tips for my road trip across america

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Hi, I’m hoping to get some interesting suggestions for my road trip holiday. I’m flying to New York at the end of the month and will drive to LA from there. I’ve done many trips before, and have covered most of the country east of the Mississippi fairly thoroughly, although my partner in crime hasn’t as much. Once we get past Dallas, I’ve never been there.

The two things I’m looking for are:

Suggestions on cool/interesting/unique places to visit. Anything from your favorite restaurant or book shop to those zany tourist attractions like giant dinosaurs or the Cadillac ranch.

Songs to put on the soundtrack. These could be songs that mention the town or the state we’re in, that were written about the area, or written by people in the area. I’ll spend way too much work time in the next month trying to download and burn any suggestions.


Here’s the suggested route. As you can see, we aren’t really going for efficiency, we’re aiming for it to be interesting and fun. The driving part will last 3 weeks. (Not a long time, but we’ll take what vacation time we can get).

The first part of the trip will be us trying to get from the East Coast to St. Louis to visit my Great Grandma (aren’t I a nice girl?). Highlights include:

New York—Providence—Boston—Cape Cod—Connecticut—Pennsylvania—W.Virginia—Ohio—Indiana or Kentucky—Southern Illinois—St. Louis

Then we’re taking a weird route to get to Texas, mostly to cover states my friend or I haven’t been to yet. That’ll probably be:

Nashville—Birmingham, Alabama—Montgomery—Mobile—New Orleans—Houston. Then several days in Houston, Austin and Dallas.

On the road again hitting:
Something of Oklahoma—Amarillo, Texas—Roswell—Truth or Consequences, New Mexico—Albuquerque—Four Corners (Arizona/New Mexico/Utah/Colorado)—Grand Canyon—Las Vegas—San Diego—Los Angeles

Fly to Michigan and see way too much of I-94 between Detroit and Chicago.

Any suggestions are welcome. I’m sure we’ll be able to find plenty to amuse us along the way, but ‘insider’ hints and a good soundtrack sound good to me.

Thanks!

colette (a2lette), Thursday, 31 July 2003 10:09 (twenty-two years ago)

*jealous*

metropolis - i love new york

gareth (gareth), Thursday, 31 July 2003 10:48 (twenty-two years ago)

i want to do this also, but from LA to New York...like in that Lacquer video

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 31 July 2003 11:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Too early in the morning for practical suggestions from me but if you're up to meeting ILX folk when you hit LA, let us know!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 31 July 2003 11:20 (twenty-two years ago)

We did something similar for our honeymoon two years ago. A couple of highlights:

As you drive from New Orleans to Houston, make sure to stop on Avery Island, where the Tabasco factory is, and take the tour.

In Houston, check out the Orange Show, http://www.orangeshow.org .

They are big and touristy, but do not miss Carlsbad Caverns.

If you can possibly take a swing through Chloride, Arizona, do. It's less than two hours from Vegas.

If you happen to be passing through Reno, NV, eat at the Pneumatic Diner, one of my favorite food-sources on the planet.

Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 31 July 2003 12:17 (twenty-two years ago)

It's so cliched, but the Grand Canyon is really amazing. Don't underestimate the amount of time it takes you to get across those western states--they're huge. There's a great Mexican resturant on the main drag of Truth of Consequences that has "Cuchina" in the name (like 80% of Mexican resturants, I'm totally not being helpful here). Do eat Mexican food especially while in New Mexico; in my opinion, they do it the best. The waitress will ask you "Red or green?" when you order. The answer is "Green."

If you arrive in St. Louis early enough in the morning, take the tour of the Arch--it's space-age! (Too late in the day and the lines will be too long.) There is a microbrewery on "The Landing" (right next to the Arch) that has lovely fresh beer, and instead of doing french fries, they deep-fry little lumps of mashed potato, yum. Stay away from the official cheese of St. Louis, Provel, unless you absolutely must experience authenticity in the form of white velveeta. The other St. Louis specialties are fried ravioli (yum) and gooey butter cake, which is kind of like a baked pudding. Oh, and frozen custard. St. Louisans aren't big on the healthy eating.

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 31 July 2003 12:50 (twenty-two years ago)

also, how is your NM trip going? If you're coming from Amarillo, Albuquerque--Roswell--T or C makes more sense, and then that means you'd be taking I-10 to go to Tucson, then up through Phoenix to the Grand Canyon. Ally can share her knowledge on Phoenix-area, and I know Tucson really well (and it's well worth the visit). You'll also be traveling through my blink-and-you'll-miss it hometown, and you can see THE THING?", which is fucking aces.

