― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 21:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 21:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sommermute (Wintermute), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 21:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― thoth (Jake Proudlock), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 21:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 22:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Judge Mentalist (Judge Mentalist), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 22:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 22:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 22:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 22:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 22:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― Girolamo Savonarola, Wednesday, 30 July 2003 23:14 (twenty-two years ago)
Maybe I'd feel differently if I'd had numerous romantic relationships or if I'd had experience with people telling me I'm beautiful or that I don't need to worry about my physical appearance, but I have little experience with relationships, and every time my mother sees me (save for the last month, that is) she launches into a laundry list of things I need to improve about my physical appearance. And no one (IRL) has really come out and even just said I looked "cute".
Really, though. Physical appearance is the one aspect about myself that I am absolutely the most sensitive and pessimistic about.
― Just Deanna (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)
I think I'll just crawl into a corner somewhere....
― Just Deanna (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 23:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 23:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 23:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 23:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 31 July 2003 00:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Thursday, 31 July 2003 02:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― Layna Andersen (Layna Andersen), Thursday, 31 July 2003 02:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Thursday, 31 July 2003 18:28 (twenty-two years ago)
ILX women are a weird subset of womankind, mind.
― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 31 July 2003 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)
Um....
*can't speak*
whispers: Wow.
― Just Deanna (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 1 August 2003 08:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Friday, 1 August 2003 09:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 1 August 2003 09:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Friday, 1 August 2003 09:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 1 August 2003 09:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in Rotherham (Alex in Doncaster), Friday, 1 August 2003 09:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― Fabrice (Fabfunk), Friday, 1 August 2003 09:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Friday, 1 August 2003 09:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Emma, Friday, 1 August 2003 09:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 1 August 2003 09:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Friday, 1 August 2003 09:54 (twenty-two years ago)
Yeah. I was having a discussion with someone about this recently. It's true, they are strange, but in a vague and undefinable way.
― Andrew (enneff), Friday, 1 August 2003 10:06 (twenty-two years ago)
Clearly Julio, you are too young to remember Concept Man.
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 1 August 2003 10:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― dave q, Friday, 1 August 2003 10:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sommermute (Wintermute), Friday, 1 August 2003 11:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Saturday, 2 August 2003 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Saturday, 2 August 2003 01:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Saturday, 2 August 2003 01:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― unknown or illegal user (doorag), Saturday, 2 August 2003 01:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― unknown or illegal user (doorag), Saturday, 2 August 2003 01:56 (twenty-two years ago)
-- Andrew
Why? why? why?
< /selfinterest>
― Anna (Anna), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 12:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mandee, Tuesday, 5 August 2003 13:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― Vic (Vic), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 13:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Anna (Anna), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)
god no
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 5 August 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Larcole (Nicole), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Larcole (Nicole), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)
LESS CHIT CHAT MORE PROCLAMATIONS OF ASS KICKINGS FOR INFORMATION, THANKS.
― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― Larcole (Nicole), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)
I could hire someone from those Soldier of Fortune magazine ads to wipe out the entire ILX Men crew if they refuse to offer an answer to this question.
Dude, you could hire the Proclaimers to wipe us out. Have you seen us?
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)
However, they can still get the job done so just answer the question!
― Larcole (Nicole), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:24 (twenty-two years ago)
I don't think women are esp. PC but I do get kind of freaked out when women say women-deprecating things or put up with men saying them.
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)
A definite clue for some of you lot to exercise, pronto!
why are they so PC (in general)? and do they all hate non-PC men?
Hell, I don't think I'm PC at all: my vocabulary hides mucho sins. I don't think I hate non-PC men: if you are being non-PC to try and shock me, that's when I lose interest (since your actions wouldn't have a point behind them)
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)
You have driven this guy out of town you meanies
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:44 (twenty-two years ago)
-- Bob Shaw (bob_001...), August 5th, 2003.
- hey bob, u don't have to leave...people can be rude around here, but don't take it personally
― Vic (Vic), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)
i want to know bob shaw's definition of PC.
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 21:17 (twenty-two years ago)
But, uh, I have no idea what they're talking about. There doesn't seem to be a defining group characteristic of ILX wimmen. Except, possibly, a heightened sense of taste in regards to culture, compared to the norm.
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 21:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 21:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)
I think that explains everything then.
― Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 21:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 21:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 21:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 21:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― Vic (Vic), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)
Well, yeah.
― Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 22:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 23:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 01:51 (twenty-two years ago)
Di were you meaning it's not a good thing to fall outside those cruel social normatives and thus be considered an exception/wrong/misguided or something and in an ideal world there'd be no such problem and we'd all be "normal"?no andrew, i just can't stand it when people say things like "women are this/that/whatever" and then look over at me and say "oh i didn't mean you" as if that means i won't pull them up for making crass generalisations about women and as if i am supposed to be flattered for not being considered to have the usual "womanly flaws", whatever they might be.
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 04:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 04:06 (twenty-two years ago)
I think the generalisations point was based on the fact that it's hard to take "what women see in men" as a huge idea when most relationships are fairly different. But if we are having a go at that generalisation then I think it's just companionship, love, etc, kind of a non starter as far as discussion goes.
Physically? Much more interesting area, I think my idea of a good looking guy is only learned from womens ideas, so no I don't really understand the physical attraction. I really don't want to start saying why women might want to spend time with men, without being snarky it's ploughing a lonely furrow around here.
― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 07:42 (twenty-two years ago)
this hit a nerve or two..
― Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Friday, 8 August 2003 10:44 (twenty-two years ago)