'100 Greatest Movie Stars'

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This is a UK TV show, on at the moment, finishing tomorrow. I thought we needed somewhere to talk about it.

My first "WHAT?!?" moment was Jane Fonda ranking below Kevin Costner. My suspicion is that my favourite, Jean Gabin, won't get a look in.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 4 May 2003 19:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Gwyneth Paltrow and Winona Ryder are better than Jane Fonda too.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 4 May 2003 19:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'll defend Winona to the death, but not Gwyneth.

if Bogart isn't #1 there's something seriously wrong.

― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 4 May 2003 20:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

It won't be anyone that old, surely? I'd have thought Cary Grant, especially in a UK vote, would be at the top, but I guess it will be someone more recent. Clint will do well.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 4 May 2003 20:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

My predictions (not endorsements) for the top 10. I doubt if I'll watch it as I just end up spluttering into my ovaltine.

1. Cary Grant
2. James Stewart
3. Humphrey Bogart
4. Jack Nicholson.
5. Katharine Hepburn
6. Steve McQueen
7. Tom Cruise
8. Charlie Chaplin
9. Julia Roberts.
10. Orson Welles.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 4 May 2003 20:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

although i often feel that i've lost any semblance of faith in a collective human intelligence, when i encounter such programs, i ultimately feel a sharp pang akin to b.d. sputtering into (his) ovaltine'. surely his list is not far from the show's actual countdown. and, if so, are you not saddened and/or alarmed that the likes of tom cruise and julia roberts can trump alec guinness, marcello mastrianni or phillip seymour hoffman?

― j.a.e., Sunday, 4 May 2003 21:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

The film immediately following the second instalment is Raging Bull. Coincidence?

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 4 May 2003 21:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

Chaplin barely made the top 50. He's not quite as good as Jim Carrey, as it turns out. John Wayne was 50-somethingth too, which is a big surprise, I think. John Travolta is higher than them.

As for j.a.e.'s point, I think the fact that they are talking about movie stars rather than movie actors means that some mega-success is necessary. I'm not sure how it's selected, which makes it hard to guess the winners. I suspect Billy's are a bit old, but I don't have people I think will do better.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 4 May 2003 22:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

movie stars, you say? well, then for the pure celebrity-ness of their careers, tom and julia should gain top showing. as for the criteria for qualifying, i suspect something akin to getting the ga-ga drool of one oprah winfrey, or the like.

― j.a.e., Sunday, 4 May 2003 22:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

these are moviestars, not actors.

― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 4 May 2003 23:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Paul. Newman.

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 5 May 2003 01:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

kevin costner is a great moviestar? this is why these shows are best avoided.

― donna (donna), Monday, 5 May 2003 05:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think you're right Martin, my guesses are biased a bit towards 'the golden age of Hollywood'. I suppose I expect a bit better from these programmes and I'm usually disappointed. Still it is bank holiday Channel 4, not Sight and Sound after all so I should know better.

Having said that I'm still picking my jaw off the ground that John Wayne isn't even in the top 50 never mind the top 20, like him or loathe him he had a 50 year + career and was a big draw even into his 70's.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 5 May 2003 07:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

''The film immediately following the second instalment is Raging Bull. Coincidence?''

just my thought when I looked at the TV program this morning.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 5 May 2003 09:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

The 100 greatest movie stars begin and end with the little people from the Wizard of Oz. ...or was that the Flying Monkeys?