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 31 July 2003 12:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Also while you're so close to Mexico, you might as well go!

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 31 July 2003 13:00 (twenty-two years ago)

how about galveston?

gareth (gareth), Thursday, 31 July 2003 13:03 (twenty-two years ago)

oh and,

glen campbell - wichita lineman
glen campbell - galveston

gareth (gareth), Thursday, 31 July 2003 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/tour/tourlany94.html

I love Roadside America!

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 31 July 2003 13:08 (twenty-two years ago)

goodbye ilx, i have discovered a new love. roadsideamerica is my new beau

gareth (gareth), Thursday, 31 July 2003 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

yay! you guys rock. i'm getting so excited. good think my boss is on holiday for the next three weeks, so i can just spend all my time looking at roadsideamerica and such.

i don't think we have a route set once we get past dallas. the things i listed are all the places we want to go, so i'll pass the advice by my co-pilot and maybe we'll be able to do everything!

p.s. if anyone wants tips for LA-->vancouver and over to chicago, let me know. that was my trip a few summers ago, and it was great.

colette (a2lette), Thursday, 31 July 2003 13:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Gareth, I can't believe I never showed you Roadside America! For a summer I worked in a private anthropological research library in Dragoon, right next to the Thing. Excuse me, next to THE THING? They stored Native American remains on the third floor where I cataloged magazines; supercreepy. The library was part of the Amerind Foundation, a fairly well-respected institution that has a great museum. It's right off of I-10 if that interests you at all. You'll need something to lift the weirdness of THE THING? off your brain. Ooh, look at the photo gallery in that link...makes me all nostalgic.

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 31 July 2003 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.travelsw.com/southwest-trips/southwest-trips-arizona/willcoxplaya.htm

This is on the way to THE THING?...it's the biggest natural lake in AZ and it's usually dry as a bone. There's a story about a payroll train full of silver dollars that got blown up with dynamite on the playa in the early part of the 20th century, but it worked so well that the silver dollars scattered for miles around. They say people still find them once in a while but you're not supposed to go out on the playa. The guy on that page was my high school biology teacher; we called him Papa Smurf. The pictures of the playa on that page don't do it justice.

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 31 July 2003 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

better pics here: http://www.megashear.org/events/wilcox_index.html

My god, I do go on!

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 31 July 2003 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Colette does "at the end of the month" mean the end of August? If so, I'll be doing almost exactly the same route as you, at the same time, except in reverse! (I'm going to be on the road for at least two months though, and starting from Portland, OR).

Anyway, no tips yet, but thanks for starting this thread. :)

Teeny, I was thinking the Grand Canyon would be too obvious and tourist-packed, and was going to skip it in favor of Bryce Canyon in Utah. Have you (or anyone else) been there?

chester (synkro), Thursday, 31 July 2003 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)

ooh no, can't do contrast and compare as I've never been to Bryce. The GC isn't as touristy as you might expect, possibly because it's so big and there's plenty of places to look at it. Last time I went was like 1988, though, so who knows now. Likewise Las Vegas has totally changed since I last went there in 1983.

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 31 July 2003 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Aunt Sally's Pecan Pralines in New Orleans

If you find a Diner in the middle of nowhere, say, in a valley or on a plain or desert of some sort, do take pictures and let me know asap.

Jmod, Thursday, 31 July 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, chester. i'm flying to new york on the 22 august. maybe we should figure out somewhere in the middle where we can meet!

are you driving down the california coast?

colette (a2lette), Thursday, 31 July 2003 14:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not leaving until Sept 3; I'll be in LA from 10-11 Sept until the 15th or so, which sounds like about when your trip will be ending. Maybe I can buy you guys pints in exchange for some stories? (Are you from the UK?)

The Cali coast: I'll be taking Hwy 101/1 all the way from Crescent City to LA, so if anyone has advice about where to go along here, feel free to share (the Hearst mansion is already first on my list).

chester (synkro), Thursday, 31 July 2003 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

If you're doing that, you're on the right track. Carmel, where my folks live, is a most beautiful place as is all of Big Sur.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 31 July 2003 15:22 (twenty-two years ago)

dude, a thousand pardons cause I didn't feel like reading the whole thread, the initial comment tired me out. i live in Newport RI, you must stop there and check out the mansions on your way out of Providence. where are you going in West 'by god' Virginia? that's me motherland.

nate the great, Thursday, 31 July 2003 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

My girlfriend and I will be driving from Berkeley to Boston starting about August 20. We haven't decided on a route (I'd like to head east to about Denver, then south to Houston, follow the gulf coast, and then head up the atlantic coast). Anyone done such a thing? It will be hot, I know that much.

