All You Struggling Fiction Writers: This is where you post about story ideas you abandoned but still kinda like and maybe someone else could do something with them ...

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My most recent abandoned short story was about a little old lady who has a couple of annoying little Yorklshire terriers who viciously bite strangers. She rarely has company and when she does, she puts them out back, but there's always an "accident" and one of the dogs gets in and always attacks her guest(s). The story was told from the point of view of the old woman's long-suffering plumber, but I just couldn't seem to get into the plumber's head. Maybe one of you guys can!

Any other abandoned stories out there looking for a home?

jewelly (jewelly), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:23 (twenty years ago) link

I could spend the rest of the night on this thread. I would probably shoot myself in the morning.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:25 (twenty years ago) link

Shit yeah... I'm not sure how I'd feel about handing them to someone else to tool something out of though - the idea's never ocurred to me! :)

So um... I'll get back to you on this one when I get home and can look over my notes :)

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:25 (twenty years ago) link

a monkey-led verison of popular feature film "s.w.a.t."

dengo matherton (dubplatestyle), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:25 (twenty years ago) link

Mind you jewelly (or anyone else) I'd be interested in writing something out of a discarded idea any of you might have... as some people here will have seen me whine elswhere ive been having bad writers block of late so could use some grist.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:26 (twenty years ago) link

I thought this might get your attention, Tep! ;-)

jewelly (jewelly), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:26 (twenty years ago) link

a man runs over and kills the football coach of a well-respected east coast college who's team is the laughing stock of the league; the judge orders him to take over as coach.

dengo matherton (dubplatestyle), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:27 (twenty years ago) link

Hey, you can have my old lady and her terriers, Trayce ... The idea here is that these are stories you have ABANDONED -- not ones that are still on the back-burner ...

jewelly (jewelly), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:28 (twenty years ago) link

Yah, of course :) Hmm.. I think with yours I'd be in the same predicament as you tho (how to get into a plumbers head)... but we'll see!

Damn I hate being at work and in this creative mood... AGAIN...

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:30 (twenty years ago) link

dengo, change the driver to a woman and it's gold. see?

RJG (RJG), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:33 (twenty years ago) link

Just looking at a few folders, not opening the files or anything, what I remember of half- or un-written stories:

- Plate tectonics and seismic doowhickies don't cause earthquakes, dragons do.

- Slasher movie about Captain Hook killing off the descendents of Neverland's Lost Boys (who returned to the world, grew up, etc.)

- Three really odd stories started one after the other in a two day period right before I was sent to the emergency room: all of them about sudden painful deaths

- Murder mystery, guy who runs one of those fundamentalist "we can help you not be gay anymore" clinics is killed, and of course was secretly gay himself, but neither the lover nor wife did it

- Martians land in the American West, early 19th century, appoint a local tribe the official delegates of Earth in the Big Galactic Hoopahoo

- The Rapture strikes, all the goodie goodies are called up to God, but their bodies stay behind, mindless zombies, and the town slut and town drunk gotta fight their way out of the Bible Belt

- Guy obsesses over, fetishes, the eyes he's removed from his wife's corpse

- Way way in the future, a guy rich enough to afford almost-immortality has built an enormous house because even though he's in perfect health, he's just plain too old to remember everything, so he fills the house with his life

- A guy finds a severed finger on Decatur Street. No real story there. One day I found a severed finger on Decatur Street. I thought to myself "there's a story here." Six years went by. I was wrong. Sometimes you just find a finger and nothing happens.

- Aliens land on Earth or otherwise encounter Earth humans; cultures, biologies, moral values radically different, moreso than we would have guessed; only commonality beyond the fundamentals of intelligence and non-collective identity is a holy text from one of their ancient cultures, which few of them see as relevant anymore, which translates nearly word for word to the King James Version of the Bible.

- In 1960-something, Neal Cassady is the fastest man alive.

- Jack the Giant-Killer vs Jack the Ripper

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:36 (twenty years ago) link

"Sometimes you just find a finger and nothing happens."

I think that's an awesome idea right there! Could be sorta Waiting-for-Godot-ish ....

jewelly (jewelly), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:40 (twenty years ago) link

A lot of your notes sound like huge projects, Tep ... What about little ol' short stories that didn't pan out?

jewelly (jewelly), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:41 (twenty years ago) link

- a retelling of pearl harbor from the perspective of the kamakaze pilot's flashing back on their lives as they race to their noble deaths

- a haunted submarine which sunk to the bottom of the ocean takes on the sentience of its captain and surfaces to take revenge on the government who let his crew die.

