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Destroy the legion of idiot unfunny white men: Rick Reilly, Steve Rushin.

Search: SL Price's article about last year's US Open, about Sampras and Seles's last hoorahs, which was surprisingly amazong writong.

Notwithstanding the occasional decent article, DUD.

Leee (Leee), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 00:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Frank Deford should be severely beaten and then drowned

James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 00:51 (twenty-three years ago)

serial sportscaster-killers to thread, you've found your alibi!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 01:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh total dud. Makes sports seem uncool, which to my sports-loving eye is no mean trick. The swimsuit issue is like the Dud-God to Whom all other duds pray for inspiration.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 01:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Makes sports seem uncool

I seem to remember that the Beasties were the first public figures of note I knew of to trash it. Then it all kept rolling in.

My dad's been a subscriber since forever, so I grew up used to that, Newsweek and TV Guide. Ever since then it's been a constant letting go. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 01:35 (twenty-three years ago)

"Inside Baseball" used to be good

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 04:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Rushin and Reilly aren't nearly as bad as that new guy whose name I can't remember, the one whose thing runs next to the brief interview-sidebar. God, I can't stand him.

Search SI's occasional investigative journalism: the steroids article, and the one on Salt Lake City's use of Olympics money. Search the baseball coverage (the reason I subscribe), which is still pretty damn good, for my money.

They could use some better fluff writing along the lines of ESPN's various shows. Barring that, rerunning classic interviews could be cool (pretty much anything Bill Lee ever said to any reporter is entertaining enough to read, even if you have no idea who he is.)

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 04:41 (twenty-three years ago)

The Spaceman?

You're OTM about the investigative articles, though.

If SI signs on Skip fecking Bayliss, then they'll have all NINE CIRCLES OF SPORTS HELL.

Leee (Leee), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 04:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Let me see if I have an issue laying around.

Bill Scheft, that's the guy. Writes his columns like a bad (and badly done) stereotype of Borscht Belt stand-up.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 04:46 (twenty-three years ago)

SI photography is classic. It is excellent photography, not just excellent sports photography.

Search also the Bud Selig article from last year.

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 04:48 (twenty-three years ago)

My copy of the Swimsuit Issue arrived in the mail while I was outside waiting for my girlfriend to get there so I could let her in the gate. Her copy of Maxim had been in the mail when she left, so she brought it with her. I looked down at the SI SI in my hand, the Maxim in hers, and just thought ... why do they still bother?

(Reilly's column that issue was even on the increasing pointlessness of the SI SI, in a way.)

Oh, yeah, the photography: in a slow sports-news week, those photos at the beginning are often the best part (some athlete you've never heard of in a sport you have no interest in can still make for a great photo; less often makes for a great article.)

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 04:49 (twenty-three years ago)

I favor ESPN: The Magazine, having sent pictures to them when I used to work for the NHL. They have an amazing photo editor and they take-no-shit. Tho the Photo Editor for Si (or at least she used to be) is one of the coolest people I'd ever met.

I thank Si for giving us Heidi Klum... that's about it.

jm (jtm), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 05:08 (twenty-three years ago)

twenty years pass...

https://frontofficesports.com/sports-illustrateds-publisher-lays-off-entire-staff-future-unclear/

To the degree that it was a steady presence in my life decades ago--from '74 (still have their "715!" issue, one of my first as a subscriber) till the end of the decade, and then again for a time in the '80s--this reaches me much more than the other related story this week. But I'm being hypocritical. I haven't even looked at the online version for a decade, when I used to check in on the guy who did their monthly MVP/Cy Young rundowns, and I never considered for a second paying money for an online subscription when that was inaugurated.

clemenza, Friday, 19 January 2024 18:53 (two years ago)

The SI vault has been such a valuable online source for some great baseball longreads for me in the past couple of years. This is appalling.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 19 January 2024 18:56 (two years ago)

A Sports Illustrated cover was, for decades, the number one starmaking vehicle in sports. It was what Carson was for a comedian or SNL was for a band. *Sports* is worse off without those things. That things got this bad this quickly is unfathomable and totally avoidable.

— Kevin Clark (@bykevinclark) January 19, 2024

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 19 January 2024 18:57 (two years ago)

Something you have to pay for, I assume? I guess the plug will be pulled on that too. The writing though the '70s there--and, primarily because of SI, I read about most everything in the magazine then; not just baseball but the other three major North American leagues, college basketball and football, golf, tennis, even horse racing--was of a very high quality, and they never dodged controversy.

clemenza, Friday, 19 January 2024 19:00 (two years ago)

SI became trash when they got away from long form articles that explored the kinds of stories that couldn't be done in the sport section of newspapers or television news programs, and redesigned to look as much as possible like a fugly early 2000s website of Ripley's Believe It or Not. Their archives from the 60s and 70s are pure gold. Their current incarnation deserves to die.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 19 January 2024 19:05 (two years ago)

No not at all. All free.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 19 January 2024 19:05 (two years ago)

Meanwhile the name is being used to hawk $250m hotels, coming soon to a college town near you:

https://bnnbreaking.com/sports/ann-arbor-set-to-discuss-proposed-sports-illustrated-resorts-hotel-development/

henry s, Friday, 19 January 2024 19:10 (two years ago)

I hope the archive stays up then--I've consulted their cover archive before...I think the magazine was still pretty solid (and still itself) through the '80s, and maybe into the '90s. But yes, the online version always struck me as a mess just in terms of how it was organized, and the couple of times I sought it out more recently, it was ugly.