Kris (aqueduct), Thursday, 31 July 2003 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Coolio. . .

Houston: I second the Orange Show. Other arty things (houston, one of the most arty TX cities next to Fort Worth) the Rothko Chapel and the Art Car Museum.

Austin: wowzers. . everything. I always eat at Curra's (Oltorf and I35- best migas) and Star Seeds Cafe (I35 and 38th for ambience). Visit Barton Springs, the 360 Bridge and have drinks at any of these bars: Ginny's Little Longhorn, Casino El Camino, The Horseshoe Lounge.

Dallas: Dealy Plaza of course, Fair Park if you get the chance, and if you want to email me I'll buy you a drink at the oldest bar in Dallas (Ships Lounge).

I *love* road trips.

Texas Sam (thatgirl), Thursday, 31 July 2003 22:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks for the Houston tips Samantha, I thought I was going to have to speed through it on the way to New Orleans since no one else will give it a kind word. Anything special to see between Roswell and Austin? (I wasn't planning to go through Dallas.)

Kris are you and your girlfriend moving to Boston or just going for a drive?

chester (synkro), Thursday, 31 July 2003 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I have no idea about Roswell. Which part of Texas are you going through? If you'll be going El Paso way you should stop in Marfa. Good food in Houston: Mai's vietnamese place in Lil' Saigon open till about 4am. Also, plenty of BBQ.

Texas Sam (thatgirl), Thursday, 31 July 2003 23:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I want to go to Prabhupada's Palace of Gold and City of God in
New Vrindaban, West Virginia.

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/tour/94day6.html#palace

Mary (Mary), Friday, 1 August 2003 02:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm moving to Boston; my girlfriend already lives there. We'll only be there for a few months though.

Kris (aqueduct), Friday, 1 August 2003 02:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't eat at Shoney's.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 1 August 2003 02:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Do eat Mexican food especially while in New Mexico; in my opinion, they do it the best. The waitress will ask you "Red or green?" when you order. The answer is "Green."

Seconded.

There's so much natural beauty in New Mexico, I personally wouldn't waste much if any time in a place like Roswell. However, going from Roswell to T or C (I'm so hip) you'll see some gorgeous scenery if you tak HWY 70 and go through Ruidoso--basically a resort for rich Texans, if I'm not mistaken. Coming down from the mountains there, you'll enter the Tularosa basin, surrounded by the San Andres Mountains to the west and the Sacremento Mountains to the east. I've crisscrossed NM and this is one of my favorite areas. Definitely check out White Sands, which is right on 70 past Alamogordo.

Once you get to Albuquerque, get off the interstate and check out one of the pueblos. Never been there, but I've heard that Jemez pueblo is cool one to check out. This area is also very pretty: probably not what you'd typically expect to encounter in NM, ie more alpine than desert. Never been to Shiprock (in the Navajo Reservation) either, but check out this picture: http://www.mulliganphotography.com/Media/shiprock.jpg
It's pretty desolate around here (the main attraction is the lack of attractions/civilization), and even on the interstates in NM gas stations can be few and far between: always fill up when you get the chance.

After entering AZ, you can either stay on HWY 160 and check out Monument Valley (turn north at Kayenta) and a bit of the Painted Desert OR take HWY 191 down to Chinle, then head west on 99 and you'll enter the Hopi Nation--another reservation within Navajo Nation. The Hopi tribe are said to be one of the most traditional tribes and their religion is fascinating, much of which centers on the three mesas that they live on and around.

Grand Canyon is usually pretty crowded, but mostly with people who have no sense of adventure. So, if you want a little seclusion, just drive a little bit further into the park. Get to a spot where there aren't any railings and sit over the edge. Whoa, scary. The canyon is obviously stunning but the thing I remember most about being there was the night sky. There's no industry or civilization of any size around for miles, plus you're at about 8000 feet above sea level. Gooey clusters of stars fill every inch of sky.

I am SO fucking jealous. Hope you have a buttload of fun.

oops (Oops), Friday, 1 August 2003 06:18 (twenty-two years ago)

If you're coming from Amarillo, Albuquerque--Roswell--T or C makes more sense

Gonna have to disagree. You have enough time: get off the interstate. From Amarillo, take HWY 60 to HWY 70, which goes through Roswell.

oops (Oops), Friday, 1 August 2003 09:09 (twenty-two years ago)

chester...yep, i'll be flying to michigan from LA on the 14th, we should arrive at least a day or two before that. we're not english. co-pilot is san dieggan by way of ann arbor, belfast and boston. i'm a michigander by way of kalamazoo, ann arbor, chicago and london. we have fun signing guest books on these trips.

but could still be cool to meet up and share our tips and photos...

colette (a2lette), Friday, 1 August 2003 09:45 (twenty-two years ago)

That sounds good Colette, is a2lette@ your real email addy?

