I am liking this season way more than I expected. Yes, it can be a bit like CI at times (Rene Balcer is writing this season, and he ran the first five years of CI), but for the first time possibly this decade, I find all six leads really good and complementary to each other.
― Michael F Gill, Thursday, 14 February 2008 06:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Jeremy Sisto and the new additions on the DA side are excellent. I was convinced the show had just about run its course (I had only been watching SVU for the last two seasons, really). But now it's good tv again!
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 14 February 2008 06:35 (sixteen years ago) link
JACK MCCOY ON THE STAND
― gff, Thursday, 14 February 2008 06:44 (sixteen years ago) link
DEFENDING LIBERALISM
yeah shit is way out in the open this season, and it has been for a while... it's the svu-ification of the whole franchise
― gff, Thursday, 14 February 2008 06:45 (sixteen years ago) link
lolz at 'now I know why Adam Schiff was so grumpy"
and Linus Roache, who played RFK, giving McCoy an RFK tie pin.
― tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 14 February 2008 12:35 (sixteen years ago) link
last week's "are you a socks on or socks off guy?" was funny.
― tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 14 February 2008 12:37 (sixteen years ago) link
i guess that this season will end up on sky some time around 2017 :(
― DG, Thursday, 14 February 2008 12:37 (sixteen years ago) link
was the evil ADA the guy from Mad About You?
― dan selzer, Thursday, 14 February 2008 14:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Linus Roache looks too much like Ken Barlow. It's weirding me out, I keep dreading Deidre showing up.
― Nicole, Thursday, 14 February 2008 14:49 (sixteen years ago) link
God the crossexaminations are the worst they've ever been. Not only no actual courtroom craft - just arguing & speechifyin', no fillip, no nothin'. Don't get me wrong, I'd still watch even if everybody just grunted unintelligibly, I'm set in my ways, but the whole 2nd half last night was garbage except for Waterston.
― J0hn D., Thursday, 14 February 2008 17:14 (sixteen years ago) link
who is the new lady lawyer, she's a babe.
― bell_labs, Thursday, 14 February 2008 17:16 (sixteen years ago) link
all new ADAs are an insult to the blessed memory of Claire Kincaid
― J0hn D., Thursday, 14 February 2008 17:17 (sixteen years ago) link
there oughta just be a bottle of Hennessy in the ADA's chair, every week
damn no-respect casting agents
i remember back in the old old days when the innovation was how dry and legalistic the show actually was -- anti-pretty mason but still hella exciting! now it's very perry mason; this is the second episode of the new season that's involved the DA getting and on-the-stand breakdown out of a witness.
xp no doubt! "alana de la garza" is her name, if you can believe it. odd that they found someone who looks so much like annie parisse.
xxp rip
― gff, Thursday, 14 February 2008 17:18 (sixteen years ago) link
the only ada i really didn't like was elizabeth rohm.
― bell_labs, Thursday, 14 February 2008 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link
She is the Anti-Kincaid.
― tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 14 February 2008 17:23 (sixteen years ago) link
homophobes
― DG, Thursday, 14 February 2008 17:24 (sixteen years ago) link
heh
― gff, Thursday, 14 February 2008 17:25 (sixteen years ago) link
was there ever ANY hint she was gay until that last episode? it was awkward.
― bell_labs, Thursday, 14 February 2008 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link
kind of a "poochie has decided to return to his home planet now" moment
― bell_labs, Thursday, 14 February 2008 17:27 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.brandonbird.com/folding_valentines_detail.jpg
― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 14 February 2008 17:30 (sixteen years ago) link
I love how they used to do that, though! Dry and legalistic and then suddenly some bit of personal life peeks in for a second. Best one = wasn't there some offhand suggestion that McCoy was always getting on his ADAs? Which doubles as a handy excuse for why they all look like that.
― nabisco, Thursday, 14 February 2008 19:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Also the time Bratt was like "hold on, phone call ... oh, my wife has M.S. Well, better go interview that other suspect..."
― nabisco, Thursday, 14 February 2008 19:49 (sixteen years ago) link
mccoy got with every ADA up to serena right?
― bell_labs, Thursday, 14 February 2008 19:54 (sixteen years ago) link
In the beginning, he is also a notorious womanizer, having had sexual relationships with four of his female assistants.[1] However, this has often blown up in his face: one such assistant, Diana Hawthorne, is found to have suppressed evidence so they could win a case (L&O: "Trophy"); another, Claire Kincaid, is killed in a car accident (L&O: "Aftershock"). Defense attorneys have used this against him (L&O: "Missing"). In 2007, the Saturday Night Live "Weekend Update" segment humorously described the relationship of Jack McCoy with whoever is the current A.D.A. as "teaching cynicism to a supermodel." Since Kincaid's death, McCoy has kept his relationships with assistants professional, although he nurtures friendships with all of them.
