nineteen eightybore

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so, has everyone just calmed down about the fact that we are "being monitored"? i have noticed a marked decrease in the works of, uh, popular art trading on peoples fear of being monitored by the govt/big bizness/yr neighbor (cf. the early-mid 90s boom in "technothrillers"zzzz)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 18:37 (twenty-three years ago)

(Jess works for Them don't answer him!)

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 18:40 (twenty-three years ago)

I haven't but I appear not to be typical of humankind.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 18:41 (twenty-three years ago)

That's because we've traded up and we're worried about the aliens who keep us entrapped for energy and all. Unfortunately, the key to the truth is Keanu Reeves, and thus we are doomed.

Perhaps more cogently, my thought is this -- assuming that every word/comment/post EVERYWHERE is being read and analyzed by The Secret Government Bods in Washington seems a stretch too far. If anything Big Business seems to have more of the money and time to do so, and that's increased my spam perhaps but still.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 18:46 (twenty-three years ago)

I always just figured the camera is recording but no one is reviewing the tape (that's partly a metaphor)

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 18:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Big Brother can know whatever It wants to about me, I have nothing to hide.

Okay, except for the gimp.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 18:48 (twenty-three years ago)

being scared/paranoid gets tiring

― Aaron A., Tuesday, 18 March 2003 18:50 (twenty-three years ago)

i don't like all the soldiers in the subway; i ESPECIALLY don't like how i've basically gotten used to them

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 18:50 (twenty-three years ago)

HELLO ECHELON!

― hstencil, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 19:12 (twenty-three years ago)

final year design students here in wellington - renowned for their superficial understanding of THEORY and their technolust - are still making 'art' about surveillance (if that's how you spell that pesky word). it often involves them being photographed having sex with their faceless girlfriends.

― Clare (not entirely unhappy), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 19:13 (twenty-three years ago)

cabaret voltaire to thread

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 19:28 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't think people have calmed down that much: no one like spyware-related problems and there is still a demand for firewalls and anonymous internet surfing. I like to check the electronic frontier foundation website every now and then to see what's going on on that front. That said I think living in an open society would be a refreshing interesting experiment.

― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 22:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I've stopped using the term "I'm going to kill the president" as slang for masturbation.

― Dave Fischer, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 23:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Here.

― yeah (Millar), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 23:13 (twenty-three years ago)

paranoia.mil
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so checking google's cache you found one of those unsecured military machines that i've heard of and registered yourself a free .mil domain name! well done yeah. could you get me "pigfuckaz.mil" pretty please?

― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 00:44 (twenty-three years ago)

weren't most of those techno-paranoia movies made in the last century? there was a big rush of apocalyptic/world turned upside down type thrillers in 1998-9. then everyone calmed down, time started stretching out again, and we're more in the mood for seemingly endless escapist fantasy sagas. see LoTR, Harry Potter, uh, Stuart Little. makese sense, no?

― pete b. (pete b.), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 09:38 (twenty-three years ago)

".....the image of gleaming chrome mega-structures, leisurely strolls through skywalks, minimalist trouser suits or toga-like stately robes, that's gone. (As has the militaristic mirror-image of that utopia - which now looks clumsy and rigid: Big Brother hasn't had to be imposed upon us - we have bought into it as a side-effect of better access to information, ease of communication, buy-now-pay-later, special offers for our consumer loyalties, a fear of street crime, desire for greater entertainment)...."

― Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 18:06 (twenty-three years ago)

i keep wondering if the soldiers would bust me if they saw me smoking down ont the far end of the platform. probably not. that's "police stuff". but what if they saw somebody snatch a purse? would it do for young fit men armed with guns to stand idly by while a purse-snatcher makes his escape? probably not! but heh heh i just imagine them trying to hop over the turnstiles with their stupid camo outfits and M-16s kind of dangling and bumping them on the backside hah ha ha!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 20:37 (twenty-three years ago)

yesterday i was woken by what my roommate said were TEN apache helicopters lazily circling brooklyn OVER and OVER and OVER - i don't mind the police state, guys, but could you keep it down until noon please?!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 20:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Interesting though that you reference 1984 in the thread title though Jess - I think that newspeak and doublethink are now the eerily prescient Orwellian ideas, rather than "Big Brother is always watching you..." If Newspeak hadn't already existed the Bush Government would have had to invent it ("Freedom fries"????).

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 23:29 (twenty-three years ago)

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