Chess - classic or dud?

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I think winning = classic & losing = dud

― man, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

I give good game even to good players, but I rarely win. Classic occasionally.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's classic but I hardly ever play it.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Haven't played it in years, still great. Proud moment of callow youth -- beating my dad at chess when I was...eight, I think.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

My brain and chess don't get along

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

i've never seen it but i own the soundtrack.

― di smith (lucylurex), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ned, he let you win.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

whoa Ned, weird thread connection, I used beating your dad at chess as a metaphor in a thread about your dad's overcoming the prostate thing!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't think I've ever beaten my dad at chess. He's a helluva crossword genius guy, too.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

(or is that what you meant by callow? Maybe I should reread that callow thread)

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

Cruelest game ever = chess as a drinking game. Lose a piece, take a shot. Best way to lose at chess very quickly. Otherwise classic.

― Bryan (Bryan), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

Snap with hstencil and Ned. Played for the first time in years a few months ago and won. I immediately started another game against the same bloke and got blown out of the water. The consensus: the fact that I was as rusty as hell made me unpredictable in the first game, but by the second he had 'worked me out' and was able to spot my basic tactical errors earlier and felt freer exploiting them.

My dad was a bit more cunning than Ned's. He made sure I didn't beat him at age eight by not teaching me until age 11. I think I was 16 when I beat him for the first time and we've only played together a few times since.

― Fred Nerk, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Utter classic; I play it pretty often, and put up a decent fight, although I haven't won a game in months. Once upon a time I was on the chess team at my middle school, and I had a retarded long undefeated streak between ages 11 and 13. I think adolescence fucked up my game, although I'm not sure how.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

I reached my peak weeks after learning the game. I had just turned 11, and a friend taught me to play - then immediately took me to this adult chess club that he was a member of. They were having a speed-chess tournament that day. I was drawn against the club captain, a regular county player, in the first round - and I beat him. I was school champion and stuff in the years after, but it was really all downhill from there. I've not played in years and years.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

I play now and again. I am hopeless at openings, but if I survive I'll usually win.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

Cruelest game ever = chess as a drinking game. Lose a piece, take a shot. Best way to lose at chess very quickly. Otherwise classic.

That would make a gambit all the more effective.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

The drunkest I ever got was playing that game (I was sucking right from the opening move and I ended up drinking most of a 26oz bottle of Southern Comfort). They almost called the police because they thought I was missing. I was actually in a bathroom in the Brandon University science building basement with my head in a sink. I don't think I've played chess since.

― Bryan (Bryan), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

To the scoffers above -- my dad admitted then and has said since that I beat him fair and square. Nyah. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think I'm going to take up full contact American football with my Dad this weekend! Bring it!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 23:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

Spencer is a MANLY man!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 March 2003 03:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

this one night, in Bangkok...

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 13 March 2003 03:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

The queens we use would not excite you Jim.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 13 March 2003 03:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

The ILX production of Chess...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 March 2003 03:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

I love chess and the idea of chess, but I suck. Actually I haven't played for about four years...I went to a chess club thing my freshman year of college, got beaten (twice) in a matter of minutes, realized I was out of my league and didn't want to put the time into memorizing real chess stuff.

A couple of people in my band are excellent chess players. On our last out of town gig they were telling me about the latest Kasparov/Deep Blue Jr. thing, that shit is fascinating.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 13 March 2003 04:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

I cannot get my head around chess whatsoever, I think chess is a guy thing.

Now Go, on the other hand, that I like. I wish I was a lot better at it, but it has an organic beauty that chess just doesn't. Less logic, more intutive. And it looks sexy and elegant.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 13 March 2003 04:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

classic: battle-chess for the PC.
dud: pepperidge farm chesspiece cookies. yuck

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 13 March 2003 04:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think chess is a guy thing

I can think of a few people who might have something to say about that one...

I love chess, and wish I had more talent for it; the taste of success I've had at a handful of tournaments is enough to make me want more, but alas, I'm not a visual thinker, so that limits me severely. Still, I'd like to get a master's rating someday; judging by the difference between my rating now, and the one I had when I started playing tournaments, I'm about two-thirds of the way there. I haven't played a tournament in several years, though, and I suspect the advent of Internet chess is hitting the world of OTB (over-the-board) tournaments pretty hard...

