Can anyone recommend really BAD left-/right-wing opinion sites?

Michael Moore - any semblance of "fact" x 1,000,000 = ???

or

Fox News - any semblance of "fact" x 1,000,000 = ???

Actually both of the sites I've posted are equal parts wonderful and infuriating.

http://www.commondreams.org

http://www.onlinejournal.com/

it's frequently down, lately, due to right-wing h4x0rZ

The idea of right wing hackers is somehow sad.

"Kayla's kindergarten class loves 'Re," says Husted. "All the kids want to be soldiers now."

Total lunatic fringe stuff.

kind of sad. but it does give you this

http://members.iglou.com/bandit/tim01b.jpg

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/sex-magic-teen-vogues-latest-delusion-for-young-girls/

oh, the days when recommendations were needed to find really bad right-wing opinion sites

www.ilxor.com

As long as ppl keep posting links to splinternews and the intercept, yup

I'm not going to even try to stan for the intercept in the US but it does like their Brazil sister site might be doing some good, if being targeted by Bolsanaro's goons is any indication.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/03/brazil-glenn-greenwald-investigation-outcry-bar-association-journalists

I'm surprised Common Dreams would be singled out here. It's inconsistent but not that bad, at least when I used to pay much attention to them.

You want BAD? I'll give you bad...

https://consortiumnews.com

https://www.globalresearch.ca

http://axisoflogic.com

https://www.truthdig.com

https://www.sott.net

I miss the Guerrilla News Network.

Facebook

https://wattsupwiththat.com/
"The world's most viewed site on global warming and climate change"

this “Palmer report” site my mom was reading for awhile is probably bad

Wau Karl that's a doozy. They're still harping on "climategate"? You'd think that level of industry-friendly bullshit would be better funded.

On the other end, this is really just some guy's blog but it is a good contrast, he churns out an incessant stream of doom-mongering. This post was a real doozy:

http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2019/06/when-will-we-die.html

I'm feeling a bit redundant now.

Wau Karl that's a doozy. They're still harping on "climategate"? You'd think that level of industry-friendly bullshit would be better funded.

sadly, they really are the most viewed site on climate change. at least, they were for several years in the 2007-2012 time frame. before climategate, their big thing was the idea that the weather stations that record temperatures across the world are systematically wrong/biased. anticlimate activists on the site would go out to visit certain stations and take pictures of weather stations near buildings or other heat-generating sources. they would then use this to argue that the entirety of the temperature record was unreliable. occasionally one of their posts would bubble up to the point where an actual scientist would feel the need to weigh in and debunk the entire site.

actually, here's all you need to know about that 'debate': https://skepticalscience.com/surface-temperature-measurements-basic.htm

"We found [U.S. weather] stations located next to the exhaust fans of air conditioning units, surrounded by asphalt parking lots and roads, on blistering-hot rooftops, and near sidewalks and buildings that absorb and radiate heat. We found 68 stations located at wastewater treatment plants, where the process of waste digestion causes temperatures to be higher than in surrounding areas.

In fact, we found that 89 percent of the stations – nearly 9 of every 10 – fail to meet the National Weather Service’s own siting requirements that stations must be 30 meters (about 100 feet) or more away from an artificial heating or radiating/reflecting heat source." (Watts 2009)"

the short answers to that:

-The warming trend is the same in rural and urban areas, measured by thermometers and satellites, and by natural thermometers.
-Numerous studies into the effect of urban heat island effect and microsite influences find they have negligible effect on long-term trends, particularly when averaged over large regions.
-Independent studies using different software, different methods, and different data sets yield very similar results. The increase in temperatures since 1975 is a consistent feature of all reconstructions. This increase cannot be explained as an artifact of the adjustment process, the decrease in station numbers, or other non-climatological factors. Natural temperature measurements also confirm the general accuracy of the instrumental temperature record.

anyway, this went on for years and years, getting debunked over and over while the watts crew responded with more photos of air conditioners, until climategate came up and they all shifted to that

if you want to live the entire "arguing with climate skeptics" experience in about 2 minutes, just read this:

https://skepticalscience.com/1934-hottest-year-on-record.htm

then read the very first comment, along with the response.

