are you a snob? (in any sense)

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well?

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 17 February 2003 23:58 (twenty-three years ago)

You only wish you could ask that question as well as I can. You parvenu.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 00:01 (twenty-three years ago)

definitely

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 00:01 (twenty-three years ago)

yes.

― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 00:02 (twenty-three years ago)

uh huh

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 00:02 (twenty-three years ago)

sure thing.

― Graham (graham), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 00:03 (twenty-three years ago)

me too, it's like I dislike people when I feel they are not up to the "standard" of people I already like, im probably a snob in a few other ways too.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 00:04 (twenty-three years ago)

or sometimes someone will say something which I feel is stupid or cringey and then everytime I see them I just get recall and it's like that noise when a knife scrapes off a plate.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 00:05 (twenty-three years ago)

on many fronts, clearly.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 00:05 (twenty-three years ago)

ts : snobbishness vs misanthropy

― Ess Kay (esskay), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 00:07 (twenty-three years ago)

why not both?

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 00:08 (twenty-three years ago)

or sometimes someone will say something which I feel is stupid or cringey and then everytime I see them I just get recall and it's like that noise when a knife scrapes off a plate.

but how quick are you to forgive your own stupid or cringey statements?

― Aaron A., Tuesday, 18 February 2003 00:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Yep, intellectual snobbery is a quite good way of not speaking to fucking morons.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 00:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Of course not.

― Curtis Stephens, Tuesday, 18 February 2003 00:18 (twenty-three years ago)

i don't know aaron though mine are never as bad to me hence this thread

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 00:20 (twenty-three years ago)

oh well sometimes they are perhaps but it depends on company

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 00:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Yep. Without a doubt.

― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 00:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Sure, about some things, absolutely.

― Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 00:40 (twenty-three years ago)

If I won't forgive myself, why should I forgive them?

― Graham (graham), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 01:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah Im sure I am. I know Im a definite reverse-snob (ie, I find displays of wealth vulgar).

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 01:27 (twenty-three years ago)

I used to avoid social events and such because I was really too shy to meet people, and then I'd worry that I would be thought a snob. But in the past few years, I've noticed my attitude has become "why should I waste my time going to [social event] when I won't even like the people there." It's not even an excuse for shyness anymore, I just refuse to go anywhere I might have to feign interest in boring people's prattle. I don't CARE anymore if people think I'm a snob, because I AM one! I guess this whole thing was a self-fulfilling prophecy. I'm currently struggling with my gross hypocrisy here, as well as the question - is being a snob BAD (what I thought my whole life), or is it acceptable (acts as some sort of quality control)?

― Poppy (poppy), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 02:52 (twenty-three years ago)

No Way! I got nothing but love for my fellow man.

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 02:54 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm not going to lower myself to your level by addressing that asinine question.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 03:39 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm a snob. no question.

*reads thread*

...but not about PEOPLE, for christ's sake. what's wrong with you all?

― Dave M. (rotten03), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 05:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Excuse me for a second, I think my attention is wanted over there. It's really great to see you, though!

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 05:15 (twenty-three years ago)

"I'll call you!" *runs away*

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 05:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Psssh. No, I'm not in college anymore, thank you very much

― Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 05:29 (twenty-three years ago)

I would have to say that I am a snob, but only in the best sense of the word - rather a first rate snob of the sort you'd want your sister to marry and all that. A snob with blonde roots and a sense of style. That sort, you know.

― Aimless, Tuesday, 18 February 2003 05:48 (twenty-three years ago)

nah, I'm so egalitarian I post regularly on the most insular general-message board on the Internet

― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 06:52 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm not sure that "you are boring and I don't want to talk to you" is the same as "I'm a snob".

― Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 07:48 (twenty-three years ago)

I used to think that I was a snob. But now I realised I'm just an equal opportunity misanthropist.

― kate, Tuesday, 18 February 2003 07:49 (twenty-three years ago)

That's not a word, is it?

― kate, Tuesday, 18 February 2003 07:49 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah -- y'all suck and i wouldn't be seen in public with any of y'all.

― Tad (llamasfur), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 08:04 (twenty-three years ago)

I draw the line at tramps and Pixies fans.

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 08:13 (twenty-three years ago)

i don't think i'm a snob. i just find a lot of people hard to relate to.

― di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 08:23 (twenty-three years ago)

I draw the line at tramps and Pixies fans

there go the boards, then.

― Dave M. (rotten03), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 08:37 (twenty-three years ago)

can we make that our new slogan?

"ILXOR: We draw the line at tramps and Pixies fans"

― Dave M. (rotten03), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 08:37 (twenty-three years ago)

snob or shy?

― ducklingmonster, Tuesday, 18 February 2003 08:42 (twenty-three years ago)

SNOB

― ducklingmonster, Tuesday, 18 February 2003 08:43 (twenty-three years ago)

ilxor: gypsies, tramps and thieves.

