Heavy readers of fiction readers: would you care if your significant other is mostly not interested in it?

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Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 15 February 2003 15:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, any SO of mine would have to grasp the importance of books to me, and I find it quite hard to imagine getting seriously involved with someone who doesn't read, but it wouldn't have to be fiction, and there wouldn't have to be any overlap with what I read. It would be a loss though, not being able to discuss at least a proportion of what I read with someone familiar with the authors, I think.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 15 February 2003 15:22 (twenty-three years ago)

well, it wouldn't matter if a future (haha!!) girlfriend of mine didn't read fiction or books. If she's into movies or music we could discuss that instead. anything. people are diff and therefore have diff interests. the contrast in tastes is something i'd like.

I wouldn't care abt books (though i do read but I'm not 'heavy' since I don't have the time).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 15 February 2003 15:27 (twenty-three years ago)

it would not be a big problem but it's one of the things i like discussing most, so it would be a loss.

Maria (Maria), Saturday, 15 February 2003 16:01 (twenty-three years ago)

What Martin said.

To amplify a bit more, there's no chance that your SO's interests will align perfectly with yours (not that I'd find it tolerable to live with a facsimile of myself!) But there has to be an understanding that it's important to you and a willingness to make room for it in your mutual life.

For example, if you mention a book you're reading and spend three minutes explaining what you like about it, ideally your SO would smile, nod, listen for a few minutes, say "That's nice" and steer the conversation to a topic of greater personal interest. Growing irritation at the slightest mention of fiction would be A Bad Thing. Asking, "how can you stand to read so much fiction?" as if such an activity were an infallible sign of moral weakness or incipient idiocy is also Bad.

Aimless, Saturday, 15 February 2003 16:23 (twenty-three years ago)

people who try to talk to you when yr reading don't get no love from me

duane, Saturday, 15 February 2003 22:03 (twenty-three years ago)

i don't care about discussing bks tho

duane, Saturday, 15 February 2003 22:04 (twenty-three years ago)

It doesn't bother me that my significant other is a much less heavy reader of non-fiction than I.

DV (dirtyvicar), Saturday, 15 February 2003 23:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Is that a double negative?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 15 February 2003 23:52 (twenty-three years ago)

I think you're all barking up the wrong tree. I think Rockist mean 'it' as a euphemism for a bit of the other.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 16 February 2003 01:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Anyhow, my SO expressed actual "hurt" that I "don't like" fiction (which is an exaggeration to begin with). I overreacted to her overreaction about some remarks of mine that seemed pretty mild (I simply said that I hadn't been able to get interested in Lolita, and more problematically, I used an example from The Life of Pi, a novel she had recommended to me, to illustrate the sort of passage in fiction which often bores me--but she knows that I liked that novel overall); and now the whole thing is a mess. My doubts about the relationship came to the surface and. . . it's a mess.

Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 16 February 2003 23:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Hang in there, Rocket Scientist - my live-in SO has limited interest in reading anything other than hard science fiction, cyberpunk, and instructions for gamer-geek games. Occasionally I can get him to read something else, but it's a struggle.

When we first got together the issue of reading material was a matter of contention, on my side - I need to have someone that I can "talk books" with - someone who introduces me to new authors and genres and so forth, and who is interested in some of the same books that I am interested in, too. I do read some SciFi, but it's not my first love.

We really did fight over things - I'd get mad if he wouldn't read something I'd gve to him, and even madder if he did read it and then didn't like it. Worst was when I gave him a copy of *my* favorite SciFi book and he ripped it to shreds. It was like he was negating me and my tastes, somehow. It hurt - it felt like his dislike of the book was a dislike of me - that, as odd as it sounds, was a very real feeling and anxiety. I seriously thought about ending things over the whole episode. However, eventually I figured-out that we were pretty damn good together in other areas, and I was happy that he *did* read, and, really, how important was the whole thing?

Eventually I met my non-live-in SO, and was thrilled to discover that he and I had similar tastes, in some areas, of reading genres and authors. (Though he is much more of a "LitSnob" than I am.) So I am, now, getting that need met in another manner.

Anyway, my suggestion (and this is coming from a non-professional anything, so take it with a grain or two of salt) is that you wait till things calm down and try to talk it out, sanely. I mean, she may be feeling that you're rejecting her, as I felt. Or this may be a sign of a serious incompatibility issue. If she does need someone to talk books with, there are some good books groups around, on the Net and in-person.

Good luck.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Monday, 17 February 2003 02:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Er, my apologies - that last post should have been addressed to "Rockist Scientist" instead of what I originally typed.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Monday, 17 February 2003 02:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Thanks, I'm Passing Open Windows. (How shall I abbreviate that?)