I sold most of my subscriber issues at a family garage sale in the early '90s (major regret), but at least had the presence of mind to save all baseball covers, plus a few others (Ali, Howe, Wilt, Nicklaus, a few more).

clemenza, Friday, 19 January 2024 19:11 (two years ago)

I read about most everything in the magazine then; not just baseball but the other three major North American leagues, college basketball and football, golf, tennis, even horse racing--was of a very high quality, and they never dodged controversy.

https://vault.si.com/.image/t_share/MTY5MDk4NTAwMzk3MDE2MzUz/42147---cover-thumbnail-image.jpg

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 19 January 2024 19:15 (two years ago)

I mentioned it in my thread on ilb but I honestly thought the story about Roy Halladay’s life and untimely death was just incredible. I never grew up reading SI, it has almost no cultural cachet at home and I’d never known about it besides the swimsuit issue. To read this, with all its pain and just…capturing of a life, how that life came to be and existed and ceased …was breathtaking.

Outside of Bright House Field, Halladay coached his teenage sons, Braden and Ryan. He echoed his father’s insistence on persistence, but he did not push them quite so hard. Big Roy mentioned that Little Roy had been throwing 90 m.p.h. at 17, but Braden at the same age struggled to hit 80. Little Roy didn’t want to hear it. He was a father, too, and he would teach his boys his way.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 19 January 2024 19:16 (two years ago)

(xpost) Bridge is blood sport--no one gets out alive...The pre-Ali version was probably a little staid (I have a few issues a friend gave me). Had something more like this in mind:

https://i.postimg.cc/76pFwTW0/joe.jpg

clemenza, Friday, 19 January 2024 19:25 (two years ago)

https://i.postimg.cc/76pFwTW0/joe.jpg

clemenza, Friday, 19 January 2024 19:26 (two years ago)

"The Mad World of Bridge" headline kills me.

Other Exposé Pitches:

"The Insane Underworld of Pinochle"

"My Uno Nightmare"

"Go Fish...or Go Nuts!"

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 19 January 2024 19:33 (two years ago)

Leroy Neiman’s artwork was as tied to Sports Illustrated like say Norman Rockwell was to the Saturday Evening Post.

There is a mountain of plastic football phones somewhere out in landfills from the tv ads for years.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Friday, 19 January 2024 20:37 (two years ago)

Strange that CNN chooses Cheryl Tiegs to interview tonight. I'm not saying she's not part of the magazine's history (three covers), but obviously a part not viewed very fondly today. Is that what the magazine's going to be remembered for above everything else? I hope not.

clemenza, Saturday, 20 January 2024 03:54 (two years ago)

Just checked, and Dan Jenkins, Frank Deford, Tex Maule, Mark Kram, and Ron Fimrite are all dead. Tiegs just happened to be next on their list.

clemenza, Saturday, 20 January 2024 03:58 (two years ago)

i would assume that jordan is second in covers after ali? but if they'd interviewed him, he'd be all like 'i bought a pallet-full of that first cover then dumped them on the porch of the JV coach who slighted me'

i suppose getting an SI cover was a much bigger deal for the swimsuit models. bridge players aside, most other cover athletes were already well-known

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 January 2024 04:15 (two years ago)

Wikipedia's list stops at 2016 for some reason:

Michael Jordan - 50
Muhammad Ali - 40
LeBron James - 25
Tiger Woods - 24
Magic Johnson - 23
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 22
Tom Brady - 20

My guess would have been Tiger at #2.

clemenza, Saturday, 20 January 2024 04:33 (two years ago)

i honestly know no one who is/was now at SI apart from emma baccellieri, who is fantastic

i'm sure she will ultimately find a better place of employment, but that's not exactly the point

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 January 2024 05:00 (two years ago)

I went onto their site today--still operational--and Verducci has a HOF piece; don't know if he's actually staff, but obviously you know him.

https://www.si.com/mlb/2024/01/16/myths-baseball-hall-of-fame-voting

clemenza, Saturday, 20 January 2024 06:00 (two years ago)

one month passes...

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/18/media/sports-illustrated-new-publisher/index.html

I'm sure it won't be the same, but, as has been pointed out, it hasn't been the same for at least a couple of decades. Glad I didn't put much effort into getting hold of the last issue.

clemenza, Monday, 18 March 2024 14:53 (two years ago)


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