― max, Thursday, 14 February 2008 19:57 (sixteen years ago) link
'nurture' is a pretty gross word imo
― gff, Thursday, 14 February 2008 20:09 (sixteen years ago) link
TS: nature vs nurture
― DG, Thursday, 14 February 2008 20:10 (sixteen years ago) link
when did he ever get with Claire? Claire had a relationship with one of the judges that she clerked for before she became an ADA but I don't think she hooked up with McCoy
― J0hn D., Thursday, 14 February 2008 20:35 (sixteen years ago) link
wow I'm past help huh
Haha not at all, I totally remember that one. She then resigned in the course of proving that he had harassed Jane Kazmarek's children after a failed affair
― nabisco, Thursday, 14 February 2008 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link
SHIT
Jesse Martin's leaving: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080221/tv_nm/law_dc
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 21 February 2008 07:25 (sixteen years ago) link
But he's being replaced by Anthony Anderson? I'd call that an upgrade.
― The Yellow Kid, Thursday, 21 February 2008 08:02 (sixteen years ago) link
u crazy
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 21 February 2008 08:20 (sixteen years ago) link
o damn i didn't know that!! so long ed green! anthony anderson tho, so it should be fine.
aaaanyway i came to post this, which is some o_O type shit
http://allthingslawandorder.blogspot.com/
― gff, Monday, 3 March 2008 04:51 (sixteen years ago) link
uh "i like anthony anderson, tho"
― gff, Monday, 3 March 2008 04:52 (sixteen years ago) link
"Claire had a relationship with one of the judges that she clerked for before she became an ADA but I don't think she hooked up with McCoy"
There are a few references to her sleeping with Jack, one of which came in the episode about one of Jack's previous assistants, Diana Hawthorne, with whom he was also sleeping. I thought that Claire was the last one he slept with, what with Jamie being too smart and sensible (plus being totally out-of-his-league gorgeous) and Angie Harmon (I forget her character's name at the moment) abstaining for the same reasons :). I may be wrong--it's hard to remember all 8243 episodes.
I also agree with whoever upthread said that he loved getting just the smallest offhand nugget about their personal lives. That was always so exciting when it happened!
― craven, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 16:11 (sixteen years ago) link
WTF happened to Lara Flynn Boyle's face?
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 13 March 2008 03:41 (sixteen years ago) link
i couldn't really see it cause my reception is bad. this ep was DUD. rly god ci rerun on right now - the OTHER "the practice" chick was mr. big's neighbor and jumped/was pushed off roof!
― tehresa, Thursday, 13 March 2008 03:42 (sixteen years ago) link
bah the orig is like ci now, do not want
― gff, Thursday, 13 March 2008 03:57 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm kind of addicted to this show now all of a sudden (especially CI w/ Goren & Eeams, and the original with Jesse Martin and S Epetha...).Is there anywhere I can watch it online?
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link
I dunno about online, but TNT shows about 10 L&O episodes a day, and USA Network does the same with L&O-CI. I can't remember who shows all the L&O-SVU reruns...maybe Bravo or A&E? SVU's still my favorite.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link
USA is your home for SVU reruns
― gff, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:24 (sixteen years ago) link
i have to say i may be slowly losing my taste for this stuff (perish the thought).
i remember back in the michael moriarty and early waterston days when it was a pretty realistic crime procedural -- the innovation being a heavy emphasis on lawyering w/o a lot of matlock or perry mason style courtroom theatrics. + the politics were left-liberal but pretty sly and restrained. that's all pretty much gone.
― gff, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link
I think you might have lost your taste for it even faster if they didn't monkey around with the formula a little. After all, this is L&O's 18th or 19th season...can you imagine the show still being like it was when Noth and Sorvino were the detectives?
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah maybe yr right. but the ep last night was about a 'christian madrassa' that made a kid stone his mom to death. the mom, incidentally, was on a terror watch list entirely because the fbi is a bunch of illiterate, politicized morons. the head pastor, of course, flips out on the stand about needing to train warriors to destroy islam. it's a bit much.
― gff, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link
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― nabisco, Friday, 20 June 2008 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Law & Order is highly preferable to most true crime shows when it was far more gritty and realistic and I've sort of been in love with Vincent D'Onofrio for a while now plus L&O:CI is far more 'intellectually intense' when you're drunk and its a lazy Friday arvo. SVU has gotten silly and the repeats are erratic. I really miss the days of Orbach, he was pretty decent and straight. I love Munch and the utter hypocrisy that is Ice Cube...Also what happened to Homicide Life On The Streets that was otm. New UK epis are hard to get here, Jeremy Sisto is on there? I loves him. I really, really liked Kidnapped but it got cancelled.
― VeronaInTheClub, Friday, 20 June 2008 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link
I saw Sam Wasterson in Great Barrington eating sushi.
I thought about getting his autograph while reciting the "Inthe criminal justice system the people are.." but I just let him eat sushi.
It's weird, though, how much I THINK I know him. I felt like I could discuss a case with him.
it's like being a soap opera fan.
― aimurchie, Friday, 20 June 2008 17:03 (fifteen years ago) link
I really felt like I could discuss a case - but, without my L&O battery of factoids at hand...I thought it best to let him eat sushi.
Sam Wasterson is famous for his depictions of Abraham Lincoln. he does regional theater stuff playing Abe.
I think that's the coolest career ever. Jack but also Abe.
― aimurchie, Friday, 20 June 2008 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link