Now, I hate Chelsea, as much if not more than I hate Arsenal. Hating Chelsea is just what I do, despite me liking and admiring a handful of their players. So the fact that a genuinely exciting and amazing Champions League contending Chelsea team is now a real possibility annoys me somewhat. Mostly because I think "he could have bought Spurs!" but also because I can see them playing mouthwatering Real Madrid-esque football just a couple of seasons down the line.
So, post-Abramovich Chelsea - death of football or the dawn of a great new era? And what will happen to the Chelsea old guard, with Gudjohnsen, Hasselbaink, Stanic, Lampard, Le Saux, Gronkjaer and a boatload of others all likely to look surplus to requirements in the near future?
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― chris (chris), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:09 (twenty-two years ago)
Abramovich looks into signing some Manchester chancer.
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mark C (Mark C), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)
I assume you mean Vieri, Ronaldinho etc ... Abramovich has largely been bidding for the best players in the world (well those not covetted by Real Madrid) and naturally these players want to play for the top teams. Chelsea do not have the perception of being one of these elite clubs (yet). A good showing in this seasons Champions League will change this. They will come - only later rather than sooner.
The interest shown in young British talent (Johnson, Duff, Bridge)is heartening - so hopefully the likes of Lampard and Carlton Cole will not be frozen out.
oh, and I hate Spurs, as much if not more than I hate Arsenal :)
― David_X (David_X), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jonnie, Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)
i think Jody Morris to Cardiff is a good fit all round - good for Cardiff as he is a fine player, good for Jody in the big fish/small pond way. can't wait for the first niteclub incident.
― David_X (David_X), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― chris (chris), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― David_X (David_X), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)
Dr C - can you really see Abramovich spunking a load of cash all over Stamford Bridge and then buggering off? I mean, he may be one of the richest men in the world but it's hardly pocket change to him, is it?
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― David_X (David_X), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)
So, Abramovich is Supa Ultra Rich? can't see any development really. buying 'the best players in the world' doesnt make you the best team in the world. It just gives you a team full of coke-addicts.
and, as pointed out earlier, why would these players really want to go to chelsea, other than for naked greed? ambition ?!?!??!!?
― ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― G-String, Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lars (Nicole), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― chris (chris), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:25 (twenty-two years ago)
Anyway G, your players are always splashed over the papers. Admittedly it's either that they are being sold or that they have been making unsavoury holiday videos.....
― chris (chris), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)
it's certainly making my pre-season.
― David_X (David_X), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― chris (chris), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)
It's all very well lining up Lazio, but you can't pop down to Lakeside afterwards, can you?
― G-String, Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jonnie, Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)
I'd be so happy if some rich person bought Bristol Rovers. Doesn't have to be billionaire rich - someone who gives us security and gets us so we aren't having to sell every decent player we find/develop would be fine.
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― gareth (gareth), Friday, 25 July 2003 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)
duff looked great in the last 30mins against malaysia. his link-up with jimmy and eidur already has me drooling
latest rumour is that another attempt was made to sign raul. (he said no).
― David_X (David_X), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 25 July 2003 17:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 25 July 2003 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― chris (chris), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 12:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― chris (chris), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 16:14 (twenty-two years ago)
why? i should imagine he's quite chuffed at being in the Champions League QF (not to mention sitting 2nd in the prem), his personal conribution to the team has been acclaimed by pretty much everyone. when he's fit he plays. don't see the problem really. if you are thinking about the arrival of Robben - there is no reason why they can't play in the same side. Both are as effective through the middle as on the left (very much in the giggs mould)
who will leave? petit, jimmy, stanic, melchiot ... not joe cole (just the usual tabloid bollox).
who will come? a right-sided midfielder/winger(joachim/nedved/beckham pls mr abramovich) and a right back. (oh and if liverpool implode then owen.)
― David_X (David_X), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― pete s, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 11 March 2004 10:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 11 March 2004 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― chris (chris), Thursday, 11 March 2004 13:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 11 March 2004 13:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 11 March 2004 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)
hahaha
I so wanted Hartson to reenact that when he came to Celtic Park - it was however the easiest way to get shot of Berkovic without actually sacking him for being a lazy useless git...
― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 12 March 2004 00:41 (twenty-two years ago)
The likely scenario is that we'll end up with a situation where younger players will plump for United, Liverpool or even Newcastle as opposed to Chelsea for the sake of their own career.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 12 March 2004 09:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Friday, 22 October 2004 08:18 (twenty-one years ago)
"I have to admit that in the heat of our confrontation I did actually threaten Mourinho about what would happen if he ever went to Romania," said Mutu.
"In a moment of total madness, I almost hit him, too. But now I am calmer and I must say I have nothing against the coach."
good lord.
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 22 October 2004 08:18 (twenty-one years ago)
i'm sad that mutu may be leaving the premiership soon. he seems like an entertaining sort of fellow.
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 22 October 2004 08:20 (twenty-one years ago)
*applications welcome.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 22 October 2004 08:27 (twenty-one years ago)
COKE-SNORTING MUTU SUCKED MY BLOOD
Yay!
― Pete W (peterw), Friday, 22 October 2004 09:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 30 October 2004 07:54 (twenty-one years ago)
during that time he has scored 6 times
during those 1046 minutes, chelsea have conceded ONE goal.
― charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)
"If you have the prestige of having been in premiership management for 10 years and had been sucessful, you can get away with your players swearing and scruffling in the tunnels and on the pitch, and headbutting people, whereas if you've just come from Europe.. etc"
― ken c (ken c), Friday, 4 February 2005 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Friday, 4 February 2005 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― Pete W (peterw), Friday, 4 February 2005 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 7 May 2005 12:25 (twenty-one years ago)
(This thread should be revived often so we can read about the imminent surplusness of Lampard)
― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Saturday, 7 May 2005 12:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 7 May 2005 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 7 May 2005 12:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 7 May 2005 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ally C (Ally C), Saturday, 7 May 2005 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 7 May 2005 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Pete W (peterw), Saturday, 7 May 2005 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)
i was delighted to see him score though. i think his best asset is his positional sense - he always seems to be sitting in the perfect spot in front of the defence to make an interception or close down an oncoming attack. it can be awe-inspiring to see that sort of footballing intelligence at work, though i guess it's not as aesthetically pleasing as other football skills.
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Saturday, 7 May 2005 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 7 May 2005 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― mason storm (mason storm), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:53 (twenty years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:58 (twenty years ago)
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― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 22:12 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 22:14 (twenty years ago)
Eh? So football began in 1992 with the Premiership, presumably.
Erm... Alba - either you or me are on the wrong thread.
― Teh HoBBercraft (the pirate king), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 22:14 (twenty years ago)
― pleased to mitya (mitya), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 22:43 (twenty years ago)
Dear Chelsea fans,
When Roman A withdraws support from Chelsea in a few years time and demands his £850 million loan back within eighteen months, what are you going to call the team formed from the club's ashes that'll have to start in Combined Counties League? Chelsea Blues 1905 FC?
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 22 May 2008 13:38 (eighteen years ago)
Fulham Reserves
― Tom D., Thursday, 22 May 2008 13:41 (eighteen years ago)
Remember when we all thought Chelsea were going to be this unstoppable force in English football and win the League every single season for the next 50 years?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 22 May 2008 13:43 (eighteen years ago)
no. it was obvious what would happen!
― blueski, Thursday, 22 May 2008 13:45 (eighteen years ago)
Wonder if any of the Chelsea players will pull an Angelo DiLivio and keep playing for the club, in a lower division, with a 95% pay cut.
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 22 May 2008 13:46 (eighteen years ago)
SWP, maybe.
i was getting a bit nostalgic for Mourinho's first Chelsea last night tho - Duff, Gudjohnsen, Robben's first 6 months...
― blueski, Thursday, 22 May 2008 13:49 (eighteen years ago)
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― Billy Dods, Thursday, 22 May 2008 13:52 (eighteen years ago)
So the fact that a genuinely exciting and amazing Champions League contending Chelsea team is now a real possibility annoys me somewhat. Mostly because I think "he could have bought Spurs!" but also because I can see them playing mouthwatering Real Madrid-esque football just a couple of seasons down the line.
jesus, i mean we all thought this a little, but who writes it down??
― darraghmac, Thursday, 22 May 2008 13:55 (eighteen years ago)
just think, you could've paid £32m for Bent
― blueski, Thursday, 22 May 2008 13:56 (eighteen years ago)
berbatov on the bench behind shevchenko oh christ.
― darraghmac, Thursday, 22 May 2008 13:56 (eighteen years ago)
Why is Jodie Morris going to Cardiff? -- chris (chris), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:09 (4 years ago) Bookmark Link
^^^true human cost of the Abramovich years.
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 22 May 2008 14:00 (eighteen years ago)
5 years of this. Wow.
― Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 22 May 2008 14:02 (eighteen years ago)
but also because I can see them playing mouthwatering Real Madrid-esque football just a couple of seasons down the line
That obviously went out the window as soon as Mourinho was appointed
― Tom D., Thursday, 22 May 2008 14:02 (eighteen years ago)
I dunno, that first season with him managing was quite exciting, wasn't it?
― Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 22 May 2008 14:07 (eighteen years ago)
no
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Thursday, 22 May 2008 14:08 (eighteen years ago)
i think it was
they were involved in some fairly exciting games - carling cup final, barcelona and bayern in the champions league spring to mind
― blueski, Thursday, 22 May 2008 14:10 (eighteen years ago)
exciting? yes. mouthwatering football? notsomuch.
― Upt0eleven, Thursday, 22 May 2008 14:12 (eighteen years ago)
They had Robben and played him properly; the 4-3-3 formation, wasn't it? I quite like that as an attacking formation.
Exciting football with lots of goals IS mouthwatering, isn't it?
― Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 22 May 2008 14:13 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah Robben and Duff as a pair of proper flying wingers were great to watch.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 22 May 2008 14:14 (eighteen years ago)
Chelsea 2 (1) - 2(0) Bolton Duff 1 Tiago 48 Davies 52 Jaidi 87 on 20-11-2004
Bolton v good at gettign a point at Stamford Bridge
Arsenal 2 (2) - 2(1) Chelsea Henry 2 Terry 17 Henry 29 Gudjohnsen 46 on 12-12-2004
i can't remember anything about this - and had forgotten all about Tiago
― blueski, Thursday, 22 May 2008 14:14 (eighteen years ago)
Was that when Henry took the quick free kick?
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Thursday, 22 May 2008 14:15 (eighteen years ago)
this one is quite telling:
Fulham 1 (0) - 4(1) Chelsea Diop 57 Lampard 33 Robben 59 Gallas 73 Tiago 81 on 13-11-2004
sitting on the game at 1-0 until plucky Fulham draw level and then it's like flipping a switch. cynical bastads.
― blueski, Thursday, 22 May 2008 14:18 (eighteen years ago)
13/11/04 - without checking, would that be the same weekend as B'ham 0-1 Everton (Gravesen pen) and L'pool 3-2 C Palace (two Baros pens)? Have a memory of listening to Fulham-Chelsea on the radio, driving back from Sefton Park.
I recall Chelsea beating someone 5-1 away that season (Bolton?) from 1-0 down at half-time; Mourinho just shifted things around.
― Michael Jones, Thursday, 22 May 2008 15:34 (eighteen years ago)