i wont ask how much you pay cuz its rude (tho you can say if you want), but i was kind of wondering how much of your pay check goes on rent, how much is usual. i was thinking about getting a cheaper place for the rest of 03, cuz im not sure i need to spend as much as i do (i guess im spending about a third of my salary on rent at the moment). at what point is rent taking up too much of your salary
also, i asked on another thread, but it kinda got lost, i was wondering if the nycers could give me a breakdown of what rents are working out at at the moment, both in nyc and nearby jersey (houseshares and also one bed places)
― gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 13:04 (twenty-three years ago)
I guess that means I've never been out from under the poverty line in my life. I spend well over half, possibly almost two thirds of my check on rent. :-( Which is good considering that the first flat I had in the UK, I spent over three quarters of my paycheck on rent. Gah, this is depressing me.
― kate, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 13:17 (twenty-three years ago)
― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 13:27 (twenty-three years ago)
― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 13:31 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 13:36 (twenty-three years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 13:40 (twenty-three years ago)
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― alext (alext), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 13:56 (twenty-three years ago)
― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 14:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― marianna, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 14:06 (twenty-three years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 14:06 (twenty-three years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 14:11 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 14:12 (twenty-three years ago)
― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 14:17 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mandee, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 14:30 (twenty-three years ago)
nonetheless, after bills (esp. bad when you live alone), this is k-high and unacceptable. i gave notice on my apt. last night.
― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 14:32 (twenty-three years ago)
If I move into that place in Brooklyn, it will jump to approximately 32.5%.
― hstencil, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 14:57 (twenty-three years ago)
i cant even begin to imagine all the cool shit i'd have if my rent was 25% of my paycheque
― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:01 (twenty-three years ago)
― hstencil, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:05 (twenty-three years ago)
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― adam (adam), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:08 (twenty-three years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:09 (twenty-three years ago)
― Fuzzy (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:10 (twenty-three years ago)
i think i'm paying too much for what ive got though, its not worth the money
― gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:10 (twenty-three years ago)
Really?!
*Then again, I am a wuss, and freaked out last week when I found two empty cans of Tennant's Super on the windowsill looking out into our back garden.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:10 (twenty-three years ago)
― kate, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:13 (twenty-three years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:17 (twenty-three years ago)
― hstencil, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:24 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:25 (twenty-three years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:26 (twenty-three years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:28 (twenty-three years ago)
― hstencil, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:29 (twenty-three years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:30 (twenty-three years ago)
i'm paying the equivalent of $750 right now for a big room in a reasonably sought after area (though condition of room is sub-trifean at best), which is kind of high for a shared house maybe. what would that get you in nyc?
― gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:31 (twenty-three years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:32 (twenty-three years ago)
― hstencil, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:33 (twenty-three years ago)
and NOWHERE is more expensive than London to live surely
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:37 (twenty-three years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:40 (twenty-three years ago)
― adam (adam), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:40 (twenty-three years ago)
― hstencil, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:42 (twenty-three years ago)
― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:44 (twenty-three years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:45 (twenty-three years ago)
I pay $650 a month which is not really a reasonable approximation of NYC at all.
― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:45 (twenty-three years ago)
― hstencil, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:46 (twenty-three years ago)
― Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo (cindigo), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:49 (twenty-three years ago)
I pay 1/6th of my paycheck in rent if you assume that my boyfriend and I split the rent, but what usually happens is that we split the rent and then he runs out of money and I float him about that much anyway (note: he's not using me because he's a year away from being a high-paid lawyer plus he's good in bed and generally awesome so I'm getting paid fo sho).
― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:50 (twenty-three years ago)
― kate, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:52 (twenty-three years ago)
seriously, American's got $249 fares from JFK to Heathrow for next weekend.
― hstencil, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 15:56 (twenty-three years ago)
I'm at like 45% of take-home.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Saturday, 23 February 2008 05:04 (eighteen years ago)
80%
― remy bean, Saturday, 23 February 2008 05:05 (eighteen years ago)
25% of take home which isn't bad except another 25% goes to childcare so i'm back at that post-collegiate just barely breaking even level. shit gets old.
― gershy, Saturday, 23 February 2008 05:30 (eighteen years ago)
how tough will it be for me to absorb a $150/month rent increase? have you ever? did you learn to cook or give up drinking?
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 14:16 (eighteen years ago)
About 50% but my rent also includes food, house hold items, utilities and maintenance because I live in a coop.
― Mr. Goodman, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 14:25 (eighteen years ago)
Like a chicken?
― Raw Patrick, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 14:28 (eighteen years ago)
Our mortgage comes to just over 1/3 of our combined monthly take-home pay, but we actually pay double that (i.e. 2/3s) into the joint account to also pay for food, bills, etc too. I think we budget pretty generously for food (£300pm for two people). I sense another thread. Which leaves approx 1/3 of my salary for "me", plus whatever extras I make writing (after putting some aside for tax).
― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 14:30 (eighteen years ago)
The joint account also covers stuff like car insurance, MOT, and extra to offset service / repairs should we need any, plus a tenner a month put aside for potential vet bills for Bob should he ever get ill.
― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 14:34 (eighteen years ago)
Wow. Organized. We're paying about 50% of our combined on three mortgages and its making me hyperventilate daily.
― sunny successor, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 14:37 (eighteen years ago)
Em does ALL the organising. I just pay a few hundred quid into the joint account every payday.
― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 14:46 (eighteen years ago)
I think we're actually paying less than 1/4 of our combined take-home in rent. No rent control, just nicest landlord ever.
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:06 (eighteen years ago)
morbs - can you ask your boss for a cost of living wage increase or something?
i absorbed about a $400 increase last time i moved and it wasn't too hard to adjust.
― bell_labs, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:09 (eighteen years ago)
My mortgage is less than a quarter of my take home.
Sunny, I would hyperventilate as well.
― Bonita Applebum, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:11 (eighteen years ago)
Rent is about 60% of net. Live in Brooklyn.
― paulhw, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:13 (eighteen years ago)
yeah my rent is exactly half my take home. brooklyn as well.
― bell_labs, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:19 (eighteen years ago)
Jersey City makes a big difference, although our rent is cheap even for our neighborhood.
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:21 (eighteen years ago)
Actually at this point I don't know if my neighborhood is much cheaper than most of the neighborhoods bordering Williamsburg.
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:22 (eighteen years ago)
my neighborhood is one of the cheapest in brooklyn - crown heights. if i were willing to live with roomates i could pay much less than half, but it's worth it to me now.
― bell_labs, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:25 (eighteen years ago)
Jersey is getting expensive as hell. Rents for a 1br in East Rutherford close to the train are pretty much what they are for a 1br in Greenpoint.
― burt_stanton, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:26 (eighteen years ago)
labs, I get that COLA raise once a year. maybe just pray I get Midwood instead of Ocean Pkwy doorman bldg.
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:27 (eighteen years ago)
Xmas payrise means I'm now down to 39% of take home! Assuming my wife gets taken on permanent at her job I won't be the only one paying for it soon as well.
― Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:32 (eighteen years ago)
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lol @ hipstercentric worldview
Suburban North NJ BEEN expensive. It's not like most commuters prioritize record stores and the availability of Zywiec in local convenience stores.
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:34 (eighteen years ago)
Oddly enough East Rutherford has a huge Polish-speaking community. It's only been in the past 10-15 years these parts of New Jersey have gentrified ... they used to be mega working class like North Brooklyn.
― burt_stanton, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:39 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah, admittedly I don't know E. Rutherford. Just that in general the suburbs have been expensive. It's the rents in cities that are the surprise.
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:45 (eighteen years ago)
Still, it's funny to use Greenpoint as a standard. Like a lot of New Jerseyans who left Brooklyn a generation ago would probably be more shocked at Greenpoint rents.
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 15:56 (eighteen years ago)
Looking at getting a house with a friend who moved back from NYC, trying to figure on a fair split. Her take-home after 401k/insurance is about 3.5x mine, which is irrelevant to the split itself, but she leans toward nicer areas than I'm used to living in.
House is $930 for a 3/1/1 - she'd get the master and use of the garage (I'm not even sure my truck would fit in this garage, tbh). We'd split the third bedroom - she wants a futon for people to crash on, I want a desk for school/work. Yard work split. She's talking $515/415, 50/50 on the cable/internet/electric.
Sound fair? We haven't seen the interior yet, so I'm not entirely sure how much better the master is. Use of the garage is a question for me. I don't want to park in it, but I feel like if she's got it for parking, her share should go up a bit.
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Sunday, 1 May 2011 03:16 (fifteen years ago)
Ha, I'm now paying the same as what I was upthread for HALF of the rent here, this place is a ripoff. I earn a bit more now but not much. We're moving when the lease is up because fuck $2,200 a month in rent.
― Concubine Tree (Trayce), Sunday, 1 May 2011 04:46 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.splittherent.org/
― offee is for losers only, do you not c? (Abbbottt), Sunday, 1 May 2011 04:58 (fifteen years ago)
Apologies if this is the wrong thread, I searched...
I rent out a house back in the UK, via a letting agent, to students. Some new tenants want to take it from September 2012 - the new academic year. Apparently students have to provide names/signatures of guarantors. The letting agent has let me know that one of them has suggested a guarantor who is not a homeowner and is not employed, and has told me it's my decision whether to accept this. The agents don't have/won't ask for info on savings. Apparently the student can offer no other guarantor.
