Can you take a joke?

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or do you get all upset?

gareth (gareth), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)

lot better than i used to be - depends on the joke. if someone takes the piss out me better than i can take the piss out of myself then i take it bad. fortunately this is no longer possible.

stevem (blueski), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Usually the latter. I remember one occasion round at Stevie's old flat when every other fucker there (and there were about 20 of us) got the joke which was turned round so that I was the butt of it. And I didn't get it and I went into the kitchen to cry.

Mark C (Mark C), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

"If your life is such a big joke, then why should I care..."

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

thats on my crush cd.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I take the joke and run for the hills with it, poking my tongue out at all the mean people behind me.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Often

J (Jay), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Is that a serious question?

nestmanso (nestmanso), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I was listening to the Interpol album all day yesterday.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

the problem with jokes - or the idea behind them is that they are only funny if you are in the mood to take them - i am very self deprecating and can take a joke real well, but if im not feeling to great or something hasnt gone well then im fucked if im gonna be the brunt of someones comedy and i am quick to react, this i feel is representative of most people.

james (james), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Isn't there already a thread that concluded "Can't you take a joke?" was the Cry of the Cockfarmer? It's a very indie/twee/emo position, but accurate for all that.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Tis true. Anyone who cries 'can't you take a joke?' has probably not in fact made a joke.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Are you a disher or a taker?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

lots of jokes are cruel and mean-spirited: bullies often use jokes to humiliate people

mark s (mark s), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I generally can't take a joke. This is partly because I'm a smartypants and don't like to be wrong but it's also because I don't like being insulted.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, the classic way to undermine feminist or anti-racist points is to play the 'you can't take a joke' card. And if it's played well, then it's pretty effective as a rhetorical device, almost as good as "Please calm down". Rhetoric can be a fucking evil thing.

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

i phrased the question wrongly. i think what i meant was, "can you understand when something is a joke?", i think it relates to do with face value or something. can you tell when you are being played with a little, or do you not realise until much later?

gareth (gareth), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)

it depends who's doing the playing!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh I can tell. It doesn't necessarily make it less cockfarmerish. And yes I do it myself.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

If this has to do with the ILX last thread joke then no I didn't realize it was a joke and no I didn't think it was that funny. I am sensitive!

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

The problem with the "joke" wasn't whether or not I understood it was a joke but rather that it was a terrible one that spanned 40 threads and quite honestly--and this is me taking it wrongly possibly--came off like a bunch of fuckers being whiny bastards because they don't like the "new" clique. It's really not particularly funny especially if it results in people taking it seriously which was clearly occuring.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

i am quite easy to take in, except i (very occasionally) pick up on some subtle giveaway detail the joker never thought of

when taken in, i am a bit sulky, but when i pick up the detail i am unforgivably pleased with myself

mark s (mark s), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think it had anything to do with the new clique. It was basically the same joke as Jess' "Delete ILE!" one from last year.

I agree it should not have spanned so many threads. Pete is a bad man.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

in order to trust someones motives you need to know a little bit about them or see there face to understand whether or not you are being played with, i can be really guliable but i dont mind unless the motives are wrong and im being made a fool of to the point of trying to hurt me, if thats the case i react very badly indeed i get all eminem on they ass.

james (james), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

and in relation to todays ile joke i think you were fucking with a) peoples love of the board and the prospect it may not exist and b) the fact that as non-mods we put our trust in what you say, thereofre when the mystery bad man from the prev board comes back - we all believe you (ahem not that i did for a second lies all lies)

james (james), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

but this was just a visible representation of a discussion we've been having in the pub for about 6 months (admittedly without made-up people suddenly turning up mid-conversation).

i don't think it's about cliques at all ally, it's not even necessarily about "oh it's not as good as it used to be", it's more of a feeling that perhaps people should move on and do other stuff. as there's only 75 people on the interweb, we'd all meet up at the next board/list/whatever and we can do something different there.

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

The only person who can shut down ILX unilaterally is Andrew, AFAIK. And I don't think he plans to.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought I could take a joke but apparently I can't.

NA (Nick A.), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)

It was funny coming in at around 12 pm and finding what graham's thread had developed into.