― Phil (phil), Thursday, 13 March 2003 05:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Cheap but sturdy wooden chess pieces = classic.
The game itself? Well have no mind for it and none of my friends enjoy it so = dud.

― Chris P (Chris P), Thursday, 13 March 2003 05:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

One of my better games of chess (I'm black):

1. e2-e4 e7-e5
2. g1-f3 g8-f6
3. f1-c4 d7-d5
4. e4xd5 f6xd5
5. f3xe5 d5-f4
6. o-o d8-g5
7. e5-g4 f8-d6
8. f1-e1+ c8-e6
9. c4xe6 f7xe6
10. d2-d3 g5-d5
11. g4-e3 d5-g5
12. g2-g3 o-o
13. e3-g2 f4-h3+
14. g1-f1 f8xf2++

― A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 13 March 2003 05:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Now Go, on the other hand, that I like. I wish I was a lot better at it, but it has an organic beauty that chess just doesn't. Less logic, more intutive. And it looks sexy and elegant. "

Go is very beautiful to play. Your mind is expanding two ways at once (defense/offense), yet the board and pieces form a minimalistic pattern and the clicking noises as you make a move are so peaceful.

― A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 13 March 2003 05:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

i can't say i know anything about go.
but as far as chess goes - classic
& when you lose - classic - because that's how you learn

― dyson (dyson), Thursday, 13 March 2003 06:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like chess but I am gawdawful at it. I have this mental deficiency where I can't plan more than one or two moves ahead so I can't really plan. I play with my girlfriend occasionally and she always always beats me. I should read some chess how-to books or something.

― Nick A. (Nick A.), Thursday, 13 March 2003 13:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

I have never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever won a game. Ever. Ronald Reagan could probably beat me if we played this afternoon.

― dave q, Thursday, 13 March 2003 13:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

you could beat george bush tho'.

classic. I've always meant to join the chess club at uni but ILX stops me.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 13 March 2003 13:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like chess. My dad taught me how to play when I was very young, but I'm not very good at it. My best chess playing memories are when I went to stay with my friend Tom in Granada in Spain. He was studying out there, but he'd finished his work for the year and most of his friends hadn't, so the two of us spent most of the days and early evenings sitting about in cafes, playing chess, drinking beer and eating tapas.

― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 13 March 2003 14:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

classic when someone shouts down a hall of residence corridor, "You left your pawn in my room last night!"

― MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 13 March 2003 15:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'll think about it and let you know in about thirty posts time.

― Matt (Matt), Thursday, 13 March 2003 16:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

I couldn't get my head round it -- admittedly this was 20 years ago -- so I give it a flippant, dismissive dud.

― ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Thursday, 13 March 2003 16:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

I have to actually admit that I don't know how to play chess. I don't even know what moves the pieces make :-/

― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 14 March 2003 03:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

classic w/o doubt. I suck at it but it's really fun to play if your opponent isn't one of those clock freaks from the park or something.

Searching for Bobby Fischer is one of my fave movies evah

― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 14 March 2003 05:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Bobby Fischer vs. the Rest of the World" by Brad Darrach is a hilarious (and sadly out-of-print) book about Fischer's antics en route to winning (and then throwing away) the world chess championship, whilst single-handedly jump-starting America's post-1972 chess craze. He was one of the stranger characters of the last century, no doubt.

― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 14 March 2003 05:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've read the piece that book started out as, an early '70s Playboy article that was reprinted in The Best Sports Writing of the Century anthology; it's grate

― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 14 March 2003 05:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Did anyone see that chess movie with John Turturro?

― phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 14 March 2003 05:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

no, what's it called?

― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 14 March 2003 05:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

"pawnography"

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 14 March 2003 05:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

I liked it as a kid and then neglected it, disliked it even, until I moved here in September. My housemate brought a chessboard. I started liking it again. I usually win against my housemates but have only managed to even tie my computer one time. However, I lost against my dad the last time I was in Ottawa. I can relate to the "can't get my head around it" sentiment because that's how I felt about it throughout high school, even through undergrad if I ever even thought about it then. Somehow it started making sense again.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 14 March 2003 07:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

THe chess movie with Turturro is The Luzhin Defense, which is an adaptation of the Nabokov book "The Defense." It's about a crazy chess genius.

