Feeder clubs - classic or dud?

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Livingston to be feeder club for Old Trafford

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 12:40 (twenty-two years ago)

This is sooo not what I thought it was gonna be! :-(

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 12:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Feeder system is classic, but not for a SPL team.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 12:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I like how on the side of that page there's a headline which says "Watson's love affair with Ailsa goes on", which is always reassuring to hear just a couple of months short of our wedding anniversary :)

However this is just wrong, WRONG, W!R!O!N!G!, and I retract everything I said on the Milton Keynes Wimbledon thread about how Livingston were a good example of club going places. Christ, they qualified for Europe in their first season in the SPL and put a ton of goals past Sturm Graz. Why enter into this nonsense?

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Dud, dud, dud. We have RESERVE football in this country chaps.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

goddamit i thought this was going to be about something else

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought it was going to be about those guys who like to make their ladies really fat.

Texas Sam (thatgirl), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 22:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Jim shuffles his feet, coughs.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)

cough

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 23:07 (twenty-two years ago)

The whole baseball system in the U.S. is like this, as well as Hockey to a lesser degree. Its a bad thing. What both of these sports really need is a system more like soccer, where if you're last place (or the bottom three) you go down a division. That way just about everyone has something to play for the whole season. Since the major league teams effectively own the minor league teams here this will never happen.

Wouldn't this doom Livingston to mediocrity? If they ever got good enough to challenge in the SPL, their best players would get called up to the EPL.

David Beckhouse (David Beckhouse), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 23:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I always thought Leeds were Man United's British feeder club.

James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 08:49 (twenty-two years ago)

meow!

They won't get called up as such David, it's just that Manyoo will have first dibs on players if Livvy come to sell them. It's a bad idea for top flight clubs though, I can't really see the sense in that, lower league teams though, it can be a blessing, almost a guaranteed source of income and loan players.

chris (chris), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 08:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Who wwere Mick Quinn's feeder club?

Adam the Thames Boy, Wednesday, 30 July 2003 09:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I will have to respect Cabbage's economic point.

That aside, I have always thought of such phenomena feeder clubs as an utter blight, an affront to sport.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 30 July 2003 10:09 (twenty-two years ago)

It nearly backfired on Man Utd. Luke Chadwick was almost banned for life while at Royal Antwerp.

Many informal feeder systems exist anyway at youth level and any club with sizeable clout can command transfers from the lower divisions. Spurs have no feeder agreement with Peterbrough yet bought two players from them on the same day.

Adam the Thames Boy, Wednesday, 30 July 2003 10:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I know what you mean PF, it just increases the giant footprint of the bigger clubs that looms over the lower divisions, and I don't really like it, but it may be the only way for some clubs to get by as I say.

Manyoo do it all over the place though don't they? They've got Royal Antwerp, where they had quite a few players loaned out (Ronnie walwork smacked a ref while there iirc), and a team in South Africa too.

Liverpool have a "relationship" with Crewe too, I'd like to know what Crewe fans think of it, whether they reckon they get a good deal.

chris (chris), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 10:21 (twenty-two years ago)

yea wasnt it wallwork that nearly got the life ban, and not chadwick?

gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 10:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, but I think Chadwick might've got a shorter ban for something.

James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 10:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Chadwick was involved in the brawl in the tunnel afterwards iirc, fortunatley his looks weren't damaged in the melee.

chris (chris), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 10:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I stand corrected. Well, if I had legs, I would.

One further point, if you look at La Liga, the clubs reserve sides play competitive football in the lower leagues, Athletico B, Barca B etc. This is meant to act as a feeder system, yet some players spend their whole careers trying to break out of the 'B' sides.

Adam the Thames Boy, Wednesday, 30 July 2003 10:56 (twenty-two years ago)

He'd be the last footballer I'd want by my side in a fight - I'd be scared that he'd snap (in half, not lose his rag).

Is there a player that looks feebler?

James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 10:57 (twenty-two years ago)

It's a bad idea for top flight clubs though, I can't really see the sense in that

My main problem with this feeder cllub arrangement is that ManUre are planning on having enough clubs spaced around the country in such a way as to circumvent the 90-minute rule (may not be the exact time). This rule means that teams cannot recruit a player for their academy if his journey is more than 90 minutes from his home.

ManU have tried many different methods of avoiding this, and a few years ago tried to get promising Ipswich Town youngster Dean Bowditch by claiming that he could catch a plane from nearby Stansted Airport and arrive in Manchester in less than the alloted time!

If they had their network of feeder clubs in place then we may have missed out on our most promising youngster since Keiron Dyer, and - inevitably - a possible future source of income when we are forced to sell to survive. Don't get me started on the horrific state of football finances at the moment.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 11:27 (twenty-two years ago)


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