I did put back at the top of new ans saying: 'even though i think its a joke etc etc.' and i went on to comment on tim's post just for the sake of it.

up to that point i pinkpanther was the one who was taken in and it wasn't particurlarly nice to see but it happens. obv having boring spoonered in here didn't help. and then when ricardo came in it looked like the board was being taken over by trolls. it was pretty funny.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)

it's what graham's thread needed.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:13 (twenty-two years ago)

By the way, you have 3 months to live.

NA (Nick A.), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Just kidding, ha ha! Boy, that was funny.

NA (Nick A.), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Seems you have to have a bit of a warped sense of humour to see this as a successful prank. It's not easy to understand when you're not in on the joke, even now (but then I am k-dumb).

Mark C (Mark C), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes it was certainly nothing to do with cliques (I certainly wasn't on that other Is ILE getting too Pally thread as I don't think it is or isn't. ILE abides). It was a very self indulgent piece of fantasy on my behalf which perhaps got a teeny bit out of control but I enjoyed playing with it and always had the intention of coming back down in the end. (If anything the prehistoric board lie was more to play with old posters to see if I could fool them).

Truth is ILE could end tomorrow for al sorts of reasons out of our control. Let us not take any of this too seriously - and I certainly hope I did not offend any of the newer posters, maybe in their relief they will post more (maybe hating me but whatever).

I am - by the way - not and never have been a moderator and I think we can all have a sigh of relief that this is the case. Nevertheless a lie of this sort is the worst kind of bullying tactic because it presumes knowledge is power and I accept that, which is why I do not sucumb to these instincts very often.

Pete (Pete), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

i order you all to look back on this and laugh out loud! NOW!!!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

IT DEPENDS ON THE "JOKE"
http://www.invisiblerecords.com/bands/killingjoke/images/killjoke.jpg

subbing for a painfully MIA Alex in NYC (nickalicious), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

what the fuck i'm a complete newbie and i don't know anything about ILX lore and it was crystal clear what was happening the whole time! are the people who say they didn't understand it was a joke joking? is the joke on everyone else? is it on me?

pete b. (pete b.), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I think more importantly no-one has to believe my lies for me to enjoy telling them.

Pete (Pete), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I was taken in, primarily because I read the admin thread before the other ones and I knew that something was happening. Thus, 'often.'

J (Jay), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)

(If anything the prehistoric board lie was more to play with old posters to see if I could fool them).

Well yeah - it just seemed to be for Dan, Ned you and Tom or something. Which was why I called it self-indulgent.

Yes, you'd have to be pretty naive to have fallen for any of it (a five year bogeyman suddenly appearing from nowhere?), but as J says - not everyone has time to read all the threads so if they just pick up on a part of it then they are entitled to feel like the joke is on them.

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Knock knock.
Who's there?
Banana.
Banana who?
Knock knock.
Who's there?
Banana.
Banana who?
Knock knock.
Who's there?
Banana.
Banana who?
Knock knock.
Who's there?
Banana.
Banana who?
Knock knock.
Who's there?
Banana.
Banana who?
Knock knock.
Who's there?
Orange.
Orange who?
Orange you glad I didn't say banana?

That joke in one post = I'm not funny.
That joke in two or three posts, every time people bring up jokes, oranges, doors, or bananas = I'm not funny and either my very lack of funniness is funny in of itself, or I'm just really self-impressed.
A work day's worth of threads devoted to that joke, "TS: ORANGES VS BANANAS," "HOW GLAD ARE YOU HE DIDN'T SAY BANANA," "HELP HELP THERE'S A BANANA AT MY DOOR," and so on = I'm a dick.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:29 (twenty-two years ago)

You forgot: "AN ANONYMOUS BENEFACTOR HAS EATEN THE BANANAS"

NA (Nick A.), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Some people's senses of humour will forever be a mystery to me. Repeating a joke is ALWAYS funnier! Maybe this is why I like house music.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, it works better with "Aunt who?" / "Aunt you got rid of all those grannies?".

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I figured that's what "BANANAMAN" was about, but I haven't gotten to that thread yet. Maybe my secret dream will come true and it's about a superhero whose theme song is to the tune of "Mahna Mahna."

