003 13:51 (twenty-three years ago)
― kate, Thursday, 13 February 2003 13:54 (twenty-three years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 13 February 2003 13:56 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 13 February 2003 13:57 (twenty-three years ago)
If you discount the card-buying, I totally agree. If you're in love with someone, you really should be showing it a fucking sight more than once a year.
― SittingPretty (sittingpretty), Thursday, 13 February 2003 14:09 (twenty-three years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Thursday, 13 February 2003 14:10 (twenty-three years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 13 February 2003 14:11 (twenty-three years ago)
― smee (smee), Thursday, 13 February 2003 14:12 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 13 February 2003 14:16 (twenty-three years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 13 February 2003 14:57 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Thursday, 13 February 2003 14:59 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― smee (smee), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:03 (twenty-three years ago)
I do, however, still mostly dread Valentine's Day, if not for the rehearsed shows of affection that it encourages then for the simple fact that it brings out the disingenuous, single whiners in the same way that rain does worms.
― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:12 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:13 (twenty-three years ago)
My UH! Just like that!
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:15 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:16 (twenty-three years ago)
Suckin' on my titties like you wantin' me...
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:16 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:17 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:20 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:27 (twenty-three years ago)
I am wuvved and I don't celebrate Valentine's Day.
apart from starting this thread and scoffing at any of my friends who talk about how they are going out for a VD-ay meal, I don't make a big production about it.
[flounces off melodramatically]
there is something for Andrew's point about how it's nice to have the choice. part of why I don't like VD-ay is remembering when I didn't have the choice.
― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:36 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:40 (twenty-three years ago)
― smee (smee), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:41 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:41 (twenty-three years ago)
- Quote from my house-mate
― Fuzzy (Fuzzy), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:46 (twenty-three years ago)
(In all honesty, I'm only as bitter as I am in regards to Valentine's Day because I actually so love celebrating it, when I have something to celebrate.)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:57 (twenty-three years ago)
― Fuzzy (Fuzzy), Thursday, 13 February 2003 16:01 (twenty-three years ago)
Stealing my line, you bastard! Give that back!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 February 2003 16:12 (twenty-three years ago)
― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 13 February 2003 16:23 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nick A. (Nick A.), Thursday, 13 February 2003 17:37 (twenty-three years ago)
― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 13 February 2003 17:40 (twenty-three years ago)
― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 13 February 2003 17:41 (twenty-three years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Thursday, 13 February 2003 18:09 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sarah Johnson (coco), Thursday, 13 February 2003 18:12 (twenty-three years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Thursday, 13 February 2003 18:18 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 13 February 2003 18:21 (twenty-three years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 13 February 2003 18:25 (twenty-three years ago)
I won't be able to focus on my beloved this Valentine's Day, or at least not in person. That makes me pretty sad, but the fact that I care about her so much makes me happy again. And I will be seeing her on my birthday, woo!
― Mark C (Mark C), Thursday, 13 February 2003 18:26 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 13 February 2003 18:26 (twenty-three years ago)
"I don't have anyone to celebrate it with" -- so it goes. If you're so bitter about it that you actively resent Valentine's Day, hey, I wouldn't date you either. If someone dumped you near enough to the day that you're still smarting over it, then yeah, that sucks -- but hey, unless you heal quickly, it's hard to schedule a dumping that ensures the dumped is over it before any and all holidays. One way or the other, you were going to wind up with a bad day.
"But EVERY day should be Valentine's Day" -- condescending, sneering cockfarmer. Holidays celebrating X don't imply an exclusive hold on X any more than the suggestion "let's have eggs for breakfast tomorrow" implies "... and ONLY tomorrow, and NEVER EVER AGAIN." Ideally, you should be happy to be you and happy to have been born every day, too -- who has ever used that as an argument against birthday celebrations? And who has ever truly treated their significant other with such devotion and care that it wasn't possible to up the notch for a day because there were no further heights of affection to be reached?
"It's just an excuse to sell overpriced cards, flowers, chocolates, and porn." So don't buy them. The attitude that there's only a limited set of appropriate ways to celebrate Valentine's Day perpetuates the bitterness: you resent not getting it when you're single and then expect it, feel entitled to it, when you're not single.
"But it's externally imposed." So is "having Saturday off" for the bulk of people who work a traditional five-day week. That's not an inherently bad thing. Yeah, the holiday as we know it originated for commercial reasons -- but so did most of the rest of them. No one is so powerless that they can't reclaim a holiday for their own purposes, and doing so needn't benefit the imposers. Celebrate it or don't celebrate it, but making an actual issue out of other people celebrating it is spectacularly petty.
"But I hate feeling obligated to XYZ." Then don't. Talk to your SO. Put the effort in to make it clear that you're not just looking for an excuse to spend less money, time, or attention on them. Consciously or not, one of the reasons so many people appreciate Valentine's Day is because it's a stylized, predetermined, shorthand way for one's SO to demonstrate that they are willing to put a certain amount of effort into a relationship. We feel validated when people who care for us put demonstrable effort into making us happy. But that shouldn't lead to a sense of obligation. No one can make you feel obligated -- they can only punish you for not living up to the obligation. Both can be dealt with.
― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 13 February 2003 18:43 (twenty-three years ago)
*(Ok, so maybe earlier in this post I said Every day should be Valentine's. So there!, but that was obviously in favor in the day, so...)
