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Norah Jones is not that Good, also Tom, would you like my cleaned up, and edited real time notes on this years list?

― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 24 February 2003 07:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Which good is she then?

― Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 24 February 2003 07:35 (twenty-three years ago)

she is the good which isnt good.

― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 24 February 2003 07:53 (twenty-three years ago)

The grammy's are a ridiculous and meretricous bag of plastic jewelry and dogshit

― Mike Hanle y (mike), Monday, 24 February 2003 08:10 (twenty-three years ago)

And Norah Jones really isn't that good.

― Lara (Lara), Monday, 24 February 2003 08:14 (twenty-three years ago)

And has possibly the most boring name in the music industry.

― Lara (Lara), Monday, 24 February 2003 08:14 (twenty-three years ago)

why do people care at all about the grammys?

― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 24 February 2003 08:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Norah Batty, on the other hand.....

― MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 24 February 2003 09:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Great line in woolly hats and the most shapely ankles on television.

― Lara (Lara), Monday, 24 February 2003 09:17 (twenty-three years ago)

SHE'S NOT THAT BAD EITHER SO WOULD EVERYBODY PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT HER??

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 24 February 2003 09:21 (twenty-three years ago)

She is pretty bad, though?

― Lara (Lara), Monday, 24 February 2003 09:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Not so much bad as...neutral? She's like the color beige.

― Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 24 February 2003 09:26 (twenty-three years ago)

It's all ankles with you, Byrne.

― Mark C (Mark C), Monday, 24 February 2003 09:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, they do sit just above the *shoes*.

― Lara (Lara), Monday, 24 February 2003 09:29 (twenty-three years ago)

LEAVE IT TO ILM TO TAKE A PERFECTLY OKAY AND SEMI-IGNORABLE ARTIST AND MAKE ME DESPISE HER FOR MERELY EXISTING AND GIVING YOU LOT SOMETHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT CEASELESSLY!!

I mean, gawd.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 24 February 2003 09:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Jody our standards are just far, far too high.

― Lara (Lara), Monday, 24 February 2003 09:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Right.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 24 February 2003 09:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Is Jody drunk?

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 24 February 2003 09:36 (twenty-three years ago)

I wish I was. 0936 is far too early to be sober.

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 24 February 2003 09:36 (twenty-three years ago)

High on life, baby.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 24 February 2003 09:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Er. Norah Jones **is** rubbish. Do you like her? She's shit. Vanessa Carlton could beat her in a fight any day.

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Starry is right. Mostly. I really don't think she should have introduced Vanessa Carlton into proceedings.

― Lara (Lara), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:12 (twenty-three years ago)

SHE IS DULL. FUCK THE POP SHIT, ITS THE SIMPLE FACT THAT SHE IS DULL, ENDLESSLY DULL, BANAL AND DULL.

dull as dishwater
dull as vaginal sex with yr wife of 50 yrs.
dull as the art in hotels.
dull as red desert.

dull is unforgiveable.

― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:18 (twenty-three years ago)

''unforgiveable''?!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:19 (twenty-three years ago)

She's almost as bad as Coldplay.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:21 (twenty-three years ago)

did you see the grammies, it was whitebread snoozefest.

― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Vanessa Carlton = the hip neu face of piano led dancehall!

Seriously! I have a whole theory on this. It mostly involves me going "biddly biddly bong DO YOU SEE" but it does not work on the webternet, only in a pub.

Good old Coldplay.

I have no idea what a Norah Jones song sounds like but I know it's rubbish bcz I heard it once and have forgotten it. Then again, these American women are all the same to me unless they are riding pianners through the streets of new york hooray for Vanessa Carlton!

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:24 (twenty-three years ago)

I am mostly annoyed with Norah Jones cos she won a Brit Award despite no-one in Britain having ever heard of her. Neither did she even turn up! I want Miss Dynamite to give her a "wedgie".

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:26 (twenty-three years ago)

What is the sound of one knee jerking?

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:27 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't know, what is a "wedgie"?

(NB I actually know this)

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:29 (twenty-three years ago)

did i mention she was boring ?

― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:30 (twenty-three years ago)

JBR I think it sounds like this!!!

"GgccccchURK!"

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:30 (twenty-three years ago)

did i mention this thread is boring?

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:31 (twenty-three years ago)

It's the most interesting thread this morning, apart from the eBay one. Did you see Ed is selling a crip?!!

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:34 (twenty-three years ago)

I need the money.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:35 (twenty-three years ago)

with or w/o his crutches?

― MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I hope you have a lot of bubble wrap bcz the buyer will be really angry if a leg has dropped off in transit!

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Replace "Norah Jones" with "Vanessa Carlton" in all posts above save Jody's, add screams of terror, and we'll have come some way toward correcting the imbalance propogated by the strangely vitriolic ILM Norah-hatas.

― Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:38 (twenty-three years ago)

this thread is not that good

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:39 (twenty-three years ago)

redunant this-thread-is- jokes are not that--

ow.

― Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Jody doesn't like us hatas. Actually I am not a Norah hata, just a dislikah. I am currently a hata of quiche, my job and CMC! Each time I see it I am reminded of CNC music factory and that grebt episode of Blossom where CNC Music Factory taught Blossom and Six how to dance, but alas it is only a pisspoor attempt at dance music featuring an ex-opera singer in a silly hat. Doh!

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh - I forgot about ILM. (hey I sense a tribute track for the ILx comp!)

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:42 (twenty-three years ago)

I think Amateurist just turned on the radio and heard Alicia Keyes.

― Lara (Lara), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Who the hell is Norah Jones? (ok, don't answer that seriously) Anthony, what do you think of Diana Krall?

― Kim (Kim), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:43 (twenty-three years ago)

I can't wait for the new Strokes album. Because the Norah-hate just isn't deafening enough.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Ugumph! Alicia Keys! Shhh Lara else she will be after us with her gansta luvvahs!

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:45 (twenty-three years ago)

re: Norah Jones
http://www.wildcountrymaple.com/tap.jpg

id tap it!

― chaki (chaki), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Ok then Jody, tell us why she is good!

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:46 (twenty-three years ago)

I did, on like three other I-hate-Norah threads.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Are they on ILM? I just keep on forgetting about ILM. This is my first Norah-dislike thread. I think I am doing quite well for my first outing...

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 24 February 2003 10:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Skipping 151 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

The thought of reading 200 posts about Norah fills me with dread.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 11:28 (twenty-three years ago)

I think Suzy touches on an interesting question. Would Norah Jones have sold so much if she had been called Norah Shankar?

(Pointlkess question we already know the answer to - would she sell any reckids if she didn't look like Katie Holmes).

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 11:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I think the thing that makes jazz (polyrythmns, improv etc. are important too) is that it has, to my mind, to be revolutionary in its own context. Jazz ceases to be jazz when it ceases to be cutting edge it just drops into that easy listening loungecore drivel.

Look at all of the greats of jazz than they were all revolutionaries in there own times and in their own contexts and I'm sorry but Norah Jones just isn't.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 11:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Why are people so anti-easy-listening?! Is listening to music supposed to hard and painful?! Sounds like Calvinism to me!

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 11:48 (twenty-three years ago)

She doesn't look like Katie Holmes! Well, not enough for my liking anyway. She's trying to get the whole Dawsons thing but manages to be *too* bland - and that's an achievement! I take it all back, well done Norah Jones marketing team!

― Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 11:49 (twenty-three years ago)

I prefer my music to be like Calvinball.

― Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 11:50 (twenty-three years ago)

There is more truth in Calvin & Hobbes than in the entire works of Dickens.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 11:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Like you've read the entire works of Dickens.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 11:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Course not! But I have read the entire works of Calvin & Hobbes!

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 11:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Music does have to be hard and painful i'd just rather it wasn't insipid and banal.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 12:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Ed means 'doesn't', surely? *cracks whip* Back to work with you, sonny.

Would Norah Jones have sold so much if she had been called Norah Shankar?

Probably not, and it isn't her name anyway. My best guess is that she would be 'critically acclaimed' like her half-sis. Anoushka Shankar gets YARDS of press but has definitely followed Daddy into the same sort of music he makes.

What I objected to more than anything was the whole fait accompli vibe around NJ and the bit where everyone was told NOT to mention whose dad she was. I don't like Light Entertainment in all its Satanic forms; why should this example be any different?

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 12:10 (twenty-three years ago)

''Why are people so anti-easy-listening?! Is listening to music supposed to hard and painful?! Sounds like Calvinism to me!''

who's saying jazz is 'hard and painful'? don't knoiw what calvinism is so i can't reply to that point.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 12:51 (twenty-three years ago)

calvinism = i am the elect and you soppy lot are the preterite

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 13:18 (twenty-three years ago)

I am the peterite.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 13:32 (twenty-three years ago)

pete- stop making up words i can't understand!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 13:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Please accept my apopologies.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 13:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Why has no-one hypothesised so far that NJ is Marc Cohn after a sex-change op and a shave? Well?

― SittingPretty (sittingpretty), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 13:50 (twenty-three years ago)

EWWWWWWWWWWWW...... So Ravi Shankar is currently 82 years old and Norah Jones is 23, which means that he was 59 when she was born. Yuck!

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 13:59 (twenty-three years ago)

rener to thread!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 14:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Marc Cohn wrote his own material.

― TMFTML (TMFTML), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 14:06 (twenty-three years ago)

so Aaron, is your point that ppl in their 50s should not have sex? or that they shouldn't have having kids?

― H (Heruy), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 14:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Maybe he stopped after the op/shave double header.

― SittingPretty (sittingpretty), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 14:12 (twenty-three years ago)

My best friend from high school was the product of English mad scientist's third marriage and was born when her dad was 60 and her mum was late 20s, and I think her dad was far less yogatastic than our pal Ravi.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 14:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Alright, fair enough... I was just trying to dish more dirt on poor Norah, but I guess if Ravi could still "produce" at that age than more power to him.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 14:21 (twenty-three years ago)

This guy kicks Ravi's arse.

Herbs are secret of 120-year old tribal king's virility

A tribal chief in southern India believed to be more than 120 years old says he has fathered far too many children to remember all of them.