― Roman (Roman), Monday, 5 May 2003 11:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

De Niro has no chance of winning. He's not a colossal enough moviestar, even though he is one of the great star actors. I think other faves of mine (I mentioned Gabin) tend to be more character actors, so I guess we won't get Duvall and Steiger in the remaining nearly-half. Brando will be high up. Nicole Kidman could be the top woman, or maybe second to Katherine Hepburn.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 5 May 2003 16:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

AFI did a show like this awhile back, in addition to 100 Greates Movies, Thrills, Laughs.
The full list of the 25 top male and 25 top female legends is:

MEN WOMEN
1. Humphrey Bogart 1. Katharine Hepburn
2. Cary Grant 2. Bette Davis
3. James Stewart 3. Audrey Hepburn
4. Marlon Brando 4. Ingrid Bergman
5. Fred Astaire 5. Greta Garbo
6. Henry Fonda 6. Marilyn Monroe
7. Clark Gable 7. Elizabeth Taylor
8. James Cagney 8. Judy Garland
9. Spencer Tracy 9. Marlene Dietrich
10. Charlie Chaplin 10. Joan Crawford
11. Gary Cooper 11. Barbara Stanwyck
12. Gregory Peck 12. Claudette Colbert
13. John Wayne 13. Grace Kelly
14. Laurence Olivier 14. Ginger Rogers
15. Gene Kelly 15. Mae West
16. Orson Welles 16. Vivien Leigh
17. Kirk Douglas 17. Lillian Gish
18. James Dean 18. Shirley Temple
19. Burt Lancaster 19. Rita Hayworth
20. The Marx Brothers 20. Lauren Bacall
21. Buster Keaton 21. Sophia Loren
22. Sidney Poitier 22. Jean Harlow
23. Robert Mitchum 23. Carole Lombard
24. Edward G. Robinson 24. Mary Pickford
25. William Holden 25. Ava Gardner

― buttch (Oops), Monday, 5 May 2003 16:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

I would suspect that there will be very few entries from the current era, as it's generally accepted among film-nerds that there have been no GREAT movies since Raging Bull.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 5 May 2003 16:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

De Niro is SURE to win, on the basis that 'Raging Bull' is being shown straight after the second installment...i also predict Ewan McGregor will dent the top 10 (gasp!)

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 5 May 2003 17:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

why has deniro no chance of winning martin?

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 5 May 2003 17:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

He's never been a major movie star! He's a very major movie actor, but he's never been a colossal box office movie star. I'm confident he won't win.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 5 May 2003 17:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

1: max perlich
2: max von sydow
3: gene wilder
4:

― bob snoom, Monday, 5 May 2003 18:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Richard E. Grant does the voiceover. The meeting must have gone "Can we think of a movie star that people know who has zero chance of getting near the top 100?" "I know a guaranteed no-hoper".

Gary Oldman is the first of tonight's final countdown. #45, is it? Something like that.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oldman was #40. Marilyn Monroe is #39! Only one place above Gary Oldman! Surely her peerless iconic status should rate more than that.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

Katherine Hepburn at #38! Bette Davis went last night: so much for the great legends of the Hollywood golden age.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

37. Cate Blanchett, who I really like a lot, but i'm astonished.
36. Bogey! There have been 35 better movie stars than Bogey!!!
35. Bruce Willis officially better than Bogey.
34. Christopher Walken. I like him too, but ahead of Bogey, John Wayne, Monroe?
(good lord most of the people talking about these stars are hopeless. Paul Morley and for fuck's sake David Thompson are in there, and loads of fools!)
33. Nic Cage. Seems about the right level to me.
32. Tom Cruise. Can't say I'm a fan, but I thought he'd be higher.
31. Christopher Lee. Yep, about right.
30. Brando! There are 29 better than Brando! A colossal star, no better actors, hugely iconic, the sexiest actor ever and star of what many think is the greatest film of the last half-century! How is he only #30?

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

29. Julia Roberts. I thought she'd be higher too.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Tom Cruise and Bruce Willis are better than Bogart because they were both in better films: Die Hard and Top Gun (I am a huge fan of both of these two, actually. Funnily enough. And, much in the same way I'd have Pynchon over Shakespear any day, I'd take them over Humphrey Bogart.)

― Cozen (Cozen), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

where's DeVito dammit!?!

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

28. Denzel Washington. I wouldn't have put him so high.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

And who left out Moranis???

