BALTIMORE FAP AUGUST 2003

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Well I'm right down the street, Colin Meeder's in town, Chris V. is going to be in town, and maybe we can scare up some lurkers, I dunno. This is where we chatter about what we might be able to do on the first weekend of August in Baltimore.

Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Can we go to the Wharf Rat?

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Can I drive your car?

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha. Sure.

Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, I'm in!

PS it might end up in a ditch, sorry in advance.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

It'll be my birthday the first week of August - and I will be in Baltimore. Awesome.

Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Sweet, I think this adds up to Max's on Broadway (UPSTAIRS!!!)

Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Dig it, you other saddos can webcam us

Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I say we do Fells Point -- dinner at John Stevens, then hit Max's and various other fabulous places.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 21:39 (twenty-two years ago)

McCabe and Gardner to thread!

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I love The Wire!

James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm in for the Fells Point Colin Meeder expedition, assuming that Millar doesn't take the reins and lead us to the Baltimore equivalent of Boat. Oh wait, since I'm the out-of-towner, looks like I can be the one directing traffic.

stillbitterafterallthistime (Mary), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 21:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Baltimore has no equivalent of Boat.

Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 22:00 (twenty-two years ago)

They have no jukeboxes anywhere near that indie

Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 22:00 (twenty-two years ago)

What about that Jamaica restaurant right near the Charles Theater that is obv. a drug front? I had some good stories from there a few months ago.

Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 15 July 2003 22:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm safe then. Count me in. I love Baltimore. Will this be on a Sat. or what?

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Fells Point...Sound Garden...mmm....

*my credit card recoils in horror*

Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 15 July 2003 22:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd like to wait until we can get Chris V to weigh in, I wager those of us down here are more flexible

Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 22:12 (twenty-two years ago)

A bit old, but Baltimore by Night

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/music/balto.htm

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

this might be doable, depending on the timing and logistics of course.

Tad (llamasfur), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Give me a more specific date and I might be able to work with you. (CSC is offering me work for the next 2-3 weeks solid.)

j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Friday the 1st or Saturday the 2nd. I could swing both nights if we need to accomodate people or want to have extra fun.

Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 22:28 (twenty-two years ago)

The Baltimore equivalent of Boat is the Mt. Royal Tavern, but the juke box is even cooler.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)

So many of those places in the Post article are closed now, and the Ottobar didn't even exist then.

Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 15 July 2003 22:31 (twenty-two years ago)

thanks for the dates, millar. the 1st of Sept. is labor day, yes?

Tad (llamasfur), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 22:31 (twenty-two years ago)

We're talking abt August though

Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)

oh, ok. thanks for clearing that up!

Tad (llamasfur), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 22:39 (twenty-two years ago)

culture

http://www.artbma.org/

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)

i must go here

http://www.thewalters.org/

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.avam.org/

This is place is the SHIT.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 22:57 (twenty-two years ago)

cool, thanks! what are the cool coffee shops and bookstores?

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 23:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Mary! You will come with me! Yay! We should think of clothes now so I can remember to wash them.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 00:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I could do it anytime after aug 10th.

A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 02:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Is there a beach we could go to? I really want to go to the beach. Also zoos and amusement parks but if that can't be worked in I'll survive.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 02:39 (twenty-two years ago)

There's Ocean City, Dewey and Rehoboth, of course. (I'll leave my Delmarvic Dreaming, and its Colonial Corollary, for another thread.)

hmm. I'm thinking about being in Philly for a icthyological event on the evening of the 31st. And I'm hoping to spend a weekend in DC some time in August. And Balto is on the way. Will probably never happen.

the "in the home of the terrapins" FAP?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 03:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Beeeeeaaaach here I come. I miss going to the beach now that Rockapulco has been all torn up and worked on :(

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 03:20 (twenty-two years ago)

The ocean is about two hours away and there is no public transportation available. There are, however, seedy and cool little beaches on the Bay or the Patapsco or whatever.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 03:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not picky!

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 03:30 (twenty-two years ago)

There is an acquarium. I don't remember Ocean City, Rehobeth and Dewey being very bling bling from my childhood. I vote for the seedy beaches that Colin recommends. Or we could go to Annapolis and looks at the Navel cadets.

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 04:05 (twenty-two years ago)

rehoboth beath used to be as philly's version of fire island/provincetown. i.e., very gay.

Tad (llamasfur), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 04:10 (twenty-two years ago)

or that's what my uncle jake told me.