― di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 08:43 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm a bit of a music snob. but i'm not that bad.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 11:07 (twenty-three years ago)

I probably am.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 11:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Does anyone want to say how?

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 11:19 (twenty-three years ago)

In a very real sense!

― Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 11:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Bit of everything really Ronan. I'm an inverse snob about music sometimes; I'm a bit of a snob when it comes to books (distrust lad-lit for instance, and non-fiction books which look too generalist, though I've had a turnaround on popular history and think it's great). I'm a snob on films in a really self-defeating way in that I assume international cinema is automatically better even though I never watch it myself! My snobbish and egalitarian attitudes are constantly at war when it comes to the interweb, particularly writing on the interweb (my lip really curls when someone posts an 'old' link for instance, which is awful). I'm not consciously snobby about class, but given my background there must be some attitudes carried over.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 11:31 (twenty-three years ago)

No. I am absolutely not a snob. Ingrained prejudices do not count as snobbery, especially when you become aware of them and try to counter them. Snobbery also suggests a degree of pride in said snobbery (which I definately get from the responses above) - which also suggests a lack of attempting to deal with said prejudices.

Do you think this question would have had a different answer, or at least tone of answer, if the question was are you racist, sexist, classist etc...

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 12:19 (twenty-three years ago)

What's the difference between classism and snobbery?

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 12:22 (twenty-three years ago)

no I'm not a snob.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 12:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Well the people here think you can be snobbish about any little thing (taste in music - sheesh) - but snobbery is surely classism from the priviliged perspective.

People who are snobs re intelligence should think closely about whether that is a pejudice based on education, or even language - or laziness on their behalf at not wanting to talk to anyone who is different to them and their background.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 13:06 (twenty-three years ago)

I can't really be bothered to be a snob about things.

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 17:48 (twenty-three years ago)

hehe! my old 1940's dictionary has some great meanings for snob, let me share them with you:

a shoemaker
a vulgar person who apes gentility
a pretender who overacts his part
one who works during a strike for lower wages

(source: Nuttals Standard Dictionary of the English Language)

So, I'm guess I'm not any of those, well maybe the third one. I'm not really a snob about music, books, art or education.

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 18:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Is hipsterism (as defined by JtN not by countless morons) basically just a version of snobbery?

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 18:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Jel, for example, is the antithesis of a snob and a hipster.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 18:11 (twenty-three years ago)

one who works during a strike for lower wages

huh? isn't this a scab?

― Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 18:42 (twenty-three years ago)

it's also a snob according to that dictionary! I think a scab is more someone who is not in the union and breaks a strike, rather than works for lower wages.

(wow, thanks N!)

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 18:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Surely employers are more likely to pay *more* wages than less during a strike? Snob = imbecile?

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 18:51 (twenty-three years ago)

I am kind of a snob. certainly I take it for granted that my own tastes are more developed and sophisticated and basically *better* than those of the multitude.

I put it to a friend once that she was a snob. She retorted that she could not be a snob, because snob was an abbreivation for sine nobilitas (or something like that, meaning would-be nobility) whereas she was actually an aristocrat.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 19:26 (twenty-three years ago)

I am def a snob. If I'm not interested in making small talk, I simply won't do it. And sometimes, if someone is talking to me about something I'm not interested in, I'll just zone out and won't respond very much. I figure it's a better idea just to go ahead and kill the conversation than have to drag it out forever. Then I'll look away or maybe start talking to someone else.
I don't necessarily think LESS of these people that I avoid conversing with, but I just don't feel that we're on the same wavelength.

However, if there are people around that I'm interested in getting to know I won't act snobby at all (or at least I'll try not to do so).

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 19:31 (twenty-three years ago)

I am a shoe-snob. If your shoes don't pass the test, you've no chance.

― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 22:11 (twenty-three years ago)

I lean towards intellectual and artistic snobbery at times. I don't think that people who aren't intelligent etc. are bad and I don't dislike them or anything, but I'm rarely as interested in being with them. I know what Pete is getting at upthread, but having been the most common kid in a public school (US: posh private school), and having some people think I must therefore be stupid taught me any lessons I needed there, I think. And it only took my first weeks at Cambridge to see the difference between top education/qualifications and intelligence.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 20:48 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm really not sure how people are defining a snob. here's what dictionary.com sez:

1)One who tends to patronize, rebuff, or ignore people regarded as social inferiors and imitate, admire, or seek association with people regarded as social superiors.

2)One who affects an offensive air of self-satisfied superiority in matters of taste or intellect.

for me, no to number 1 and yes to number 2.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 20:54 (twenty-three years ago)

My snobbery shows through most plainly when I am actively trying not to be snobbish.

― Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 20:55 (twenty-three years ago)

I guess it is all a matter of taste

― Jan Geerinck (jahsonic), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 22:16 (twenty-three years ago)

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