(Bananaman ... doo doo da doo doo ... Bananaman ... doo doo doo doo ...)

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:33 (twenty-two years ago)

TS: 1 person finding a joke very funny vs 100 people half-smiling.

(Or TS: In-Jokes vs "Real" Jokes)

Tom (Groke), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I believe anything anybody tells me. My friends know this, and they leverage their knowledge for all it's worth. I don't get upset by being hoodwinked and I don't think anyone else should, either: even if the hornswoggler loves the hornswoggle for its own hornswoggly sake, it's still a flight of imagination for YOUR benefit so I should think its really kind of a compliment and certainly no reason to be upset. Really the whole deliciousness of it is the moment of finding out; they WANT you to find out; the taking-in is just an all-important delaying of that moment. That Pete is just out to please himself shouldn't affect this analysis because we all know his standards are well-below average.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmm.. I don't know about 'always', Tom. Only in a group of friends where people find it funny (it does help to have one or two of these friends not finding it funny at all, I agree, but if the people not finding it funny are strangers it is dud). Someone I know made his girlfriend storm off and cry by refusing to stop spinning out a joke that she didn't get, which was a bit of a general dud situation too.

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I see it as a "joke" based on a lot of infighting between certain people, some of which do have more control over the board then us common folk. (So all the backpeddaling is a bit annoying.)(It doesn't really upset me in the least b/c it is a sunny friday and i am about to leave work at 1 pm = so much more important).

Banana

bnw (bnw), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)

What was funny (and I mean this sincerely, not "I say funny when I mean lame") was how much of the joke-that-will-not-die took place concurrent with or within the discussion of "ILX has outlived its usefulness, doesn't anyone recognize when it's time to put an end to something?" -- I don't know how deliberate that was.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

That was all part of the joke too! It was all an elaborate ILE apocalypse day hoax.

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I have just realised that this is a character flaw of mine, N. I find in-jokes and inane running jokes very funny, funnier than almost anything: I would in an instant take one snarky aside from Tim (say) that 3 people might get to the entirety of the EXCELSIOR! thread.* OK that in itself is no bad thing, but I simply do not understand/remember that people not in on the joke might find it annoying or feel excluded or feel that the in-joke is directed against them somehow. I understand it rationally but never emotionally - so I am always terribly inconsiderate. :(

*This is also why I like sitting in pubs more than watching TV or films, I suspect.

Tep it was deliberate (as much as any of this was) - like Steve said somewhere the "ILX has outlived..." discussion is itself a long running in-joke.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I love inane running in-jokes more than anything too, Tom. But they do tend to make one look like a wanker to outsiders, yeah.

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah well, too late to change now I fear. I'll try and rein the tendency in on ILE though.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:49 (twenty-two years ago)

See, some of it seems so sincere (from people who do not seem to be in on the rest of the joke, I mean). Anyway -- that bit, genuinely funny (funniness not affected by my uncertainty of intent), cause I've only been able to skim and it keeps flitting back and forth.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)

You don't usually do it on ILE. Just dropping in little refs to in jokes that other people will just ignore doesn't really matter at all.

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

haha dicky knee...

..see, always funny...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 25 July 2003 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Pete Yorn.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 25 July 2003 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm quite gullible and only wised up to the ILX hoax when gareth said something about having a girlfriend.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 25 July 2003 17:19 (twenty-two years ago)

!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 25 July 2003 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Joke! It was just a joke! Winky face! Winky winky winky!

teeny (teeny), Friday, 25 July 2003 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

this is all so meta...

praying mantis (praying mantis), Friday, 25 July 2003 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I can take a joke and wrap it in fire and send it back at you ten times more deadly, all while tying my boots

Millar (Millar), Friday, 25 July 2003 22:14 (twenty-two years ago)

seventeen years pass...

NO, fuck you

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 June 2021 15:08 (five years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78IRyUrA2Ug

Jerome Percival Jesus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 June 2021 15:34 (five years ago)

"Wassa matter? Can't take a joke?"

Usually spoken by someone who's been crudely needling you at every chance, hoping to get an angry reaction.

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Thursday, 3 June 2021 16:08 (five years ago)


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