- bea arthur is: eleanor roosevelt

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:46 (twenty years ago) link

Clicking on random notes files:

- "Jack Kennedy's Camelot + Arthur's Camelot -- Marilyn = Gwenevere or Morgan?"

- "Prince Henry whoever actually did become King of America, but secretly, public never knew, Washington a puppet, somehow the puppet govt and real govt have drifted apart and now the Federalists and Royalists battle it out behind the scenes with the President having no clue."

- "Instead of sending a man to the moon, Kennedy put money into paranormal whatsis. Continues to rule in realm of dead, colonized forty years ago by US, codenamed Camelot; Soviets got there a few years later, Cold War going on in the afterlife."

[Apparently I had a short-lived fascination both with Kennedy and with secret histories.]

- "This is the house the wolves built when we were only three."

- "Bar that caters to retired gods, like Callahan's but cool."

- "Guy gets addicted to relationships with dying women; his first real love died suddenly, and they never had time for the angst."

- "The world ends, but they leave this one guy behind. Now what?"

- "Robinson Crusoe's Pockets."

- "F. Scott Fitzgerald is an astronaut and there are dinosaurs in space."

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:49 (twenty years ago) link

When I was in high school it seemed like half my relatives suddenly joined AA or some other 12-Step program and I wrote a short story that I liked (but which was rejected everywhere I sent it) about a futuristic world similar to Brave New World except instead of being ruled by technology, society was ruled by 12 Step programs. As in Brave New World people worshipped Ford, and swore saying things like "By Ford!" and "Holy Ford!" etc., but they were obv. talking abt. Betty instead of Henry. And I thought the funniest passage was a brief description of a religious painting in the main character's house that showed Betty standing in a field near a flock of sheep, etc. Anyway.

jewelly (jewelly), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:50 (twenty years ago) link

A lot of your notes sound like huge projects, Tep ... What about little ol' short stories that didn't pan out?

Some of those are short stories that I started to write and never finished -- the earthquake/dragons one, the eyes, the finger, the old guy, the Jacks. Novels peter out more often, though, cause if it's not going super-well, I don't take it past the idea stage; a short story I can wait till I'm a little ways in, and I'm only out a night or a weekend.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:51 (twenty years ago) link

it's goldIE, rjg

oops (Oops), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:51 (twenty years ago) link

a retelling of 1984 using the characters from the wizard of oz

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:51 (twenty years ago) link

blade runner meets the banana splits

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:52 (twenty years ago) link

the secret life of pete best

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:52 (twenty years ago) link

(I think what I'm finding, plonking this in, is one of the Guidelines For Me: if it sounds like a blurb, it won't get finished; if it sounds "clever," it won't get finished.)

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:53 (twenty years ago) link

french nuclear experiments give all cats human intelligence; take over country; start wars; take naps.

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:53 (twenty years ago) link

pat buchanan's boyhood summer where he secretly kissed his male cousin

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:54 (twenty years ago) link

a future where rampant health care cutbacks have given e.m.s. workers the right to decide who lives and who dies in an emergency

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:54 (twenty years ago) link

H.G wells races through time to catch jack the ripper!

RJG (RJG), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:55 (twenty years ago) link

(I think what I'm finding, plonking this in, is one of the Guidelines For Me: if it sounds like a blurb, it won't get finished; if it sounds "clever," it won't get finished.)

I'm the same way, now that you mention it. Which is a shame cuz, you know, I'm so goddamn clever ...!!

jewelly (jewelly), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:55 (twenty years ago) link

a visit to the purgatory where old advertising mascots go when they are of no more use

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:56 (twenty years ago) link

Kilgore Trout to thread!

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:57 (twenty years ago) link

This is an idea I actually really like but will probably never use because it's too much like a throwaway line in ... Tom Robbins? ... about humans having evolved as a way to move water from place to place: humans are just an advanced organ used in the evolution of music, which extraterrestrial societies recognize as the dominant species of Earth.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:57 (twenty years ago) link

I'm the same way, now that you mention it. Which is a shame cuz, you know, I'm so goddamn clever ...!!

I guess it's just another variation on the old "find the line/scene/gag/bit/image you really like, now delete it" advice (which I'm bad at following).