Thanks a ton, Oops. I was in Albuquerque & Santa Fe for a week last winter; saw some pueblos and did a lot of hiking, so I was trying to find some new things to explore (Roswell = tacky and off the interstate, which is why I thought of it). The places you describe sound great; I'm sure we'll be hitting them up.

I kinda disagree about the Mexican food, I didn't think it was anywhere near as good as what I've had in SoCal (let alone Mexico), but maybe I didn't go to the right places (I never got south of Albuquerque either).

Real, shameful reason for avoiding the grand canyon: I'm afraid of heights. :(

chester (synkro), Friday, 1 August 2003 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry no tips for ya, but you have fun now, you hear?

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 1 August 2003 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

You should get Jamie Jensen's Road Trip America book. And if you want to see a lot of stuff in any of the Western states, the single-state Moon Handbooks are highly recommended.

see also my crazy road trip thread. all of those trips are probably doomed to failure, because not enough time is allowed for anything (and anyway i can't really take three weeks off work).

In West Texas, I'd be interested in seeing Big Bend and Guadalupe Nat'l Parks, though the latter evidently requires hiking to see the good stuff.

If you've never been to the Grand Canyon, go, absolutely. I don't think you need to spend more than a day/night there, unless you want to hike to the bottom or something. And there are far more beautiful parts of the Southwest. I highly recommend going West through at least part of Southern Utah. Past the Four Corners is the extraordinarily beautiful San Juan River area - the Valley of the Gods, Natural Bridges Nat'l Mon, the Goosenecks, etc. That's the part I've seen (as well as the Dark Canyon area immediately to the North). You can then turn South through Monument Valley (not all that special if you've already seen it on tv, which you have, surely) and the Painted Desert (fantastic) to the South Rim of the Grand Canyon, but if you keep going West, you can go to the North Rim of the Canyon (most people visit the South Rim, which is a shorter drive) and also visit the Paria Canyon wilderness area, perhaps Bryce, and Zion on the way to Vegas. Or even deviate North across the Waterpocket fold through the Escalante area (the part of the US I'd most like to visit) on the way to Bryce.

Also, if you do go West from Santa Fe/Albuquerque through the Pueblos/Navajo/Hopi, do check out one of the oldest homes of the Navajo - Canyon de Chelly and its sister canyon, Canyon del Muerto.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 2 August 2003 02:03 (twenty-two years ago)

er, make that "Road Trip USA"

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 2 August 2003 02:22 (twenty-two years ago)

new mexico is on fire. hopefully the monsoon will help. arizona's worse though.

keith (keithmcl), Saturday, 2 August 2003 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)

thanks for your tips gabbneb, i'll look at your routes with a map when i get a spare minute.

chester, yeah, this is my real email address.

thanks for all the tips, everyone. i'm going to print it all out and take it along with me so that i don't forget anything...

colette (a2lette), Monday, 4 August 2003 09:52 (twenty-two years ago)

For those heading to the Boston area, you should not miss the Museum of Bad Art and its permanent gallery in Dedham.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Monday, 4 August 2003 11:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Sounds like you'll have a blast. My little suggestions are:

-Eat at Blueberry Hill when visitng your great grandma (I gotta imagine it's still there, even though I haven't been to St. Louis in almost 10 years).

-I second Gabbneb on going to Bryce and Zion National Parks in Utah on the way to Vegas... some of the most beautiful areas of the country, really.

-When are ya gonna be in Meechigan? And yes I-94 on the way to Chicago is really boring and you'd do best not to get out of the car.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 4 August 2003 12:11 (twenty-two years ago)

well, my parents live near kalamazoo (and i went to school in ann arbor, and lived in chicago) so i've done the 94 chicago-detroit thing many many times. i should have kept track, would be interesting to see how many hundreds of times it's been now. mostly doing michigan out of obligation-- if i came back to the states and didn't visit my parents and grandma, i'd be given the biggest guilt trip ever. still, it'll be nice to see a few people back in the midwest!

colette (a2lette), Monday, 4 August 2003 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...
ok, last chance for any tips...i fly to new york on friday and hit the road on monday or tuesday.

thanks to everyone that's made suggestions!

(and if anyone actually wants to meet up along the way, let me know this week, and i'll make a note of it)

colette (a2lette), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 22:39 (twenty-two years ago)

have a great trip - take lots of photos

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 23:39 (twenty-two years ago)


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