Tad (llamasfur), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 04:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Rehoboth was my mom's favorite beach. We preferred Virginia Beach.

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 04:27 (twenty-two years ago)

My mom now summers at Fenwick Island.

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 04:28 (twenty-two years ago)

i failed at this

gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 05:56 (twenty-two years ago)

how did you fail?

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 06:03 (twenty-two years ago)

i thought i had tried to arrange a fap. maybe that was another thread. maybe i failed at remembering to attempt a fap.

gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 06:11 (twenty-two years ago)

that's an elvis song I think

James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 06:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, I did not know there are any ILXors in Baltimore. All I'm saying is I want CRABCAKES! I will be there Aug 2, at Camden Yards for the Sox/Orioles game which starts at 7:05, hopefully the Sox will make quick work of them and I'll be done by 10. I will be there with my attorney and accountant, who are two of the nerdiest guys you'll ever meet. I do want to meet up with you all! Whats close to Camden?

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 10:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Sarah and I will have just been there the weekend before, but maybe we can make a special trip to come back up for a FAP. My band will be playing at the Talking Head in Baltimore on the 25th (Fri) with Slow Jets if anyone will be there then.

NA. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 12:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Sarah and I will have just been there the weekend before, but maybe we can make a special trip to come back up for a FAP. My band will be playing at the Talking Head in Baltimore on the 25th of July (Fri) with Slow Jets if anyone will be there then.

NA. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Everyone plz send cell #s to Ally or to my SECRET CODETANK email address listed above so we can not fuck this up. Thank you goodnight.

Millar (Millar), Friday, 1 August 2003 02:57 (twenty-two years ago)

IT'S ON.

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Friday, 1 August 2003 12:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay, we're taking off. We'll be UPSTAIRS, unless we're downstairs.

Millar (Millar), Friday, 1 August 2003 23:31 (twenty-two years ago)

HOLY SHIT how are we still alive? details tomorrow!! Girolamo is sworn to secrecy!!

Millar (Millar), Saturday, 2 August 2003 07:25 (twenty-two years ago)

P.S. SUCKAS!!!!

Millar (Millar), Saturday, 2 August 2003 07:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I AM NEVER GETTING DRUNK AGAIN.

That being said, the FAP was awesome! I rate it 11/10.

Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, 2 August 2003 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

BTW, where are the pics?

Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, 2 August 2003 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Details!

Mary (Mary), Saturday, 2 August 2003 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

8:32pm Ally, Luke & I took off to grab some Wendy's for dinner and pick up Helltime Producto.

Arrived at Max's, went upstairs, met Girolamo. Sat down. Started easy with Newcastle, Sierra Nevada, etc.

Friends arrived. Matt, Nikki, Anthony, Nick. Chainsmoking begins in earnest.

At some point I bought a Chimay for myself and shortly thereafter everybody started getting them. Max's has Chimay on draft and serves it in big glass goblets. If you've ever had Chimay you can probably imagine what the evening turned into. The pictures are fucking astounding. Serious camera abuse going on last night.

After 2:00am bar close we wandered back to the car and started riding home. Luke bounced over a 6" median because he was looking for a street sign and didn't expect it. WHAM. Blew left front tire completely flat. Luke bought the car used and it turns out he has no tire iron. Helltime, Luke and I stand outside the car trying to get help. Ally passes out in backseat. A giant blue truck driven by two heaven-sent Texan mechanics pulls into the parking lot where we stopped. They get out, open the tool case, grab two Budweisers and get to work, pro bono. God has special plans for my friends and I, I kid you not.

After an hour of grunting and cranking we finally get the spare attached, the two Texans disappear into the ether from whence they came, and we are back on the road. We get home and pass the fuck out.

The rest of the story is in the pictures. Should be up soon enough.

Millar (Millar), Saturday, 2 August 2003 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

No Colin Meeder?

Mary (Mary), Saturday, 2 August 2003 19:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Chimay!

Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, 2 August 2003 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Fuck - it killed my fake HTML tags!

Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, 2 August 2003 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)

it is unacceptable that this occured without my presence:(

gareth (gareth), Saturday, 2 August 2003 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Gareth -no sweat. Next time you come over we're going to play "Forty Hands." You get two 40s of malt liquor and tape them to your hands. You only get to take them off when you're finished. It's going to be awesome.