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:58 (twenty years ago) link

a bespectacled depressive shut-in and his tiny pet cricket that lives in his pocket laboriously travel around the country by greyhound to murder people from an internet messageboard in outlandish manners suggested by their 'posting style', is finally caught when attempting to feed longhaired subjectivist Ted Daggett into the parenthetical mouth of a giant, winking face

trife (simon_tr), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:58 (twenty years ago) link

btw tep you are my fav poster on ile : )

trife (simon_tr), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:59 (twenty years ago) link

Seconded!

jewelly (jewelly), Monday, 1 September 2003 05:00 (twenty years ago) link

I can't decide if that was the best or the worst time for you to say that. ... do you have a cricket?

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 September 2003 05:00 (twenty years ago) link

Apropos of nothing, has everyone noticed that my new posting style involves a lot of blowjobs and donuts?

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 September 2003 05:02 (twenty years ago) link

(I kiss you, trife and jewelly)

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 September 2003 05:02 (twenty years ago) link

all of the ppl who dont have distinctive posting styles will be subjected to the various tortures from the film se7en, punishing the trite with trite punishments

trife (simon_tr), Monday, 1 September 2003 05:03 (twenty years ago) link

how will i be killed?

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 1 September 2003 05:03 (twenty years ago) link

oh wait

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 1 September 2003 05:04 (twenty years ago) link

Does "tedious" and "annoying" count as a style?

jewelly (jewelly), Monday, 1 September 2003 05:05 (twenty years ago) link

jewelly if they do youre the most stylish on the block!!

trife (simon_tr), Monday, 1 September 2003 05:06 (twenty years ago) link

yes, it means you'll be killed by watching episodes of the daily show

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 1 September 2003 05:06 (twenty years ago) link

Aww ... Wait, we're killing my thread ...

jewelly (jewelly), Monday, 1 September 2003 05:07 (twenty years ago) link

you will be squished between the pages of a giant issue of ADBUSTERS

trife (simon_tr), Monday, 1 September 2003 05:10 (twenty years ago) link

you will be made editor of adbusters

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 1 September 2003 05:11 (twenty years ago) link

youll be made editor of the stranger

trife (simon_tr), Monday, 1 September 2003 05:11 (twenty years ago) link

I'll revive the thread (until tonight I had been starting to worry jewelly had left ILE!)

Old old old notes:

- From before Waterworld: "World covered mostly in water. Tribes of nomads on surfboards."

- "Johnny Appleseed vs Godzilla" (I actually spent like my whole sophomore year of high school on this one)

- "Pioneer guy leaves wife home back east, takes Indian wife out west, they meet when wife follows him, wives fall in love," AND THEN THEY LEZ UP

- "Old cowboy convinced a roadrunner is the Messiah. Second Coming of Christ? Or just 'the messiah'?" Still want to write that one.

Gotta be another disk here somewhere.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 September 2003 05:12 (twenty years ago) link

- "The future is a theocracy run by evolved dolphins."

- "Coyote decides that if the Earth is round like an apple, it must have a star at its center, and goes to find it."

- "The puppies were exploding again." (I wrote that one, actually, but anyone is free to write it themselves.)

- "Guy gets weird powers from some kind of accident and decides to dress up and fight crime because what else is he gonna do? It goes horribly wrong."

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 September 2003 05:25 (twenty years ago) link

- "Smut story: Prospero fucks Miranda. C'mon, he had to get tired of Ariel."

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 September 2003 05:25 (twenty years ago) link

"Guy gets weird powers from some kind of accident and decides to dress up and fight crime because what else is he gonna do? It goes horribly wrong." = the classic film METEOR MAN!!

trife (simon_tr), Monday, 1 September 2003 05:28 (twenty years ago) link

Oh yeah, it is! I hope that note's older than the movie, then.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 September 2003 05:30 (twenty years ago) link

1
guy gets ignored so
much he gains power of
invisibility

2
vengeful 'feminist'
stalking internet boards is
computer program

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 1 September 2003 05:56 (twenty years ago) link

*cough*

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 1 September 2003 06:00 (twenty years ago) link

trayce are you okay?
that cough looks bad with all those
asterisks round it

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 1 September 2003 06:02 (twenty years ago) link

3 (actual)
dude writes book listing
every single dance song
but he cannot find

singer who was jailed
in late 60s for 'do the
violent revolution'

he's all zenned up now
living in chicago and
imparting wisdom:

'go back to your wife
and daughter you asshole' but
dude just never does

now you all see why
my fiction career's for shit
(got no ending here)

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 1 September 2003 06:06 (twenty years ago) link

The vast majority of my stories are mentalist comedy pieces - once I tried writing this in my silly style...

A man is invited to stay the weekend in a big house where his professor friend lives. When he gets there he discovers the previously celibate professor has built himself, using his immense medical knowledge, a perfect wife out of the corpses of young women. But the corpse wife takes a fancy to the visiting man rather than her husband.

