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Recommend me something (music, movie, art, food, book, geographical location, brand of embalming fluid, etc) that you really like but not too many people know about

oops (Oops), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Mennonite farmer's sossidge.

Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:24 (twenty-three years ago)

The films of Joao Botelho.

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 24 February 2003 21:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Keep yer cockfarmer jokes to yerself!

Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:25 (twenty-three years ago)

One of my three favourite living painters is the wonderful Fiona Rae. Not at all well known.

Book: I've not seen anyone mention Alice Hoffman, and Seventh Heaven is among my five favourite novels.

I'm not sure how obscure this place is, but it's certainly overshadowed by being within a couple of minutes of the Topkapi palace and museum, the Blue Mosque, Hagia Sophia and the Istanbul Museum: the ancient cistern in Istanbul, dimly lit, with boards making a path above shallow water, with hundreds of ancient Roman columns. Wonderful.

Music: Willie Tee's Walking Up A One-Way Street is a supremely lovely New Orleans soul number, with the biggest gulf between despairing lyrics and the perkiest, happiest tune imaginable.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:26 (twenty-three years ago)

The golden suit of Mongol Armour in the National Museum Almaty Kazakhstan.

Ed (dali), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:28 (twenty-three years ago)

The little case of inro (little lacquered boxes, mostly for medicines) outside the topmost gallery at the back of the British Museum may be my favourite display in any UK museum I've seen. There's a good case of Chinese snuff bottles a couple of floors down from that too.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Stevie Ray’s in Downtown Louisville. Semi-seedy blues club in not-yet-gentrified area. Cheap booze, loud blues semi-open stage.

No One (SiggyBaby), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:37 (twenty-three years ago)

New Mexico, USA

Some of the best and most varied scenery in US and, possibly, the world. Mountains, plains, deserts, forests, a few nice lakes, good weather, good food, lots of history, oldest continious settlement in new world. Seems to get overshadowed by Arizona, Colorado, and California.

oops (Oops), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:42 (twenty-three years ago)

"The Hindu Gods (Of Love)" - Lipstick Killers

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:44 (twenty-three years ago)

oshinko (picked daikon radish) wrapped in shisho leaves (japanese mint) = it tastes like hot tamales (the candy).

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:44 (twenty-three years ago)

yes it's a real chicken... of course they'll let you in! yeah. yeah. i dunno, you get a free bag of fortune cookies or something. *inaudible*

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:48 (twenty-three years ago)

The short stories of Robert Aikman.

fletrejet, Monday, 24 February 2003 21:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Arancina- a beautiful kind of Sicilian riceball, with a bolognese and pea centre, deep fried, beautiful and readily available in Southern Italy, impossible to find out of it. Goes great with Peroni.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:51 (twenty-three years ago)

(not well known in US) Scotch Eggs— hard boiled eggs wrapped in sausage, rolled in oats and deep-fried.

No One (SiggyBaby), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:54 (twenty-three years ago)

"The Sound Made Visable By The Westbury Squares"-The Westbury Squares (CD)

Charles McCain, Monday, 24 February 2003 22:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Burnt Batch--The Produce Aisle LP

West Coast indie rap shit done right--the guy (Pismo) makes all the beats and raps

oops (Oops), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:04 (twenty-three years ago)

is osamu dazai's "less than human" very obscure? i think it's 1 of the best things i've read, not many people seem to know anything about him or anything (does anyone know any other bks by him btw?) the dunedin library has nothing)

duane, Monday, 24 February 2003 22:09 (twenty-three years ago)

la monte young - the black album (he even covers "the unforgiven")

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:16 (twenty-three years ago)

music:

canned hamm (karazma karaoke)
crack: we are rock (noise pixel crush)
casiotone for the painfully alone (my hero... sigh)
electric turn to me (ex-laddio bollocko)
DACM: showroom dummies (pita - mego)
m. ward (just got signed to merge and matador europe so not obscure for much longer)
thanksgiving (band from portland led by 16 year old singer... early palace brothers meets swell maps)

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:18 (twenty-three years ago)

really good obscure synth pop:
The Twins

A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:21 (twenty-three years ago)

good lord i cant even imagine what that last one sounds like, esp because of the description

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:21 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd recommend lots of Spanish pop and German stuff on Monika records, but it probably ain't that obscure!

anyway:
Vacaciones - Sonrier
Juniper Moon - El Resto De Mi Vida
Niza - Canciones De Temporada

Monika: http://www.m-enterprise.de/monika/index.html

Quarks, Komeit and Barbara Morgenstern are all great.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Little Milton's blues "Walking the Back Streets and Crying"

Prince's incredibly hot chicken, in north Nashville, Tenn. Burned my mouth and it didn't heal until I got to the Michigan state line.


