New Ren & Stimpy

Only paradise wasn't really paradise to begin with, unless you were really fond of TNN's fishing shows.

I kiss you, Ned! I kiss you with tongues!

John K. got fired and suddenly the whole show just revolved around the gross-out humor and shocking strangeness. It didn't reflect any reality anymore. Ren was just an asshole and Stimpy was just retarded (Funny, these were the exact words of John K. as he described the new series: "Ren is still an asshole and Stimpy is still retarded.")

Well, without spoilers, it's hard for me to explain why this is so wrong, but Ren & Stimpy is now all the things it was without John K., when the show first started sucking. It's just a little raunchier version of the gross-out humor and pointless strangeness that killed the show the first time around. The characters have no character anymore. They're just hollow wind-up toys that do whatever anybody can think up that seems gross or shocking.

South Park is way more interesting. John K.'s superhero thing he had on Fox last year on Saturday morning's really sucked, too. I think he's totally lost it.

Also, Funkmaster Flex laughing. Good point.

Recently, my boyfriend CHAKI* forced me to endure the new Ren and Stimpy on some crap new cable station. To those of you thinking, "Hey there, Roger. You knew it was gunna be bad," I acknowledge that completely. I must say, it was like attending the viewing at a funeral, regretfully, having rather remembered the person in life than in the casket.

The slow-pacedness, non-stop stereotypical gay/shit/vomit jokes, and the portrayal of an explicitly homosexual relationship between the two characters were painful. The undertones of a more than just friends relationship in the original program made the original program. This new project however, was purely unnecessary, unfunny smut. The quirkiness, the bizarre, the innuendo, the sharp wit, the insight, the depth of character.. nowhere to be found here.

My memories of being 8-12 and enjoying Ren and Stimpy haven't been soiled completely, but I'm a tad scarred.

This is so many million times sadder than the digitized Fred Astaire dancing with a Dirt Devil vacuum cleaner.

(sniffle)

And I'm old.

Chaki you horrid man, apologize to her.

From http://dvd.ign.com/articles/555/555229p1.html:

Some Ren & Stimpy fans are not singing "Happy happy joy joy" over reports that the season one and two DVD set coming from Paramount next week are, in fact, edited. Although the box says "Uncut," some scenes have had segments snipped.

The scenes are mostly innocuous -- in Son of Stimpy, the scene where Ren says "Here's your Christmas present, Stimpy. I hope you like it... wherever you are." is gone. Yet the more controversial scenes, such as George Liquor's name and two scenes in Sven Hoek are back.

The cuts are also noticeable. When you reach a cut, the video quickly fades to black and then comes back to the next scene. Some times, it happens even when there isn't cut, it just happens.

According to Paramount, series creator John Kricfalusi personally supervised the edits of the DVDs, and that the cuts were made years earlier, and there's simply no telling what happened to the cuts. Someone apparently swept the cutting room floor and emptied the trash.

So Kricfalusi addressed the issue in a letter on The Loyal Order of Stupids, a R&S fan site. In it, he said "Blame Nickelodeon years ago! Don't blame the producers of the DVD. We put back every scene that I was aware was missing. Nick must have cut more scenes out long after I stopped watching the show..."

He went on to say "If every show is not completely intact it's because long ago Nick misplaced or lost the originals, but I restored the ones I knew had cuts, ok?"

For fans in the L.A. area, John K. will be signing copies of the DVDs at the Virgin Records Megastore at the corner of Sunset Blvd. and Crescent Heights Ave. on Tuesday, October 12, from 7 to 9 pm.

Ren & Stimpy were great.

Netflixing the first two seasons after watching a few old clips from youtube that actually are as great as I remember, if not better (especially Space Madness).

Incidentally, I keep feeling like I see some kind of Philip Guston influence in the animation -- maybe at least in the color palette? Anyone know whether John K ever mentioned Guston as an influence?

Space Madness and Stimpy's Invention were my favorite episodes.

Stimpy's Invention is one of the best cartoons of our time.

While Seasons 3 and after are definitely not as good as the first two seasons, they are not "awful" per se, but disappointing.

And the recent DVD set of the more "adult" Ren & Stimpy cartoons are not as good as the first two seasons either, but they are funny and very strange. Hit or miss, but far more hits than the Game Productions produced ones.

The one where Ren seeks help is the most fucked up Ren & Stimpy ever. It's not the best ever episode but a good one. Also the house building one is great, as is "Fire Dogs Part II" i.e. the Ralph Bashki episode. The guy who does Stimpy's voice is scarily close to Billy West's.

Also, Sven Hoek and Powdered Toast Man (the episode) are close runner ups.

This is not good.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/arianelange/john-kricfalusi-ren-stimpy-underage-sexual-abuse

ahh ffs :(

Where did I get the impression John K was gay? I definitely didn't come up with that myself. Somebody told me that and I just believed them because why not. WTF.

If you'd like to support one of the women who came forward:

https://www.patreon.com/katiejrice

What sucks is that EB had to have known about this and yet she did a thing with him last year which in retrospect is creepy AF:

Not to mention, she’s teamed up once again with John Kricfalusi (Ren and Stimpy) to develop a new comedic music cartoon for pre-teen girls that centers on an in-progress band and reveals “the secret life of girls and their sense of humor.”

from: https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/8039633/jack-white-childrens-book-illustrator-elinor-blake-interview

this is horrible and sickening, i guess john k doesn't have much of a career to ruin at this point but to hell w/ him forever

weirdly i was just telling someone last night about the early '00s R&S reboot and how gross and depressing it was

Horrible, sickening and (I hate to say it) not all that surprising. Sody Pop was basically this in animated form.

Still love the first couple seasons of R&S, but yeah, to hell w/ John K forever.

aw fuck, this is horrifying.