(realizing that the majority of people reading this thread won't click on the link, i feel the need to point out that "skepticalscience.com" is a terrible, misleading name for the website - it's dedicated to providing simple, organized answers to common climate "skeptic" arguments)

i forgot about wattsupwiththat, then remembered it again. i thought i'd check in and see how they're doing. they are deeply angry with greta thunberg, who recently replied to a tweet by some kickboxing asshole.

yes, please do enlighten me. email me at smalldickene✧✧✧@getal✧✧✧.c✧✧ https://t.co/V8geeVvEvg

— Greta Thunberg (@GretaThunberg) December 28, 2022

But that inspired an idea. Maybe more of us should have some fun, because what Andrew Tate did was important.

If you have any high carbon personal transportation or a gasoline guzzling toy to show off, make sure you let Greta Thunberg know via Twitter that living in a free country means you still get to enjoy using it.

But scrub the registration number before posting. No need to let her nasty army of trolls know your inside leg measurement.

the amount of projection with these kinds of people - alt-right? far right? normal right? - is kind of unbelievable sometimes. the comments, though. some of them are vile. absolutely everything is upside-down, like the dumbest things get the most votes and the rare traces of a decent point of view get heavily downvoted. then there's this guy

It doesnot add up
December 29, 2022 10:28 am
Seems to be appropriate to reprise this adaptation of Neil Diamond’s song (made popular by the Monkees)

Climate change is only true in fairy tales
Meant for someone else but not for me.
Gore was out to get me
That’s the way it seemed.
Disappointment haunted all my dreams.

Then I saw the Beeb, now I’m a believer
Not a trace of doubt in my mind.
I’m a Mann, I’m a believer!
I couldn’t leave her if I tried.

Climate aid is more or less a givin’ thing,
Seems the more I gave the less I got.
What’s the use in tryin’?
All you get is pain.
When I needed sunshine I got rain.

Then I saw the Beeb, now I’m a believer
Not a trace of doubt in my mind.
I’m Greta, I’m a believer!
I couldn’t leave her if I tried.

Greta’s out to get me
Now, that’s the way it seemed
Disappointment haunted all my dreams

Oh, then I saw her face, now I’m a believer
Not a trace of doubt in my mind.
I’m in love, I’m a believer!
I couldn’t leave her if I tried.

Yes, I saw the Beeb, now I’m a believer
And not a trace of doubt in my mind.
Said I’m a believer
I’m a believer
I’m a believer
Said I’m a believer
I’m a believer
I said I’m a believer
I’m a believer

(the Beeb is slang for the BBC)

The dude's response to Greta's burn was "How dare you?!" - which is so pathetic and makes Greta's Tweet even more hilarious.
https://imgur.com/a/oKZYPxA

yeah, i didn't realize that Greta Thunberg saying "how dare you" in that speech at the UN climate convention is something a lot of people on the right are obsessed with. either the kickboxer doesn't realize that it's not a comedic catchphrase to everyone else, or all he cares about is his core audience of bitter snowflakes

really weird coincidence of timing here, and i didn't know who this andrew tate guy was until the thunberg tweet thing, but

BREAKING: Andrew Tate has just been raided by Romanian anti terrorism authorities. This is not related to Greta Thunberg nuking him into orbit online. pic.twitter.com/0J4LzTsQDC

— The Serfs (@theserfstv) December 29, 2022

jeez, look at his website. this is at the very top, the very first thing you see

https://i.imgur.com/YT8kegn.png

Ah...I didn't get the reference - but even knowing it now, the dude's "joke" doesn't land.

yeah, it's very revealing of what he and his followers think is funny. the completely abysmal sense of humor of rightwingers is low on the list of their problems but maaaaaaan it's so stupid, just like 6th grade is the pinnacle

Haha...yikes...I found this link: https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/12/29/luxury-villa-of-influencer-andrew-tate-and-his-brother-tristan-raided-by-romanian-police/

Greta's tweet has now become one of the top 25 most liked tweets of all time with 2.8 million likes. It could easily hit the top ten by the weekend. This is absolutely legendary. https://t.co/edp071iCdC pic.twitter.com/C3A5xZL1Oq

— Alejandra Caraballo (@Esqueer_) December 29, 2022

it'll be interesting (for me and only me) to check back on that wattsupwiththat comment section and see how everyone is handling this

yeah, i didn't realize that Greta Thunberg saying "how dare you" in that speech at the UN climate convention is something a lot of people on the right are obsessed with. either the kickboxer doesn't realize that it's not a comedic catchphrase to everyone else, or all he cares about is his core audience of bitter snowflakes