Chances of something going wrong are minimal, but last lot of tenants were very difficult (house was burgled after they left the key in the lock inside a door with a glass panel; they insisted on moving out as they 'didn't feel safe'), and there's always the risk.
I'd feel like a total arse saying no - some people just don't have anyone in their lives who can be a guarantor. On the other hand there's a long time to go before Sept. and there will be other takers for the house. WWYD?
― ljubljana, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 12:54 (fourteen years ago)
dnftt
― teaky frigger (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 12:59 (fourteen years ago)
Gotcha. Thanks. I forgot we had an actual expert.
― ljubljana, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 13:04 (fourteen years ago)
If the non-guarantor student makes off without paying or steals the carpet or chops up the sofa for firewood, is it your responsibility or the letting agent's? And does that responsibility change if the student did have a guarantor?
― get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 13:15 (fourteen years ago)
You could ask for a credit check on the guarantor?
― mmmm, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 13:36 (fourteen years ago)
well i'm assuming when the agent refers it to you, that it's going to come back on you- those are fair questions otherwise.
Deposit in place etc?
― teaky frigger (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 13:38 (fourteen years ago)
dmftt=do not effing touch that? Urban dictionary says it's do not feed the trolls! Ljub!* If there are trolls living under this house, do not feed them!
*I should start calling you R as in my head, Ljub is pronounced 'lube'
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 14:27 (fourteen years ago)
heh sorry i've always had it as the other thing
― teaky frigger (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 14:36 (fourteen years ago)
it's cool, I had never seen it, either way! I will keep my eye out for this acronym so I can question whether the person using it is concerned about trolls, or touching.
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
do not fuck the trolls
― teaky frigger (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 14:41 (fourteen years ago)
do not touch the fuckers
― Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:05 (fourteen years ago)
aw I always feel terrible when I see prompt answers, I neglect ILX during working hours, I may change this.
'do not touch the fuckers' possibly otm here.
Darragh, yes, any problems (trashing, falling behind on rent etc.) would be my ultimate responsibility if the agent can't get the tenants to pay up. Now the agent is asking whether I'd accept rent upfront. Minded to say no as that doesn't preclude trashing, but still feel like an arse. But - there's a long way to go before the current tenants move out: I'm in no rush and there's no reason for me to accept these particular tenants, if I'm being selfish.
Also, the agency (and I think most agencies are like this) is crap, so don't trust them to resolve any given situation as it arises.
― ljubljana, Thursday, 26 January 2012 02:02 (fourteen years ago)
xp to FFM: you got to add that little 'y' sound (which is the 'j') and then it's all ok and distinguished from...other scenarios...
― ljubljana, Thursday, 26 January 2012 02:05 (fourteen years ago)
Hah! Yes, this I can do. Good call!
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 26 January 2012 04:30 (fourteen years ago)
i mean it's really your call based on the info only you have re: what's the value of what's in the property, any deposit you can get out of them, what you think yr odds are of getting someone who'll have a guarantor if you turn em down, all common-sense stuff really
References and meeting them first to get a read on them are, unfortunately, not much good to you ime- i know you can feel arsehole-y, consider it an occupational hazard if that makes you feel better about it, but the concepts of deposits/guarantors didn't spring up overnight for no reason- they might be the most wonderful bunch ever lived, in which case any deposit gets returned and any guarantor is taking no risk.
― teaky frigger (darraghmac), Friday, 27 January 2012 12:21 (fourteen years ago)
just reading again- can the rest of them provide guarantors, is it just one that can't? Changes the odds a wee bit tbf....
― teaky frigger (darraghmac), Friday, 27 January 2012 12:24 (fourteen years ago)
there's my infamous attn to detail at work
― teaky frigger (darraghmac), Friday, 27 January 2012 12:25 (fourteen years ago)
We assumed that was your infamous heartlessness at work
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 27 January 2012 12:27 (fourteen years ago)
Got back to the agents to say I would not go with it, even though only one of the tenants has the issue, because of the whole 'these concepts did not spring up for nothing' thing, and the fact that I think most potential tenants *would* have a guarantor. Agents asked if I'd accept rent upfront instead, I said no - firstly because it's a furnished place (not beautifully, but still) and secondly because if rent default were to be a problem it would likely be a problem over more than one month. Agents then got back to me and said 'ok, we'll go back to ask for a different guarantor' - hmmm, they originally told me they'd already done that and there was no-one available...
― ljubljana, Friday, 27 January 2012 12:30 (fourteen years ago)
dunno if that's a serious zing or just a zing tom, but yeah, maybe....?
― teaky frigger (darraghmac), Friday, 27 January 2012 12:39 (fourteen years ago)
Just a zing tom
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 27 January 2012 12:41 (fourteen years ago)
the zing tom, microsoft's new navigational device
― teaky frigger (darraghmac), Friday, 27 January 2012 12:43 (fourteen years ago)