We talked and we are going to take a bit of a break from each other, but not too long, and plan on probably getting together to talk after that. Well, I'm pretty sure I'll be the one to call her and see where she is at that point. The one bad thing was that the conversation we had tonight made me realize that our differences and our mutual misunderstandings go even deeper than I had thought. She really is frustrated by what she sees as my lack of serious attention to our discussion of books. I tend to be lazy and sloppy unless I am particularly interested in something. I don't want to feel that I must provide graduate literature seminar level responses to every book we happen to read together. She had mentioned the possibilitiy of reading some philosophy with me a while back, which would probably interest me more. I ought to follow up on that. I also have a list of fiction authors, or particular novels, I am interested in checking out. (If only we could get along in every respect as well as we get along in bed.)

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 17 February 2003 02:53 (twenty-three years ago)

*grin* Just call me Laura - it's easier.

I am glad to hear that you two are talking and all - that's usually a better sign then stormy silence, I believe. But it still sucks.

I am sorry that the misunderstandings go deeper than you'd originally thought - that's a painful revelation and I don't have the words that will offer any sympathy, so I'll not comment any further, except to say that I've been through it and survived, so you should get through it and survive, too.

Yes, do follow-up on the joint reading stuff, if it's something that you're honestly interested in reading (as opposed to reading it to make her happy and you seeing it as being drudgery - that'll just increase the hostilities). Is she willing to read stuff that you're interested in, or is this a one-way arrangement?

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Monday, 17 February 2003 03:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Laura, no, she's willing to read something I suggest. She had specifically brought up reading Hegel, since she read a tiny bit in college and was left baffled, and thought I might be able to help her with it. I've never read Hegel, but I was hoping to have more Kant under my belt before I tried to read him. But that's a possibility. She's interested in knowing what fiction I have enjoyed. I did give her some Borges (pseudo non-fiction!) a little while back and she liked that. We didn't get too much conversation out of it, however. I think I would need to re-read anything I've read in the past if we were going to discuss it, but there are several titles I'd be interested in re-reading.

This is all assuming that we decide to get back together.

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 17 February 2003 04:12 (twenty-three years ago)

*smile* Heck - you might be inclined to read some fiction even if you don't get back together, RS - never count anything out.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Monday, 17 February 2003 04:17 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...
Revive. Fuck off all of you non-fiction reader hataz!

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 24 March 2005 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)

my wife and I both read a fairly wide variety of stuff - both fiction and non-fiction. There's some overlap in the sci-fi and non-fiction areas, and if one of us reads something the other is *really* into then the other might read it, but in general who cares? Both of us just like to read (I was raised by a librarian and a teacher - quel surprise). I'm a little mystified by various ILMers that have narrowed their reading to specific genres or subjects, that doesn't make any sense to me - bios, history, science, mysticism/religion, essays, criticism, sci-fi, crime, straight novels from various countries - it's all just grist for the intellectual mill.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 24 March 2005 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

My boyfriend reads a lot more fiction than I do. He's always reading a novel, and for me it's only every fourth or fifth book that's a novel. But I read fiction really quickly, I just wolf it down.

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Thursday, 24 March 2005 02:49 (twenty-one years ago)

My wife always has fiction on the go, and its a big deal for her. She jokes (with a great deal of truth) that I read a book (fiction) a decade. But, it has never been a problem over the last 20 years together.
We just spent five days on holiday. She read while I enjoyed a ballgame. She read while I drove and listen to my favourite music.
She read while I walked miles up and down the beach. To an outsider, this might seem strained. But we did plenty together to make it a lovely time all around.

I guess the initial question is very similar to:

Heavy music lovers: would you care if your significant other is mostly not interested in what you listen to?

peepee (peepee), Thursday, 24 March 2005 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)

People with different passions, to me: no problem at all.
People whose significant passion are of different intensity, to mine: I have learnt not even really to bother.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 24 March 2005 04:28 (twenty-one years ago)

(Er, that "passion" shld be plural and um bother as in "try to date", not "care", grahhh)

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 24 March 2005 04:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder if Scott would post on this thread if he knew I weren't lurking around. I know he wishes I read more fiction. When I do pick up a work of fiction (maybe 3 or 4 times a year), he gets a twinkle in his eye. Sort of like the nice hug around the back and kiss on the cheek I'm bound to get when he finds me baking anything in the kitchen (also maybe 3 or 4 times a year). Before we got together I think he thought I was a more avid reader.

I tend to read a lot of historical nonfiction. My obsession is Reconstruction. When I do read fiction these days, it ties in with that. I'm reading The Known World by Edward Jones now.

Maria D. (Maria D.), Thursday, 24 March 2005 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

My boyfriend reads a lot more fiction than I do. He's always reading a novel, and for me it's only every fourth or fifth book that's a novel. But I read fiction really quickly, I just wolf it down.

My niece used to read seven books per week. I can't even fathom reading one book a week (unless it's trash like Crichton/Brown/...).

nathalie barefoot in the head (stevie nixed), Thursday, 24 March 2005 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Does the thread title imply that fiction readers are fat?

Huk-L, Thursday, 24 March 2005 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)


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