Morons...

― bert (bert), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

27. Morgan Freeman. Again, surprisingly high.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 5 May 2003 20:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

YEAH, MORANIS!

― Cozen (Cozen), Monday, 5 May 2003 20:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

26. Russell Crowe. I guess so.
25. Susan Sarandon. I'm happy enough to see her up here.
24. Dustin Hoffman. Fair enough, but I can't remember the last thing he was in that interested me.
23. Jodie Foster. Still, maybe not high enough. Has there been a better actress in recent decades?
22. Johnny Depp. I'm a fan, but I wouldn't have thought he ranked quite so high. I don't mind though.
21. Nicole Kidman - I thought she'd be the top recent actress.
20. Sigourney Weaver. Another I like, but I'm mildly surprised she's so high.
19. Robin Williams. I liked him well enough ages ago, but don't all the horrible films count for anything?
18. Clint Eastwood. About right.
17. Mel Gibson. Had to be high, I guess.
16. Paul Newman. About rigt, once more.
15. Brad Pitt. I'd have put him one place below Newman rather than one above, fi you see what I mean.
14. Steve McQueen. No objections, though I can't say I care much about his films.
13. Audrey Hepburn. No argument from me there.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 5 May 2003 21:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

12.James Stewart! Not in the top 10! I'm very, very surprised.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 5 May 2003 21:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

11. Samuel Jackson. I didn't realise anyone thought quite this highly of him, but he is excellent.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 5 May 2003 21:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Top ten tomorrow - I've set the vid and am going to bed. No Hanks, Grant, Garbo, Cagney, Henry Fonda yet.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 5 May 2003 21:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

nomastroianni

http://emmanuel.denis.free.fr/images/visconti146.JPG

― eriK, Tuesday, 6 May 2003 05:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

I fell asleep reading the Groundwater Diaries.

― kate, Tuesday, 6 May 2003 08:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

I didn't actually watch it, because I'm not a masochist. But:

10. Cary Grant
9. Ewan Mcgregor
8. Sean Connery
7. Anthony Hopkins
6. Jack Nicholson
5. Harrison Ford
4. Kevin Spacey
3. Tom Hanks
2. Robert de Niro
1. Al Pacino

I'm very surprised to see Spacey and Ford there, tbh. And I would probably swap 9 and 10 with 2 and 1. Not that I understand quite what the criteria were anyway...

― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 08:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

the entire purpose of the list was to expose toby young as a clown (this is laudable, in the sense that it is after all true, and cannot be said often enough — however as a denouement it lacked the element of surprise...)

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 08:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

haha top ten = all men = u r all gay

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 08:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

So not one single woman in the top ten, then? Is that a real list?

― kate, Tuesday, 6 May 2003 08:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Where was Charles Napier???

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 08:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

It was the kind of list you might expect Empire mag to run. I couldn't believe the slackjawed goons they got on there to comment on the choices: the film critic of the News of the World, some halfbaked media psychoanalyst, that annoying little twerp from Radio 1. The appalling tragedy was that they occasionally gave some time to the greatest living writer of English sentences - David Thomson - but edited him in such a way as that he never seemed to finish any of his sentences. Tragically, this format seems to be the only one BBC2/Ch4 can dream up for talking about popcult... and it doesn't look like changing any time soon.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 08:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

Where was Michael Crawford???

― Alfie (Alfie), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 09:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

A top ten without any women in it would be a travesty if this was any kind of meaningful list rather than a way for channel 4 to make cheap TV. Even so, it's depressing. Only 2 women even in the top TWENTY! What concept of 'star' are they working on here?

― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 09:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Where was Chow Yun Fat??? ;-)

''I couldn't believe the slackjawed goons they got on there to comment on the choices''

well yes you are always going to get that though morley did comment too and then there was that girl (whose name i forget) who used to present some foreign movies for BBC knowledge (this is pre BBC four days): she was pretty OK.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 09:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Also: Leslie Felperin - a mate of Mark S's? - has the most ROWR-y voice I have heard in a long time.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 09:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

yes that's the one i was talking abt. she did TV work for BBC knowledge. if mark s knows her he could inroduce me (her voice is great but a sight for sore eyes as well) ;-)

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 09:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

yes i know leslie v.well, tho i have not seen her in an age

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 09:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

*note to self: remind julio i am no longer his pimp*

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 09:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

:-(

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 09:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 09:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

she looked much better than that nick. much better!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 09:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

Was she as cute as Antonia Quirke?

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 09:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

The Pinefox and I briefly met AQ when we met up with David Thomson for a drink at the ICA a few months ago. She patronised me as though I were a sad fanboy.:( (As if!)

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 09:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sad fanboy of her or DT?

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 09:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

ps. How did you end up having a drink with David Thomson anyway, sad fanboy?

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 09:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

DT was giving a talk and we met up with him in the bar afterwards. I was asking DT about his biog of Laurence Sterne and AQ waltzed by and said "Are there any of his books you don't have?" in what I felt was an unnecessarily sniffy way :(

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 09:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

What - she was eavesdropping?

(You still have my 'Rosebud')

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 09:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

least plausible claim of the show: j.brown, "we met jack nicolson in someone's kitchen"

saddest moment in show: during feeble hagiography of nicholson, a lame ham lo these last 35 years, a glimpse of the sublime shelley duval, infinitely superior in the shining and largely wasted by hollywood

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 09:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

ARCHEL, EWAN MACGREGOR IS NOT THE SECOND GREATEST ACTOR EVER YOU FULE.

― Mark C (Mark C), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 09:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

IT'S 'MOVIE STAR' YOU DOPPELFULE.

(though, still)

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 10:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

why weren't you lot watching the snooker (I saw bits on sun and switched over to catch the top ten after the snooker)? we all knew the moviestars thing was gonna be shit.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 10:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

in movieworld saying "the past is more glamorous than the present" is merely a lame truism
in snookerworld it is a terrible fact

haha i wz mainly labelling unlabelled videos: this went buffy/buffy/buffy/buffy/buffy/buffy/buffy/.....

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 10:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

''in snookerworld it is a terrible fact''

I'm not an expert on glamour but its all abt playing standards mark. really. snooker is far more exciting now than even five/ten years ago.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 10:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

yes the higher the standards the more boring the game

(hence the death of billiards) (use other facts please 70s vintage)

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 10:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

no the higher the standards the closer the matches and therefore this is more exciting and nerve racking for the viewer (last year's final got more ppl watching than the FA cup).

didn't you know you liked snooker mark.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 10:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Thomson almost made it sound like Archie Leach had been a *pal*.

― the pinefox, Tuesday, 6 May 2003 10:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

that 'style writer' commentator in the red jumper was very creepy

dont think hopkins or spacey should have been in the top 10
(or even the top 75)

― Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 10:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

winslet/blanchett/weaver greater 'movie stars' than Liz Taylor ?

― Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 10:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

i thought hopkins and spacey were v.interesting and unexpected anomalies in the top ten, both being high-profile "character actors" (what wz the voting system?) (yes yes rigged, but how?)

i naturally find ppl whose careers are unfinished far more interesting than ppl who are dead and ca no longer evolve of their own volition eg no one had anything remotely interesting to say abt marilyn or bogart

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 10:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

how old is joe queenan btw? i tht he = same as me but he looks abt 65!!

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 10:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Although I do genuinely believe that Ewan is a star (YOU DELUDED FULE MARK) I still think there should be an immediate moratorium (hoho) on polls that include alive ppl. We shouldn't condemn (or elevate) Halle Berry to position 99 until she's cold in the grave, IMO.

― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 11:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

i saw jq on late review once and he came across as someone intent on never finding anything but his own jokes funny - probably a misreading of a very dry and deadpan manner, but quite offputting
he does like some comedy films, right ?

mark - yes 'anomalies' is the word ok !
(i 'imagined' the criteria to be asking a random sample of public 'name 10 of the greatest movie stars evah' - gives the big & famous names of old as iconic 'stars' regardless of acting quality/heartbeat status - but it was probably self-selecting phone-in volunteers and thus youth-skewed beyond the publics real age-demographic)
i can't imagine anyone naming anthony hopkins in a what-comes-to-mind list of 10 movie stars

(was greta garbo even in the list ?)

― Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 11:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

It was the usual method - shortlist determined by C4/'panel of experts', voted by phone and interweb by self-selectors.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 11:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

"panel of experts" clearly invalid since muthafuckah harvell not involved => steve guttenberg not shortlisted

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 11:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

I really thought that Ben Stiller had got number 2. I turned over to channel 4 at about 12, and there was a clip from "Meet the Parents", and I thought "this rules, Ben is either number one or two!". I presume it was on account of his great work in Mystery Men and Zoolander.

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 16:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

No Keaton, Marx Brothers or Laurel & Hardy. So much for comedy.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 17:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

Seriously, how'd al pacino win? The only film of his I've ever seen is Dick Tracy.

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 17:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

he has REALLY BIG EYES jel!!

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 17:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

and he speaks the loudest which, as everyone knows, = great acting.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 17:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Who's the most serious omission? Robert Mitchum? Considering it's as much about great icons as great actors, and he was both.

― James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 10:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

Robert Mitchum was possibly the biggest omission, him or Henry Fonda. On a popular vote of "actors" not "movie stars", Joe Pesci and Steve Buscemi would have come top 50 as well.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 10:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

If only they had used SCIENCE.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 11:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

(This query actually returns a very sensible list).

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 11:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

A bit of a weird list. Brando should obviously have been up there with DeNiro and Pacino, and I can't say I'm hugely familiar with the entire resume of Chaplin (yup, I do fail there) but as he revolutionised screen acting he should have been in the top 10. Same goes for Bogart. I'm surprised Jodie Foster or Susan Sarandon weren't recognised as the finest female performers of the contemporary period. I'd have put Ingrid Bergman higher, and Bogey deserved the top 10.

I never saw the whole list but no Chun Yow Fat? That's fucking insane! I bet they left out Barbara Steele, Bela Lugosi and Boris Karloff as well.

I cannot believe anyone with half a brain would think Top Gun or Die Hard are better films than Casablanca or actually vote for Arnalt Schwarzenneger, which simply beggard belief. I hate all his films (except maybe The Running Man which is kinda fun but no more or less entertaining than your average slasher movie).

― Calum, Wednesday, 7 May 2003 11:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Total Recall rox you moran.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 11:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Again, movie stars != great actors.

Nick's list is pretty good, apart from the mysterious Stella Screen.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 11:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Most glaring omission = Shahrukh Khan.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 14:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...

to me john wayne is the best. he as done so much in his 50 years of acting and if he could of lived longer there no tell what he could of done. Maybe even president

― reese, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 02:01 (nineteen years ago) link

fourteen years pass...

as i mentioned in the TCM thread, today is the centennial of Rita Hayworth's birth

http://thefilmexperience.net/blog/2018/10/17/beauty-break-happy-rita-hayworth-centennial.html

Fred Astaire called her his favorite dance partner!

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link

Funny looking at the original list now,

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/may/06/filmnews.arts

Costner wouldn't get a look in today IMO. Cruise/Downey would be way higher, McGregor/Depp/Hopkins way lower.

It's also now something of an er.. rogues gallery. Jesus check out number 4!?

― piscesx, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link

it's a listicle. what can I say.

― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:42 (five years ago) link

huh had forgotten I share bday with Rita

gorgeous but tragic figure obviously

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:48 (five years ago) link

HBD, Οὖτις

― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:55 (five years ago) link

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