An uprising in Basra?

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Hmmm....hm.

In unrelated news, they still don't know what kind of disease it is.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 19:24 (twenty-three years ago)

re: basra-

this is another example of how i no longer am able to tell what is good and what is bad anymore. thanks, war, for destroying my ability to look at and analyze situations in terms of objective morals.

j fail (cenotaph), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 19:27 (twenty-three years ago)

No prob.

War (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 19:28 (twenty-three years ago)

(don't you mean @hell.gov?)

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 19:29 (twenty-three years ago)

It might be promising in that if there are more uprising everything could go quicker.

It doesn't mean that the Iraqi people suddenly love us. Its probably that there are severe food and water shortages in Basra and they have no other option.

fletrejet, Tuesday, 25 March 2003 19:30 (twenty-three years ago)

I just found out today the Prime Minister of Serbia had been assassinated - when did this in fact happen?!

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 19:31 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't understand why we should trust the military that this is an "uprising" when they told us the other day that the Iraqi troops were "surrendering."

hstencil, Tuesday, 25 March 2003 19:32 (twenty-three years ago)

The U.S. will probably fly in Bruce Springsteen for an impromptu concert on a tank. "Come on and rise up...." Its all part of psych ops.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 19:33 (twenty-three years ago)

it's such a moral abyss.

an argument for wanting the war to be over as quickly as possible: less deaths, less destruction, less war overall.

however, if the war is prolonged and becomes difficult for america, then it will not only lose favor with the bits of public that currently support it, but it will lose favor with the elites who influence policy, etc. and it will basically destroy any chance of bush being able to do this in iran, north korea, syria (which are planned anyway). so i almost think it might be better for this war to be a disaster just to prevent future bullshit.

of course, i don't think either way is good or bad; it is all bad. and i no longer know what "good" and "bad" mean.

last night i was playing some electro-acoustic improv with people and i was unable to tell whether certain parts i played were "good" or "bad". thanks again, war.

j fail (cenotaph), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 19:33 (twenty-three years ago)

the question is who are they rising against?

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 19:36 (twenty-three years ago)

We are being told there is a popular uprising in Basra itself, because of that the armed forces that remain, the Iraqi forces, are firing on those people who are protesting against Saddam Hussein's regime," he added.

Again, Saddam shows what a benevolent dictator he is: fight not only the Western infidels, but wipe out any troublesome citizens, and start over.

US researchers believe the illness may be caused by a new, more virulent version of the virus that causes the common cold.

Having heard about this on CNN last week before travelling, the only word I can use is "frightening". I know the symptoms began showing in Bejing, but why am I thinking this is a new form of bio-warfare? It is entirely possible that the virus was transported into the country.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 19:36 (twenty-three years ago)

colds and flus evelovel in southern china, it no suprise that a new respiratory illness started there.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 19:40 (twenty-three years ago)

great post, j fail!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 19:41 (twenty-three years ago)

The WHO has appealed to the authorities in Beijing for more cooperation in tracking down the origin of the disease in China.

It's wrong of me to be attempting to formulate Pete Townsend jokes, right?

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 19:42 (twenty-three years ago)

that's just a cop out because you can't think of any.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 19:43 (twenty-three years ago)

True.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 19:43 (twenty-three years ago)

tracer, are you being sarcastic? i'm sorry if i appear simple-minded or anything but i really am just trying to deal with this on a personal level and forgive me for occasionally fleshing out my thoughts on ILX... i always have fears that these are going to turn up in google years later and i'll be totally embarassed at what an immature nitwit i was.....

john fail (cenotaph), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 19:48 (twenty-three years ago)

I think tracer was being genuine.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 19:56 (twenty-three years ago)

whoops, sorry to get so defensive! this war just has me so stressed out, as you can imagine.

j fail (cenotaph), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 20:03 (twenty-three years ago)


:) :) :) :) :) :)

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 20:12 (twenty-three years ago)

(i really did think it was a great post and i wanted to point it out before it got pushed up and forgotten!)

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 20:12 (twenty-three years ago)

and now it's the focal point of the thread!

j fail (cenotaph), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 20:23 (twenty-three years ago)

That and evelovel.

Arthur (Arthur), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 20:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Eve Love 1? Isn't she that new rapper out of DC?

Wanting the Iraqis to be doubly screwed so that the US doesn't go on any more crusades is kind of cavalier, jf. At $100 billion a pop I don't think we're gonna liberate any more countries during GWB's reign, even if it's 5 more years.

nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 01:28 (twenty-three years ago)

And what are they rising up FOR?

nb: http://www.religioscope.info/article_61.shtml is of interest here. The Shia party dislike Saddam coz he's too secular and too tied to the Sunnis. Destabalizing a country full of different competing religious and national minorities is a recipe for communal bloodletting all around.

Also note that rising up vs. Saddam doesn't = rising up pro-"liberators" as plenty of the history of SE asia shows in particular. Vietnam to thread.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 04:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Chris's post made me spit wine out onto the computer I was laughing so hard. YOU ARE BAD.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 04:52 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't understand why we should trust the military that this is an "uprising" when they told us the other day that the Iraqi troops were "surrendering."

One ambush vs. 4,000 captured Iraqi troops.

To me, people not being able to acknowledge even a sliver of good in Coalition troops giving Iraqi people fresh water is a sign their interests lie more in winning a debate then in the reality of the situation.

bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 05:48 (twenty-three years ago)

i am here to amuse. could bruce's chest hair survive a sandstorm?

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 15:48 (twenty-three years ago)

His chest hair could survive anything. As can that horrible grimace he makes whenever he sings.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 15:49 (twenty-three years ago)

http://extratv.warnerbros.com/images/02/08/19springsteen_200.jpg

The man simply looks constipated all the time.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 15:52 (twenty-three years ago)

The chest hair famously protected him from the C. Cox death ray glare all those years ago.

Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 15:53 (twenty-three years ago)

It's like he's got so much emotion and passion and New Jersey and shit, that he's literally in excruciating pain trying to express it.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 15:56 (twenty-three years ago)

he is so the Boss.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 15:59 (twenty-three years ago)


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