Also, apologies to anyone offended by all my mushiness. I'll try to get some of it out of my system tomorrow.
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 13 February 2003 19:51 (twenty-three years ago)
I mean, Christmas as we know it was invented by Coca-Cola's advertising team, but most people don't bring THAT up every time the holiday is mentioned.
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 13 February 2003 20:26 (twenty-three years ago)
even though it's not a true thing.
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 13 February 2003 20:30 (twenty-three years ago)
― Maria (Maria), Thursday, 13 February 2003 20:31 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sean (Sean), Thursday, 13 February 2003 22:11 (twenty-three years ago)
― kephm, Thursday, 13 February 2003 22:14 (twenty-three years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 13 February 2003 23:30 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sean (Sean), Friday, 14 February 2003 00:30 (twenty-three years ago)
― duane, Friday, 14 February 2003 00:31 (twenty-three years ago)
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 14 February 2003 00:35 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 14 February 2003 00:36 (twenty-three years ago)
― di smith (lucylurex), Friday, 14 February 2003 02:27 (twenty-three years ago)
― Maria (Maria), Friday, 14 February 2003 02:39 (twenty-three years ago)
No, but I would LIKE to receive them.
Seriously, the Catholic Church has desanctified (or whatever they do to saints they don't believe in any more) St. Valentine. Therefore, the foundation on which February 14 exists has been removed.
Now why won't the whole marketing-industrial structure surrounding Valentine's Day collapse? [/cri_de_coeur]
― j.lu (j.lu), Friday, 14 February 2003 03:50 (twenty-three years ago)
"I know the horse has bolted;I am one year late.Will you marry meAnd be my life-long mate?To N., love always D."
WHO IS SHE?
― Lara (Lara), Friday, 14 February 2003 14:06 (twenty-three years ago)
1) Who in this bitch got an anonymous valentine's greeting2) If so, do you reckon you know who sent it to you?
I obviously got none, which is no surprise given I have never received one of these anonymous secret admirer type thingies. Hence I am misanthropic about the whole V-day schtick and not an attention seeking cockfarmer.
― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 14 February 2003 14:19 (twenty-three years ago)
I am OK about that.
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 14 February 2003 14:20 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ed (dali), Friday, 14 February 2003 14:22 (twenty-three years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Friday, 14 February 2003 14:25 (twenty-three years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 14 February 2003 14:27 (twenty-three years ago)
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Friday, 14 February 2003 14:28 (twenty-three years ago)
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 14 February 2003 14:29 (twenty-three years ago)
Ha ha.
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 14 February 2003 14:30 (twenty-three years ago)
I'm not sure I even buy this, though.
An atmosphere of Romance (in the culture, in the world, in the rainy shopping streets of silver hearts) is a good thing. The problem is that the older you get, the harder it is to be part of, or take part in, that atmosphere. And maybe it was already hard enough, for me, a decade ago.
― the pinefox, Friday, 14 February 2003 14:37 (twenty-three years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Friday, 14 February 2003 14:39 (twenty-three years ago)
"We met upon the boards one nightA friendship electronicExpressed alone in words and thoughts Inevitably platonic.
Our lives are way too far apartTo mingle in the fleshBut sometimes more than friendsOur hearts and feelings mesh.
And you my love reveal yourselfWith just a voice, no faceIn our strange and funny worldOur precious cyberspace"
Spooky!
― Lara (Lara), Friday, 14 February 2003 15:20 (twenty-three years ago)
Perhaps. It really makes no difference to me. I may in the minority, but I do not give a fig about V-day either way. It's kind of sweet to receive valentines from friends or a gift, but I don't buy cards for people and I don't really care to celebrate it. It doesn't make me unhappy, I'm just indifferent to it. I have always felt this way regardless of whether I have been in a relationship or not.
― Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 14 February 2003 15:24 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 14 February 2003 15:27 (twenty-three years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Friday, 14 February 2003 15:29 (twenty-three years ago)
In fact, that same year my best friend overheard some totally random anonymous female voice say on their cheesewagon-ride to school "I'm gonna be Nick C***man for Halloween". I was kinda creeped out for awhile after that (especially 'cause I was neither a hottie nor popular whatsoever, so anyone that chose to stalk me must have been very very desperate...I hope they were just making fun of me).
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 14 February 2003 15:30 (twenty-three years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 14 February 2003 15:31 (twenty-three years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 14 February 2003 15:36 (twenty-three years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Friday, 14 February 2003 15:37 (twenty-three years ago)
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 14 February 2003 15:39 (twenty-three years ago)
― Maria (Maria), Friday, 14 February 2003 16:36 (twenty-three years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 14 February 2003 16:37 (twenty-three years ago)
... no, not today.
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 14 February 2003 17:28 (twenty-three years ago)
We all got copies of the firm sexual harassment policy. I thought that was sweet.
― felicity (felicity), Friday, 14 February 2003 17:37 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nick A. (Nick A.), Friday, 14 February 2003 17:46 (twenty-three years ago)
Valentines day will be easy this year as I don't even have a crush this year. Somehow my radical isolation is paying off! Valentines Day used to depress me in high school because: a) I was a hopeless romantic (still am but repressed) b) i never had a SO on Valentines Day c) I knew enough gossip to know which girls who were swooning over flowers were getting cheated on d) I knew, and still know, I would never cheat.
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Friday, 14 February 2003 18:48 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Friday, 14 February 2003 20:12 (twenty-three years ago)