(Music: Willie Tee's Walking Up A One-Way Street is a supremely lovely New Orleans soul number)--you are right, Martin Skidmore, that is a great number, I have this on a mono LP called "Beach Beat" along w/Tee's "Thank You John" and my favorite song of all time, Stick McGhee's 1949 version of "Drinkin' Wine, Spo-Dee-O-Dee." Which everyone should know too.

frank p. jones (frank p. jones), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:43 (twenty-three years ago)

luv [sic]'s akimbo pop gem "Stop Stop You Might Be Sexy"

Chris P (Chris P), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:44 (twenty-three years ago)

THANKSGIVING CD RELEASE, SEAN CROGHAN, GLACIER PARK, A JOHN HENRY MEMORIAL
(Meow Meow) This is the CD release party for Thanksgiving, band of 16-year-old local music/art wunderkind Adrian Orange (whose first show was rumored to have been at the tender age of 11). The CD in question, called We Could Be Each Other's Evidence, is an emotional one, in which the vocals are sweet and urgent, and the guitars correspond appropriately.

ATARI 2600 TOURNAMENT NIGHT STARRING ROCK AND ROLL ADVENTURE KIDS, THE NEW CARISSA, ADRIAN ORANGE

(Meow Meow) Adrian Orange (sometimes known as I Am Not a Human) is our resident Ben Lee character--a charming 15-year-old painting, singing boy genius--only, he's not annoying, and he'll still be talented after he grows up. He's also Portland's youngest scenester, appearing at every hip all-ages show he can, and always looking super in floppy hair, anorak, and oxfords. His songs are dreamy and scratchy-voiced acoustic gems. Relive your teen years and challenge him to Pong--he's got the advantage of fresh hand-eye coordination, but you actually remember when it first came out, you old hag. (It may end up a draw.) JS

SAUVIE ISLAND MOON ROCKET FACTORY CD RELEASE, THANKSGIVING

(Meow Meow) This is the celebration of the prolific Sauvie Island's first CD, which is actually an ambitious 3-CD box set (and the third release from Red76 Records). Also, it's the Meow Meow debut of Adrian Orange's new band, Thanksgiving. As one (unsigned) piece of hate mail so passionately reminds me: [paraphrased gist of letter] "Adrian Orange is not a hipster, but a very nice, quirky, and intelligent whole person who sometimes uses lots of distortion and electronics in his performances--and also, you fucking suck." Hee! However, when I've seen him play (unplugged, sans electronics), his voice scratches like a skipping Victrola, and his discordant acoustic guitar channels unmistakable angst with admirable honesty. Pretty awesome from this 14-year-old. JULIANNE SHEPHERD See CD Review pg 13

PROJECT PERFECT CD RELEASE, THANKSGIVING, BERING SEA

(Blackbird) Red 76 "Collective" mogul Sam Gould has recently turned his search-and-destroy, art gestapo tactics towards indie label territory. The performers tonight are all representatives of the new label's eclectic approach, but the spotlight is on Project Perfect, who are celebrating the release of their debut CD. PP's electronics are more like displaced musique concrete than bedroom-ridden IDM. The local duo arms itself with transistor radios and a handful of more sophisticated toys, twisting AM static into confetti rhythms and grainy, tonal explorations. The Bering Sea's slumbering, melancholic throb easily puts them at the top of the heap of local "space rock" groups (largely because their avoidance of the British shoegazer cliches so tied in with the genre). Rounding out the evening significantly is Thanskgiving, the hard-hitting rock trio led by avant-folk boy genius Adrian Orange. Those of you complaining about the lack of anything interesting happening in Portland should take this opportunity to come down to the Blackbird tonight to prove yourself wrong. SIMON GASKEN

