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What are the limits the state should have on gathering information about *suspect* individuals or organisations?

Billy Dods, Thursday, 20 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I got my fathers CSIS file yesterday. It was pretty scary.

anthony, Sunday, 23 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Surveillance story which amuses me: some Western journo in East Germany in the 80s — possibly Timothy Garton Ash — is talking on the phone to an EG acquaintance, not abt politics but abt literature. The Stasi snooper assigned them is so irritated by the pretentious and ill-informed line that the conversation is taking that s/he interrupts the chatterers to put them right, on some key point of cultural fact.

Surveillance itself is primarily about boredom: the problem lies with the reporting and interpretation of the "intelligence" gathered. This is all shit: mainly because it has to remain secret, and thus can never be checked against reality. The Stasi encompassed abt half the population, so probably had some VERY smart foax working for them: however they did not foresee the ending by mass walk-out of their own state, presumably the one event above all they were employed to prevent, or at least give advance warning of.

mark s, Sunday, 23 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Paranoia about surveillance is a desperate attempt to make oneself feel more important than one is. I think those people who have webcams on them 24/7 are healthier.

dave q, Sunday, 23 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

four years pass...

i managed to get wound up by some dissensusite who was upset about the oyster card and how it could be used to 'track our movements'. but this is fucked!

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 14:09 (fourteen years ago) link

That really is utterly terrifying. I had an ex who would have absolutely loved that service.

Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link

eleven years pass...

The Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency has officially gained agency-wide access to a nationwide license plate recognition database, according to a contract finalized earlier this month. The system gives the agency access to billions of license plate records and new powers of real-time location tracking, raising significant concerns from civil libertarians.

police state cometh

infinity (∞), Friday, 26 January 2018 18:15 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

anal print scanning is here

In other news Stanford has made a toilet that identifies you based on your butthole

— quaranbean (@christapeterso) April 6, 2020

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 April 2020 22:29 (one month ago) link

take it that this means some programmers have been employed looking at and analysing photos of buttholes, perhaps for a year or more.

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 6 April 2020 22:33 (one month ago) link

i feel like this is taking poopshelf gestalt to a new level

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 April 2020 22:36 (one month ago) link

so like Yelp but with pictures

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Monday, 6 April 2020 22:40 (one month ago) link

just a rip-off of

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 01:51 (one month ago) link

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