― Nick A. (Nick A.), Friday, 14 March 2003 13:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

Chess in the context of giant pieces on a checkered surreal landscape is also classic.

Or just the giant pieces in general that they have someplaces in Europe. They are fun to play with.

Also in "Alice Through the Looking Glass"

And also all the many different kinds of chess sets like civil war pieces or other themed sets are classic:

http://www.war-art.com/images/f602.jpg

http://www.sapart.freeserve.co.uk/aa.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/dovshuk/jjppga/krig11.jpg

http://chess.com.ru/img/opposition-13.jpg

― A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 14 March 2003 15:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Is the last one Dan's personal chess set from the Franklin Mint?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 14 March 2003 15:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

haha chessmen of gor!!

― mark s (mark s), Friday, 14 March 2003 15:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

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I beat that Korean entity btw

― June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

https://youtu.be/zIE3CFNpZ5Y
Cavett v Fischer

― calstars, Saturday, 8 February 2020 05:12 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

That Fischer video is so cool.

In other news: The Candidates has started! The Giri Vs Nepo. game is looking pretty interesting - neither player has castled after 18 moves.

https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/fide-candidates-2020/1/1/1

― cajunsunday, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 11:57 (four years ago) link

Hurrah! Chess has the undivided attention of a sports-obsessed public

― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 12:03 (four years ago) link

Magnus Carlsen commentating too. Awesome

― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 12:07 (four years ago) link

Yes its cool that Magnus is commentating. His company bought the chess24.com website, so he can do what he wants I guess.

― cajunsunday, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 12:46 (four years ago) link

Giri having to lose the game to draw it as things stand. Magnificent defence from the zen master

― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 16:08 (four years ago) link

Oof though, wow - Nepo finds it!

― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 16:39 (four years ago) link

Ding is in trouble against MVL. Could lose 2 games in a row!

― cajunsunday, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 12:19 (four years ago) link

Slight advantage against Caruana for Ding today. He needs the win

― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Thursday, 19 March 2020 11:16 (four years ago) link

Caruana has just gone for a complicated line that hands Ding a clear advantage if he plays it well. Exciting!

― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Thursday, 19 March 2020 11:18 (four years ago) link

Not ideal for Caruana to have to move the king to F2 in the first 10 moves!

― cajunsunday, Thursday, 19 March 2020 11:41 (four years ago) link

Oh wait. Ding is playing white. I'm confused.

― cajunsunday, Thursday, 19 March 2020 12:03 (four years ago) link

Ding now clearly winning!! Defended Caruana's preparation like a beast

― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Thursday, 19 March 2020 13:26 (four years ago) link

Pretty much over now. Caruana's a Bishop down with no counter-play.

― cajunsunday, Thursday, 19 March 2020 14:22 (four years ago) link

bit disrespectful spinning it out that long tbh

― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Thursday, 19 March 2020 16:07 (four years ago) link

Nepo leading the tournament. Would be a good challenger for Carlsen; he wouldn't win of course but there might be some fun games

― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Sunday, 22 March 2020 18:32 (four years ago) link

I think Nepo has a pretty good record against Carlsen so it could be interesting. I still think Caruana will come through in the end - he's got experience winning the big tournaments.

― cajunsunday, Sunday, 22 March 2020 20:18 (four years ago) link

6th round, Nepo in a winning position against Ding

― willem, Monday, 23 March 2020 13:36 (four years ago) link

FIDE stops #FIDECandidates

Official announcement - Starting March 27, 2020, Russia interrupts air traffic with other countries without indicating any time frames. In this situation FIDE President decided to stop the tournament.https://t.co/bnDDJhFuiG pic.twitter.com/YYo3SMidqj
— International Chess Federation (@FIDE_chess) March 26, 2020

They're taking everything away from us lads

― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 26 March 2020 10:10 (four years ago) link

ffs this has been keeping me going

― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Thursday, 26 March 2020 10:27 (four years ago) link

Sad times!

