who was the first person to write/say 'I HEART...' instead of 'i love...'

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i used to find it annoying but have now swung the other way. in fact i HEART people who say 'I HEART' instead of 'I love'.

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 21 July 2003 12:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it has something to do with those I Heart NY badges...

― kate (kate), Monday, 21 July 2003 13:01 (twenty-two years ago)

i heart this form of communication also

― gareth (gareth), Monday, 21 July 2003 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Milton Glaser.

(er. what kate said.)

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 21 July 2003 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Price for IHeartNY t-shirt with TM mark & glegal ibberish in shop off times square: $6.
Price for shirt without gibberish, in same shop: $17

Though the gibberish does include the fact that the phrase is licensed to a company calles M. B. N. Love Unlimited. Inc.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 21 July 2003 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I do not like using the phrase "I heart this or that" because it is insincere to me! It's like a half assed way of loving something, "I don't really have to commit to it because I cannot make my love turn into a heart! Haha!" Bollocks to that.

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 21 July 2003 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't make my face into a heart!

― Larcole (Nicole), Monday, 21 July 2003 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)

where's the love Ally....where's the love

― james (james), Monday, 21 July 2003 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought that was the point. "Love" has become such an emotionally loaded word - how can you really LOVE your partner, yet also love, say, pizza? I love my partner. I heart pizza.

― kate (kate), Monday, 21 July 2003 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

but there are many types of love (13 at the last count thanks to st paul)

― james (james), Monday, 21 July 2003 13:37 (twenty-two years ago)

and anyway pinkpanther vs pizza - thats a close one (i can say this because i know damn well pinkpanther is weighing it up both in her head)

― james (james), Monday, 21 July 2003 13:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Obviously there are different shades of love--when I tell Gareth on the "40" thread that I love him it doesn't mean I love him the same way I love my boyfriend, it means I love him as a friend and funny, delightful person. Just like if I announce that I love sushi, I trust that Gareth doesn't then decide he is edible. Maybe I have far too much trust in people's ability to deliniate between meanings of a shady word.

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 21 July 2003 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't. I've had too many close calls and misunderstandings with the friend/boyfriend differentiation. Say what you mean. Be precise. God, people suck.

― kate (kate), Monday, 21 July 2003 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)

But I AM being precise when I tell a friend I love them versus my boyfriend. It's just two different usages of the exact same word--"love" does not mean "I want to fuck you" in all usages.

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 21 July 2003 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)

i wouldnt like to fuck a pizza - well not a red hot one

― james (james), Monday, 21 July 2003 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Love is an imprecise, and therefore meaningless word. You ASSUME that they are able to differentiate, or else somehow figure out which usage you mean. But go look at the "examining every word of an email" thread to see the ways in which they WILLFULLY do not.

― kate (kate), Monday, 21 July 2003 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

hmm this thread got pretty weird pretty quickly - surely the expression of love as a term is down to context - if i say in front of sarah i love Pizza or i love my mum or i love one of my friends she is not sat there compiling a mental top ten of who i love and in what order and where she sits in that list

love is a cool term - yes it doesn't sum up the emotional parts that make it so but to say it and mean it about anything that you love is cool with me, after all a rose by any other name would smell as sweet

― james (james), Monday, 21 July 2003 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)

i wouldnt like to fuck a pizza - well not a red hot one

i got a part for you in my next movie James...

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 21 July 2003 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Someone else's misconceptions and mental inabilities are not necessarily my problem and if they want to assume I've meant something I haven't actually said and won't just bloody ask me, then they deserve whatever comes of that.

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 21 July 2003 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, like I said. People suck.

especially people with attitudes like yours.

I'm going now. >:-(

― kate (kate), Monday, 21 July 2003 13:56 (twenty-two years ago)

stevem i work for minimum wage, i'll do long hours and mighty meaty's

― james (james), Monday, 21 July 2003 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Kate, see any number of NYC FAP threads as to why I don't give a fuck what people think of what I say anymore--being nice and trying to cater what you say to every mentalist, in my experience, leads to more miscommunications than just doing things the way I want to.

It's really not that hard to figure out that the way one loves a pizza is a bit different from the way one loves another person. Do you tell your mom and dad you "heart" them to differentiate between them and HSA? I kind of hope not???

Also "I heart you" is unbearably twee and I think I'd self-destruct if I actually said it...

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 21 July 2003 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Plus, there's a thin line between heart and hate.

― Larcole (Nicole), Monday, 21 July 2003 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

< / Nigel Tufnel >

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 21 July 2003 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I think I may make that the title of my autobiography.

― Larcole (Nicole), Monday, 21 July 2003 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

It was Suzy who first said this. Or Al Gore. There's some dispute.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 21 July 2003 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

N, do you have the entirety of ILX somewhere for searching purposes? How much to replace the search page with a "shout directly at N." link?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 21 July 2003 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

"love" does not mean "I want to fuck you" in all usages.

(cries)

It's really not that hard to figure out that the way one loves a pizza is a bit different from the way one loves another person.

No, but it's not always obvious that they way you love one person is different from the way you love another, which was your first example. Though I reckon Gareth can probably muddle it out:)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 21 July 2003 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Andrew no - that was an old running joke based on other things Suzy has claimed to have invented.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 21 July 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

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