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:45 (twenty-three years ago)

that was for jess

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Harley Gaber, The Winds Rise in the North - it could be argued that with all the reissues/revaluations, Tony Conrad is no longer "obscure," no longer a footnote in some slick-looking Phaidon book on "Minimalists" (actually he was merely a footnote in that crappy book, but that's another point). I've never heard/seen anyone talk about Gaber's The Winds Rise in the North, an excellent double LP of noisy minimal (or is that minimalist?) violin action - except for my friends Dante and Josh, and Bob Fay (whom I bought my copy from).

hstencil, Monday, 24 February 2003 22:47 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm not sure if he's obscure or not, but my favorite painter at the moment is David Reed. There's a monograph published in Germany called "You Look Good in Blue" which is so good, I might have to eat it.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Film: The Uninvited, starring Ray Milland

Book: Anything by James Branch Cabell that's not Jurgen (that's good too of course)

Music: Closedown's Nearfield, to which I listen this very second.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:50 (twenty-three years ago)

hstencil:
bob fay's song "mindmild" is not as obscure as harey gaber but it is a great song nonetheless.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:52 (twenty-three years ago)

thanks gygax! I am familiar with said song.

hstencil, Monday, 24 February 2003 22:55 (twenty-three years ago)

i know that you are! but it was a recommendation to those who are not.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:56 (twenty-three years ago)

a said song says so much

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:59 (twenty-three years ago)

the film Roadkill (not the recent Hollywood one, the low budget black and white one with Joey Ramone in it)

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 24 February 2003 23:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Aoife Ni Fhearragh, great Gaelic singer.

Leee (Leee), Monday, 24 February 2003 23:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Gygax, is Adrian Thanksgiving really 16? Jesus.

He's fanstic though, or at least live -- I've never heard the recorded stuff.

Chris P (Chris P), Monday, 24 February 2003 23:36 (twenty-three years ago)

I mean, he's kinda tall. I thought maybe he was 18ish.

Chris P (Chris P), Monday, 24 February 2003 23:40 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah he's 6'6"! plus he's really nice and a total sweetheart. he toured california with my friend's band last summer (vacation) and adrian's dad had to swear that those guys would take care of him.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 24 February 2003 23:44 (twenty-three years ago)

He's not 6'6". I am 6'3" and I don't remember him as being taller than me (and I usually notice that).

He opened for Sl**ter-K*nney recently; [prudently deleted].

Chris P (Chris P), Monday, 24 February 2003 23:51 (twenty-three years ago)

he's still growing fool!

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 00:24 (twenty-three years ago)

When did you see him? He was 6'3"-ish as of a few months ago...

I mean, damn, maybe he's grown a few inches in the last few months, but... if so, shee-it. ;-)

Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 00:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Things I assume to be obscure often aren't but I'll try a couple:

Book: the writer Barry Hughart - "Bridge of Birds" is a marvellous romp, a cross between the "Monkey" legend and a sweeping chinese epic, sort of Pratchett meets Zen sages. Or something.
Film: Suburbia. Not the Richard Linklater one, the Penelope Spheris one (it was her first film), noteable becuase no one in it is an actor, and it shows; it is a real period piece of LA 80s punk, and Flea from RHCP is in it, and he cant act for toffee :D

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 00:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Book: American Artists at the French Salonsby Lois Marie Fink. There was a school of artists from America after the Civil War who painted in the French academic tradition and exhibited their works at the French Salon just when French artists were starting to break away from the academic tradition (Manet at the Salon des Refusees, etc.). In particular I had wanted to recommend a painter who pointed these beautiful academic portraits of Native Americans but I do not own this book so I will just recomend the book.

Movie: Sweet Movie by Dusan Makavejev. I will not attempt to describe it. It is extremely f-ed up. You just have to see it.

Record: The Wanderer (1988) by Kevin Rowlands of Dexy's Midnight Runners. It is a straightfaced country album and I love it. Not to be confused with My Beuty. Good luck finding it. If you find it let me know. I have been looking to replace mine for a while.

Not to start a debate over obscurantism. If anyone has knowledge of any of these I'd love to discuss!

felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 02:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Dom, you should come to Melbourne. No problems getting arancini here.