Millar (Millar), Sunday, 3 August 2003 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Q: what if you have to pee?
A: well, that's why you try to favour one of your hands over the other.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 3 August 2003 09:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Boy, I fucking lamed out on this one.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 3 August 2003 17:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Mary's response is brilliant. I sustained head trauma during our car accident and also threw up while they were jacking the car but apparently no one noticed me do that.

I am never touching that Chimay shit again, it's laced with something.

Also, FYI to everyone, Metropark NJ doesn't really exist. It is a life-sucking vortex which forces you to sit around for about 2 hours after you leave it, refusing to let you pass from NJ into NYC. Four times this has happened to me!! Fuck that amtrak bullshit, I'm taking a bus from now on.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 4 August 2003 03:34 (twenty-two years ago)

metropark does indeed suck (it's in iselin/edison, which is hand's down the worst part of NJ). but how on earth did you get stuck there? i mean, if you took amtrak then you should've been able to go straight on to NY Penn Station?!?

Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 4 August 2003 05:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I was in New York, actually. :(

Colin Meeder (Mert), Monday, 4 August 2003 07:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Tad, the Amtrak stops in Metropark, then Newark! What are you talking about, going straight to Penn Station? Do you own a teleporter?

I just saw the pix and I don't even know wtf is going on with them. They are amazing and I don't remember a single one of them. Goddamn Chimay.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 4 August 2003 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

It goes through Metropark, but it doesn't usually have problems continuing on its merry way to Penn Station. What happened Ally? Welcome back!

Mary (Mary), Monday, 4 August 2003 15:25 (twenty-two years ago)

It just sat there for ages and ages, after pulling out. It does this to me every time I go to D.C. One time my D.C. return took 7 hours because of this weird random breakdown right after we left--wait for it--Metropark. I'm convinced it's not a real place, but rather the black hole.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 4 August 2003 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)

QAing a proposal for the federal government or Chimay and a car accident? Now I know where I would prefer to have been this past Friday night.

(Sadly, no one will pay me to go to Baltimore and drink beer.)

j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 4 August 2003 18:15 (twenty-two years ago)

(beer. tom's friends who poss don't wanna be googled. girolamo and tom. helltime producto and girolamo. tom and ally. growling helltime, what's up with that face it's brilliant. tom. paparazzi.)

(to someone who might read this thread: person L is in blue shirtage)

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Tom's muscle shot is a thing of beauty and a joy forever.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I was torn between putting that on my desk or the one of us with tongues hanging out cross eyed. Cross eyed won out.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)

im so glad i never made it.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)

We aren't that ugly, Chris!

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

there would have been pictured of me shirtless. i would have missed you all anyways, seeing as i would have been there on saturday.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Well we could've hung out on a Saturday. You really should be a bit less fatalistic, you know.

And you wouldn't have been the only one pictured shirtless/partially shirtless. There were at least 4 people who would've kept you company.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)

fatalistic?

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha read this thread and the NYC thread! Anyway why didn't you email me yr phone #?

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I forgot. Yep, im a miserable bastard. Grrr, I HATE YOU ALL! Haha.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)

bahahaha. What happened to the other shots?

Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Dude for serious, no one wants to see all of them.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

BTW my favorite picture is the beer with the fork in it because wtf did we have that fork for? There was no food being had. Did someone bring it with them? It's amazing.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

the damn perspective on that photo makes my arm look about 2" thick. WTF.

Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha yeah, your arm has learned my perspective trick. It's a cute photo tho!

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 20:43 (twenty-two years ago)

ten months pass...
40-HANDZ

http://i.myspace.com/89/50/1710598/12028309_l.JPG
http://i.myspace.com/89/50/1710598/12028388_l.JPG

Ade (Adrian Langston), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude u r so awesome. WTF. You actually got GIRLS to do this. Wow.

Allyzay, Saturday, 26 June 2004 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

i dont believe it! real life 40 hands!

charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 28 June 2004 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)

eleven months pass...
I forgot to read this thread before going, so ended up at the mercy of intuition and an 1997 Lonely Planet guide to the Capitol Region. Spent some time in Annopolis, ate at the Ruth and Chick's or whatever diner, visited St. John's, visited Naval Acadamy..... arrived in B'more, went immediately to the top of WTC building (not my idea!), traveled to hulking dock & neglected waterfront site, traveled through extremely segregated neighborhoods of picturesque and partially boarded-up rowhouses, noted the local summertime uniform of the B'morean, X-large white T-shirt with shorts, went to Fell's Point for dinner--ended up at Captain John's Restaurant, or Admiral Fell's Restaurant, or something, ate outside on the street across from a motorcycle gang revving their engines. Touristy toursity, Drinks at the Wharf Rat. Shopped at that CD place and a cute whimsical place. Recommended cheap hotel on a strip club strip outside of town no vacanices, so ended up at another 1970s style cheap hotel on the outskirts of another part of town. Next day breakfast at Sip N Bite -- yummy -- went to Normal Bookstore and Book Thing but didn't have any books to trade in, went to the Walters Museum, not as impressed as expected, went to Hampden--which seems to be a parody of itself?--all pink flamingo-festooned/marketing, went to Atomic Books and other stores along 36th street. Went to the Visonary Museum, which blew me away. Saw small-scale replica of Coney Island beach and attractions!!! And numerous mermaids in their H20 exhibit. Didn't know where to go so back to Fell's Point for Nacho Mama's and Natty Bos. Also saw a window screen exhibit at the AMVA so was pleased to see a lone working windowscreen with lighthouse very charltonlidoesque in Canton.

Question: What is the deal with the signs saying BELIEVE everywhere? And the parody signs ? What does it mean?

Was unfortunately not as impressed with B'more as had hoped, as for years had considered moving there. Thought there would be a more happy medium between the touristy shiny new horrible waterfront part of the city and the broken down derelict architecturally romantic part of the city. But the middle ground seemed to be lacking? Of course in just a few days couldn't see everything, but didn't find a real cheap vegetarian restaurant used book store vibe that I was looking for. Will follow thread suggestions more diliigently upon next visit.

Mary (Mary), Monday, 20 June 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)

went to the Walters Museum, not as impressed as expected

what were you expecting, may i ask? i sorta work behind the scenes there and i think the medieval and asian art collections are pretty badass (for a second-tier working-class-schlub city)

BELIEVE is baltimore's or rather the mayor's anti-drug campaign, which seems to consist of not much more than those signs actually. the parodies are... just that.

went to Hampden--which seems to be a parody of itself?--all pink flamingo-festooned/marketing

eh? i lived there for a year and never once saw a pink flamingo. i did see lots of ugly pig-ignorant people on a regular basis however.

Am0n, Monday, 20 June 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)

True Vine = yes!

As for Hampden, you may have been awash in post-Honfest decoration.

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)

how does the honfest differ from the hampdenfest (aka parade of the uglies)? i've been to the latter and saw that band battles play. i also witnessed some 60 yr old hampden locals, both dressed like teenagers, scream at each other drunkenly in the middle of the street.

the lack of used bookstores is distressing at times, as there used to be plenty of them and most of them closed shop. this one that i worked at when in school is still open though and is probably still really good, haven't been there in years. it's two connected rowhouses full of books, lot's of different rooms and floors to go through. also, you missed out on the baltimore book thing which is a nonprofit free book place. they get tons of donations and everything is given away free. they recently were forced out of their location due to high rent but were able to find another place over near normals books. it's open on saturdays and sundays.

Thought there would be a more happy medium between the touristy shiny new horrible waterfront part of the city and the broken down derelict architecturally romantic part of the city.

that would probably be federal hill, canton, highlandtown. charles village is nice to walk around and the baltimore museum of art is there (but i find it a bit underwhelming)

Amon (eman), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

I went to Book Thing. It was right around the corner from Normal's. I also went to Federal Hill and Canton--they seemed to upscale. I'm not sure I went to Highlandtown. The places that were upscale seemed quite upscale, and the places that were downscale seemed quite downscale.

Hamden: There was a bar called Hon, affixed by a 20 ft pink flamingo, and there was also a gift shop, which sold hand towels, T-shirts, etc, with pink flamingos and/or the word "hon" on them. The area where Normal's and Book Thing were seemed okay--is that area called anything?

Re the Walters, I went to see the Asian art collection, which I had heard was really great. I thought the museum was a bit fusty, especially the Hackerman house which I had to go to see the Asian stuff. I think it was renewed recently? I guess I expected it to have more a modern feel.

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 21:55 (twenty years ago)

The area where Normal's and Book Thing were seemed okay--is that area called anything?

Waverly

Amon (eman), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)

we went to highlandtown mary, it was early on when we headed out towards the cranes (on the way back from the cranes, when the freeway kept wanting us to go on it)

charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)


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