Cincinnatti: Americas best kept secret?

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no one ever mentions cincinnati. so, whats it like? and why is rarely spoken of?

gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 11:11 (twenty-three years ago)

that 'frozen chickens' stunt, riots, betting scandals

dave q, Tuesday, 18 February 2003 11:20 (twenty-three years ago)

As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 11:33 (twenty-three years ago)

i think Delakota wrote a song about Cincinnati gareth - searchy searchy

also, whats a Bengal when its at 'ome?

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 11:37 (twenty-three years ago)

and can we eat it?

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 11:38 (twenty-three years ago)

My mum lived there when she was a teenager (she's British). She managed not to work for Procter and Gamble, though. I have a Cincinatti Reds baseball cap dating back to her time there.

Mark C (Mark C), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 11:41 (twenty-three years ago)

hahahahahahah g you live in such a dream world

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 12:20 (twenty-three years ago)

A Bengal is a type of tiger. Cincy isn't very nice; there's a GORGEOUS train station and a surprisingly strong Klan presence.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 12:34 (twenty-three years ago)

a tiger? of course...i knew that honest

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 12:58 (twenty-three years ago)

I can't say I was very impressed by Cincinati, it's kind of on the scuzzy side and there didn't seem to be much to do.

Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 13:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Bad hybrid of the worst of the midwest, south and northeast, virtually none of the redeeming qualities of any region. Weather--hot and humid summer/incredibly dank and wet/winter. No spring and fall worth mentioning.

No clubs...totally yupped-out... sour, bland and conservative people...rated the worst place in USA for single people...

Race riots in 2001, result of policeman shooting an unarmed black scofflaw in alley in downtown. Which, apart from a few good features (we visited city last fall for 4 days), has been abandoned in favor of suburbs. Typically.

its heyday was the '40s, the 1840s.

In all--absolutely one of the worst cities in America, you'd be better off visiting Louisville, Cleveland or Indianapolis. We had a terrible time...and the cuisine the city is known for is this totally disgusting "chili" spiced with cinnamon, served on spaghetti.

Also, no one can spell it--Cincinnati.

frank p. jones (frank p. jones), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 14:06 (twenty-three years ago)

i think Delakota wrote a song about Cincinnati gareth - searchy searchy

"C'Mon Cincinnati" -- a sample from Steve McQueen poker film, "The Cincinnati Kid."

Ten or so posts and no mention of Larry Flynt?

scott pl. (scott pl.), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 14:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Come to think of it, the city had it in for Mapplethorpe as well -- Cincy officials seem to like censorship, don't they?

scott pl. (scott pl.), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 14:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Fuck Cincinatti--it's full of behind-the-times conservative boring old farts. Come to Columbus--we've got behind-the-times apolitical amusing old farts! (plus, birthplace of Rahsaan Roland Kirk)

J (Jay), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 14:37 (twenty-three years ago)

No mention of Sudsy Malone's?

Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 14:37 (twenty-three years ago)

haha scofflaw = one of my favourite words

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 14:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Cincinnati, when driving south, was the first city to have three public bathrooms.

No One, Tuesday, 18 February 2003 14:41 (twenty-three years ago)

its heyday was the '40s, the 1840s.

If only because the Know-Nothing Party drove all the immigrants out of Louisville...

Flynt may have been made (in)famous by Cincy, but he's definitely a Kentuckian. Not sure if that should make me proud or not.

Actually, there's a lot of Northern Kentuckians who claim to be from Cincy - Dave Justice comes to mind. I never trust ANYONE from Covington or Florence (Y'all) who sez they're from Cincy.

Cincy = my least favorite town in the U.S.

hstencil, Tuesday, 18 February 2003 14:41 (twenty-three years ago)

I have cousins who live there. Unlike Mark C's mother, Cousin H does work for P&G.

rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 16:40 (twenty-three years ago)

My brother used to live in Kentucky, about twenty miles south of Cincy. So, one time I went to visit him along with his girlfriend, who still lived in Chicago. They went to a Reds / Cubs game while I went exploring. Downtown was dead, so I walked through this lovely old neighborhood with nineteenth century buildings, art galleries, antique shops, etc. All of a sudden this guy comes out of one of the shops and says, "look! It's a white person! I haven't seen a white person down here in x number of years!"

Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 16:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Also, there is a cool gallery there called the "Carl Solway Gallery". I haven't been to it, but I've seen their exhibits in Art Chicago - some of the most interesting contemporary art & visionary design.

Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 16:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Jerry Springer was once Mayor of Cincinnati.

No One (SiggyBaby), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 16:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Ah yes, the city whose name no one can spell.

Some good music in Cincinnati.

Some grebt Cincinnati songs: "Lights of Cincinnati" (Scott Walker), "Cincinnati Lou" (Merle Travis), "Cincinnati Blues" (Jesse Fuller), and of course the WKRP theme song.

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 16:56 (twenty-three years ago)

It's such a horrible place, I have friends who lived there (for a while) and not one of them could wait to get out. I could just feel the blandness while I was there. It reinforced all my dark irrational thoughts about the Midwest...no culture, no grace, nothing...plus, Cincinnati has this superiority complex regarding the south, when they're right across the Ohio River from Kentucky, which isn't really the south unless you go about 150 miles to the south...when the south is about 30 years ahead of Cincinnati in every way, including race relations. The people in that town just seemed to have no sense of humor, none of the bonhomie that southern people so often have....

I've been to Columbus, big flat college town, seems like a nothing place, but got the sense it had more to offer, and was at least in the late twentieth century. Northern Ohio seemed best of all, Cleveland strikes me as more normal, pretty unpretentious, and much more like a northeastern town, sort of, along with Pittsburgh, the last outpost of civilization according to snotty east coast people like me...

frank p. jones (frank p. jones), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 18:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Best Cincinnati songs, though, are the Beach Boys' "Susie Cincinnati" and Roogalator's great "Cincinnati Fatback" (recorded for Stiff).

frank p. jones (frank p. jones), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 18:57 (twenty-three years ago)

I think we're keeping it a secret for a reason

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 18:57 (twenty-three years ago)

It's actually very pretty I think.

dark irrational thoughts about the Midwest...no culture, no grace, nothing




pluralism
2.
Philos. A theory or system of thought which recognizes more than one ultimate principle: opposed to MONISM. Also, the theory that the knowable world is made up of a plurality of interacting things.

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 19:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Cinncinnati missed its ticket to fame and fortune early in the 1950s when the City Council voted against giving Walt Disney zoning permission to build the Flaming Whirlpool Of Death, an early prototype theme park that soon was reworked as Disneyland and sited in S. California.

Aimless, Tuesday, 18 February 2003 19:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Hmmm... I do know that its best venue (the Southgate House) is actually in Kentucky.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 19:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Do Venus Flytrap and Johnny Fever still DJ there?

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 19:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Goetta!

Paul Eater (eater), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 19:20 (twenty-three years ago)

is it named after Cincinnattus?

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 19:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Southgate House is great. And it's in Newport, KY just over the river. It's also the birthplace of the Tommy Gun.

cprek (cprek), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 20:08 (twenty-three years ago)

I saw Guided By Voices there in 1996 or so. Whee!

Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 20:22 (twenty-three years ago)

is it okay to pronounce it "Cinc-uh-nattuh" and scowl?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 20:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Awww, will no one fuel Gareth's fantasy?

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 21:27 (twenty-three years ago)

dark irrational thoughts about the Midwest...no culture, no grace, nothing
pluralism
2. Philos. A theory or system of thought which recognizes more than one ultimate principle: opposed to MONISM. Also, the theory that the knowable world is made up of a plurality of interacting things.
-- Amateurist

Yeah, but amateurist, sometimes you want to keep your amateur status and you just don't wanna know. Thanks for today's lesson, though.

frank p. jones (frank p. jones), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 21:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Forgot to add: invoking "pluralism" regarding Cincinnati is a bit, ahh, "ironic." Look that up yo-self.

frank p. jones (frank p. jones), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 21:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Damn you all! Now I've got that bloody song looping in my brain and I know I'll be dreaming of Loni Anderson and crew tonight - but not in a good way.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 21:43 (twenty-three years ago)

You do realize, Frank, that most of the "cultured" people out east are from somewhere else? Seems you people have trouble growing your own.....

Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 22:55 (twenty-three years ago)

...unless we're talking about the Mafia. Well, hey - thanks a lot!

Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 22:59 (twenty-three years ago)

I have no idea what Cincinnati's like, but it's GOT to be better than Dayton. I spent a week there for work, and I don't think I've ever seen a deader place. (Now I know, for instance, why GBV seems to tour so often.)

mike a (mike a), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 23:52 (twenty-three years ago)

oh, and I do like the Cincinnati chili w/cinnamon in it.

mike a (mike a), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 23:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Dayton has got to be better than Toledo.