― cajunsunday, Thursday, 26 March 2020 11:20 (four years ago) link

maybe we can just give it to MVL lol

― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Thursday, 26 March 2020 11:23 (four years ago) link

They're taking everything away from us lads
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:10 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
ffs this has been keeping me going
― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:27 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

seriously :'(

― willem, Thursday, 26 March 2020 12:19 (four years ago) link

Magnus tasted what it was like to have the world's eyes on chess, and liked what he saw

https://chess24.com/en/read/news/magnus-carlsen-launches-online-chess-super-tournament

― ban laggy jazzer (imago), Friday, 3 April 2020 09:45 (four years ago) link

As a non-expert, I'm curious how they're going to prevent cheating in an online tournament like this. Wouldn't it be extremely easy for someone to use a computer to suggest moves? Or would that be easy to detect?

― o. nate, Friday, 3 April 2020 16:13 (four years ago) link

they will probably have to reveal everything in their room and share screens etc. odd behaviour can be easily detected by ppl who play a *lot* i think?

also there's the matter of pride and reputation, these people don't want even a cloud of suspicion over them.

also, if someone went through a tournament playing computer first and second choice moves with the occasional suboptimal that maintains advantage then idk there'd be questions

― ban laggy jazzer (imago), Friday, 3 April 2020 16:20 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

enjoying hikaru’s rapport with the streamers

― ||||||||, Saturday, 6 June 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link

ten months pass...

Candidates is on again and Fabi has already sacked 3 pawns and a piece

https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/fide-candidates-2020/8/1/1

― cajunsunday, Monday, 19 April 2021 12:01 (three years ago) link

Ok they have the same number of pieces now at least. Must have been an inbetween move!

― cajunsunday, Monday, 19 April 2021 12:22 (three years ago) link

seven months pass...

anyone watching the World Championship match at the moment? Looks like Carlsen is edging it

― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Friday, 26 November 2021 14:46 (two years ago) link

I'll tune in, but this (who is doing better) is one of those things I cannot possibly have an opinion on. Pure spectacle

― imago, Friday, 26 November 2021 15:03 (two years ago) link

https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/carlsen-nepomniachtchi-world-chess-championship-2021/1/1/1

judit polgar and anish giri arguing is all part of the fun

― imago, Friday, 26 November 2021 15:18 (two years ago) link

me, an idiot: 'nepo is up a pawn, he must be winning'

― imago, Friday, 26 November 2021 15:40 (two years ago) link

oh that's absolutely my level too, but that's why the theory chat is so fascinating

― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Friday, 26 November 2021 15:50 (two years ago) link

game 6 looks like being more exciting

― imago, Friday, 3 December 2021 12:45 (two years ago) link

and is

― imago, Friday, 3 December 2021 16:09 (two years ago) link

carlsen dicing with the clock to unveil something that could be spectacular

― imago, Friday, 3 December 2021 16:13 (two years ago) link

but nepo has blundered under pressure to help

― imago, Friday, 3 December 2021 16:16 (two years ago) link

aaahhh the counterblunder!

― imago, Friday, 3 December 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link

Now its a bullet game.

― ceci n'est pas une messi (cajunsunday), Friday, 3 December 2021 16:30 (two years ago) link

magnus won it, then lost it, and may be winning it again now. what an epic

― imago, Friday, 3 December 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link

wooooow

― imago, Friday, 3 December 2021 19:16 (two years ago) link

GAME OVER

136 moves

awesome

― imago, Friday, 3 December 2021 20:17 (two years ago) link

― imago, Friday, 10 December 2021 15:53 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

that was p epic. caruana completely blew it

― imago, Monday, 22 April 2024 00:31 (two weeks ago) link

Spoilers!

― H.P, Monday, 22 April 2024 01:46 (two weeks ago) link

you might say that nepo fought amazingly for a draw that did him no good either. why did he do that? because he's a model pro obv

― imago, Monday, 22 April 2024 06:36 (two weeks ago) link

chess makes me so very sad

― Swen, Monday, 22 April 2024 07:03 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJyP7PE6tbE

Ignore the terrible music. Nice sporting moment. Feel bad and great for both of them. Really love Nepo, hope he gets another shot at some point

― H.P, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 00:45 (two weeks ago) link

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