The Hindustan Times reports Mudda Moopan, the king of the primitive Karumba tribe in Kerala, can only remember the names of 16 of his 23 wives.

His latest wife is in her early thirties and his youngest child is 11 years old.

Locals believe him to be among the oldest men in the world. Last year a group of students from Kochhi University collected a sample of Moopan's hair to work out his age and discovered that he had passed a century long ago.

The old man says the secret of his longevity and virility lies in a paste made of 10 rare medicinal herbs that he takes three times a day, but he is unwilling to reveal what they are.

He said: "Once an English woman came and stayed with me for days together. She was spying on my treatment methods. One morning she disappeared. I don't trust any of them now."

Moopan, considered an authority on tribal medicine, is much sought after by researchers. It is being reported the Karumba chieftain once tamed a violent elephant with a medicinal plant.

An unnamed agricultural scientist at the Thrissur Agricultural University said: "He can identify more than 1,000 rare medicinal plants. He is a living legend - a treasure trove."

Story filed: 08:58 Monday 25th November 2002

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 14:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Youngest child - 11 years old therefore still getting it at the ripe old age of 109.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 14:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Dan P I understand your standards-raising feelings but the Pro Tools revolution has democratised singing and yr ideals of live performance and hitting pitch are as much use these days as the horse-drawn carriage, i.e. a pretty novelty for heritage tourists and not much else!

You understand that I must smite you now, right?

SMITESMITESMITESMITESMITESMITESMITESMITESMITESMITESMITESMITESMITESMITE

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 14:25 (twenty-three years ago)

These ProTools vocal effects are going to be the cheesy wahwah guitars of the Aughts, mark my words.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 14:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Ha ha Perry, now you know how we Mathmeticians felt when they invented the calculator.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 14:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, but how do you feel about the invention of spell-check, Mr Mathematician? ;)

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 14:31 (twenty-three years ago)

i like Anoushka Shankar, think she has talent- do i like her b/c she is "exotic" and hip- i mean is it the piano thats getting to me ?

― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 14:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Anoushka Shankar seems okay to me too. She went and got the shit-hard tabla/sitar/please sign rest of life away for these classes-type Classical training.

Also, this is the part of the thread where I feel duty-bound to say most famous people's kids are okay. It's the ones who hate their folks while spending all their money that I can't abide.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 15:02 (twenty-three years ago)

I dont have a problem with famos peoples kids, just spelling antypin.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 15:06 (twenty-three years ago)

is it harder to learn piano then sitar or tablas he says ignoratly and then realises he cannot spell ignorant.

― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 15:07 (twenty-three years ago)

I can spell brilliantly in two forms of English but cannot exactly do Calculus.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 15:10 (twenty-three years ago)

SMITESMITESMITESMITESMITESMITESMITESMITESMITESMITESMITESMITESMITESMITE

Can we put some flange on that? And feed it through a harmonizer, I'm getting some nasty flats.

― Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 15:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Look out! Mites!

― Nick A. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 15:42 (twenty-three years ago)

I wish to complain about the misleading title of this thread. "Not that good" implies that there is some residual good in the work of N Jones. Were it to have been retitled "Norah Jones is a vomit-inducing, mock-sincere product of a discourse; her voice is not her own (do not read if you like Norah Jones)" posters so inclined could have indulged freely in wanton yet witty abuse as per the Massive Attack thread.

― Robbie Turner, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 15:44 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't think she's mock-sincere, any more than someone can be a mock-lesbian. Her sincerity feels too uncomplicated; she lacks an "edge". I'm not sure where she could go about finding one, but I've never heard her on the radio nor anywhere else so I'm not really that concerned one way or another.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 15:52 (twenty-three years ago)

But I think JtN has a good point: I mean look at all the ambient crap people listen to!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 15:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Hey, you're mean.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Ambient crap = shitthat sticks to the back of your toilet bowl that doesn't get flushed so you just ignore.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:05 (twenty-three years ago)

What is a shitt hat (and can we... never mind)?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:07 (twenty-three years ago)

"Do you honestly think the A&R at her company DID NOT know who Bill Frisell is? Please."

Why would I think they would not know who he is? I never said she snuck those musicians by the label...she was only able to GET those musicians because they're on/work with Blue Note! And it's not like the millions of people buying her album know who Brian Blade is, it's just nice that he hopefully got to make some money being a part of a successful thing that ended up saving a cool and historical label from going under.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:28 (twenty-three years ago)

I can do calculus but can't spell in any language especially not the 3 I'm meant to know.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Eerie that as I'm reading the new posts, "Don't Know Why" has just begun on the radio...

― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:17 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought the Ravi Shankar's daughter thing mentioned upthread was a joke and that she was really Tom Jones's daughter until it got mentioned 3 or 4 times and I went and looked it up.

― Stuart (Stuart), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Tom I actually think you'd like Norah Jones quite a bit.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:38 (twenty-three years ago)

I think Tom would HATE Norah Jones!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:57 (twenty-three years ago)

I wonder if Norah likes it missionary style?

― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 19:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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