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 23:58 (twenty-three years ago)

(Where searching for a restaurant downtown reveals derelict buildings, darkened stores, and quite a few strip clubs.)

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 23:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Toledo rocks. The Glass City, baby. The Mud Hens. Good head shops. Tony Packos hot dogs. A great zoo. Birthplace of the Necros (oh, ok, it was Maumee, same thing).

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 00:03 (twenty-three years ago)

OK, sorry for slandering it. It was a poor impression from arriving there a few times (inevitably late in the evening) on trips from New England to Chicago.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 00:06 (twenty-three years ago)

"(Where searching for a restaurant downtown reveals derelict buildings, darkened stores, and quite a few strip clubs.)"

Sounds good to me. Ditto on the Cin. Chili.

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 00:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Nah, you can slander it if'n you want to. I mean it IS kind of a shithole. But it also does have one or two interesting things going for it, and some good decent people who probably aren't around right now to read this. Like every city, really.

(I haven't been to Dayton, so I can't even compare; I have a cousin who has lived there for a couple years but I've never visited)

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 00:12 (twenty-three years ago)

They have King's Island there... One of the best roller-coaster parks in the world with THE BEAST [scary big wooden roller coaster].

Also, University of Cincinnati has one of the best basketball programs in the country, coached by Bob Huggins. Nick Van Exel, Corie Blount, Kenyon Martin and a variety of thuggish street-ball players came from there.

phil-two, Wednesday, 19 February 2003 04:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, believe me I've ridden the Beast. It's definitely worth the trip.

Huggins' crew ain't doing so hot this year though....

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 04:52 (twenty-three years ago)

All of Ohio is a depressing, monotonous Hell, really, except that makes it sound more interesting than it really is. Have family that lives/lived all over there. And I'm not just saying this because I'm a native Pittsburgher bred to despise Cleveland =)

The only defense my cousins could come up with when we used to diss their state, back in the day, was "how more presidents (8) came from Ohio than anywhere else" - how is that a good thing anyway??

Vic (Vic), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 06:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Corie Blount - hell yeah!

Cincy's basketball program is corrupt as hell though.

James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 06:47 (twenty-three years ago)

plus they always fuck up my brackets

James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 06:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Cincy's basketball program is corrupt as hell though

Gee, ya think?

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 06:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Cincinnati is an episode of City Confidential waiting to happen.

Scary scary place.

Chris Barrus (xibalba), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 08:06 (twenty-three years ago)

i lived in cincinnati for 13 years and columbus for 3 now and i like columbus much better.

don't be dissing on the chili, though. once you get hooked, it's much like cocaine.

todd burns, Wednesday, 19 February 2003 15:06 (twenty-three years ago)

oh, best thing about cincinnati:

as you go down I-71, the main highway into the city there is a huge billboard made by rumpke (the waste disposal company) that says in huge letters: "don't trash the 'nati". that and the chili (going through withdrawal here).

todd burns, Wednesday, 19 February 2003 15:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Cincy is a k-lame city with some wonderful local music bands & venues, great people, but absurd racial tensions.

It's kinda weird, but also one of my favorite places within driving distances of da Lex. I actually get quite a kick out of the reactions I get in parts of downtown where most whiteys fear to tread.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 15:16 (twenty-three years ago)

King's Island is great, but hey it's like 35 miles north of Cincy. Okay, so I guess the Queen City can keep it.

How could the Bearcats blow anybody's bracket? They predictably never make it past the first round. Cardinals OWN them.

hstencil, Wednesday, 19 February 2003 15:22 (twenty-three years ago)

All of Ohio is a depressing, monotonous Hell, really, except that makes it sound more interesting than it really is. Have family that lives/lived all over there. And I'm not just saying this because I'm a native Pittsburgher bred to despise Cleveland =)

Now now... the countryside of Eastern Ohio is actually very, very beautiful. I actually like it better than upstate New York. All rolling hills from the Appalachians which, when the leaves turn, is about as close to Walt Whitman's vision of America as I've ever seen.

Toledo is pretty crap though.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 15:26 (twenty-three years ago)

http://media.nba.com/media/playerfile/nick_van_exel.jpg

best thing to come out of cincinatti

dan (dan), Wednesday, 19 February 2003 18:56 (twenty-three years ago)

three months pass...

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