Amarga (Amarga), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 02:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Felicity, what do you think of Sweet Movie? Without getting into the content, do you think it is successful in whatever it tries to accomplish? Worth watching? I've never seen it but would like to.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 03:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Books:
Fleur Jaeggy, Sweet Days of Discipline and Last Vanities
Zsuzsi Gartner, All the Anxious Girls on Earth
(relatively obscure, I guess) Kobo Abe, The Woman in the Dunes

Prude, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 03:29 (twenty-three years ago)

It really shocked me but in a good way. I did not understand it whatsoever but I loved it. I would like to see it again. Yes, you should see it and tell me what you think!

In less obscure news can it really be true that the WHite $ox/Shlubs series is sold out? I hop ewe can scalp some seat stogether for our 2nd City FAP.

felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 03:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, gee, I forgot about that ... but yeah, I mean, those things always sell out right away. Best bet is always scalpers (and they will be available).

Well that's cool if you made it through the movie unscarred. I've heard about it and wanted to see it, but I didn't want to bother if it was just pointless shock-fest.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 04:10 (twenty-three years ago)

The prose (essays mostly) of Merrill Gillfillan--a flock of obscure chapbooks from obscure presses. Intense prose that sounds like it was subjected to very rough weather and carved into shape by it. Locations Western & Midwestern US. His poetry's good, too.

L'Amour fou, 1968 movie by Jacques Rivette. She goes mad, he decides he has no choice but to go mad, too. Entwined around a production of Racine's Phedre, which sounds like it might be precious, but it ain't. In a similar vein: Jean Eustache's The Mother and the Whore (La Maman et la putain).

Arizona Jim, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 05:16 (twenty-three years ago)

sorry it's called "no longer human" not "less than human"

duane (24 hour troubleshooter), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 05:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Felicity if I start a Makavejev thread will you contribute?

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 05:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Duane, Dazai has another novel available in English which he wrote before No Longer Human: it is Setting Sun (Shayo). He also has a collection of short stories available in English.

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 10:09 (twenty-three years ago)

It has been a long time since I saw Sweet Movie but I will try. The new googlers will be worth it.

felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 12:40 (twenty-three years ago)

A PC Engine game called "Shufflepuck Cafe". It's air hockey at an extremely fast speed, and you get to play one of five scary looking aliens.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 12:49 (twenty-three years ago)

There was a MAcx version of that and it was truly great.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 12:51 (twenty-three years ago)

"These Guys Are All Dead" EP by Landspeed Loungers.

MarkH (MarkH), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 15:53 (twenty-three years ago)

The film Fat City, directed by John Huston and starring Stacy Keach when he was an up-and-comer, instead of a has-been.

Aimless, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:16 (twenty-three years ago)

I read a book called "The World Is Made Of Glass" once, by Morris West. I really liked it. West seems to be some kind of hack writer but this book was very interesting. It has a split narrative, half of it told in the first person by Carl Gustav Jung, the other by some probably fictional European aristocrat. It's set just before the first world war and follows the two characters up until the meet at the end. It's all about psychoanalysis and stuff, and also Jung's break with Freud.

I don't think I've ever met anyone who has even heard of this book.

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:21 (twenty-three years ago)

The Red and the White, a film by Miklos Jansco.

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Mugwort mochi.

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:54 (twenty-three years ago)

i played shufflepuck cafe on an apple mac and you got to play against vampires!

minna (minna), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:12 (twenty-three years ago)

I once played Shufflepuck Cafe in my aunt and uncle's kitchen while they were talking with their rabbi. The computer made a very loud noise when I won and my aunt glared at me. Later she yelled at me because I embarrassed them in front of the rabbi.

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:28 (twenty-three years ago)

The Brand Library of Music and Art in Burbank, CA.

Also, the documentary American Fabulous made by Reno Dakota. He filmed this crazy, too-smart-for-his-own-good, southern junkie scenemaker queen being driven around his hometown in some big old car telling the most incredible stories. He's dying and he knows it, so it's very poignant, too. If you were touched by that American Family followup documentary that focused on the last days of Lance Loud--well, this has a similar feel.

Arthur (Arthur), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Blind Huber - poems by Nick Flynn (It is about bees!)

bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:42 (twenty-three years ago)

The golden suit of Mongol Armour in the National Museum Almaty Kazakhstan

ed, the pieces in the museum are all reproductions, with the originals in the presidential palace somewhere.

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 08:51 (twenty-three years ago)


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