{Shortly after abandoning it I heard that Tim Burton is bringing out an animated film that has the same basic "corpse wife" idea - don't know if it has the love triangle thing, tho.}

I also had a go at doing a horror story once. The plot: an old man has a box containing six photographs, posted to him by people unknown, all of which show in sequence the kidnapping and assimilation into some sort of strange vampiric technology of a woman he loved, decades ago. He has tried to get the police involved but they claim he is wasting police time - a bizarre conspiracy is underfoot. And now the people who "absorbed" his one true love are after him too.

Chriddof (Chriddof), Monday, 1 September 2003 12:04 (twenty years ago) link

H.G wells races through time to catch jack the ripper!

I always knew you were an unoriginal hack, RJG.

Ally C (Ally C), Monday, 1 September 2003 12:28 (twenty years ago) link

attempting to feed longhaired subjectivist Ted Daggett into the parenthetical mouth of a giant, winking face

It's a roman a clef!

I have ideas that I never write down so I forget them. I figure this is actually a good thing, though.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 1 September 2003 12:34 (twenty years ago) link

guy gets ignored so
much he gains power of
invisibility

That sounds rather like the story about the making of the oracle from Lanark; although I think that in that the bloke became disembodied because he started ignoring everything around him, not the other way round.

caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 1 September 2003 14:33 (twenty years ago) link

it's also a short story in "tales from mooinvalley"

(haha except when she's visible again she's really horrible)

mark s (mark s), Monday, 1 September 2003 14:42 (twenty years ago) link

- "Prince Henry whoever actually did become King of America, but secretly, public never knew, Washington a puppet, somehow the puppet govt and real govt have drifted apart and now the Federalists and Royalists battle it out behind the scenes with the President having no clue."

I like this one a lot! (Probably b/c I'm more a history person than a fiction person and I'm imagining all the delicious research to be done.)

Last vacation I took, I had the 're-evaluate your life during a long drive' episode and thought maybe I'd write a book loosely draped on something from the Mahabarata but ostensibly about a young woman who survived the WTC collapse. That's as far as I got though. I totally thought I was going to be a writer when I was young, but I'm really undisciplined. :(

teeny (teeny), Monday, 1 September 2003 14:45 (twenty years ago) link

Probably b/c I'm more a history person than a fiction person and I'm imagining all the delicious research to be done.

Yeah, see, I realized very quickly into my history program that -- as with everything else -- I was just there to get story ideas :) A professor mentioned the "Prince Henry was offered the American monarchy" thing in passing, I went "hm?", and almost wrote the story.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 September 2003 14:51 (twenty years ago) link

You people are all geniuses. You are also all about to be totally ripped off, cause suddenly I have to produce reams of fiction every week. Deadline --> steal from Tep.

nabisco%%, Monday, 1 September 2003 15:30 (twenty years ago) link

Reams a week? Spill!

And take any and all of the above. I do kind of like the Prince Henry one, but there's not actually a plot there, nor a protagonist (actually, I was planning on have Doc Holiday be faking the whole tuberculosis thing, fake his death, and then continue the royalist fight against the forces of ... somebody... see, no plot).

Some of the others could be good stories written by other people. My good stories are always "so there's this vampire, and he's got a gun," or "boo!"

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 September 2003 15:38 (twenty years ago) link

And don't go takin that "boo!" one.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 September 2003 15:39 (twenty years ago) link

I'm writing a story about a german heavy metal band and the nature of the universe, and cakes.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 1 September 2003 15:41 (twenty years ago) link

in hs: cyberpunk (yeesh) story abt a 20 yr old fuckup who is captured by police interrogated with drugs and then imprisoned after a secret military show trial based on vicious anti-terrorism laws (!! circa '95 here ppl!). His prison sentence is being held in a controlled coma while his brain is jacked into an environment that is essentially a black space with a huge digital clock counting down his time (20 yrs if I recall, which seems a bit short I guess).

Terrorist org breaks him out after abt 3 wks, but since clock-prison is connected to some dream-like part of the brain, he experiences the full sentence anyway. Terr org also miffed cos they thought they were springing their captured leader GIL GHURKA, not some kid: apparently whatever bum info led cops to nab the kid also had terr org fooled. After this I think the story did kind of a 'dread pirate roberts' thing where it was all a master plan by GIL GHURKA (himself no the original GG) to appt a successor -- kid brought into fold, takes up w GG's girl, finds he has a knack for int'l terrorism. I think they blew up a spaceship on launch bound for the moon to build a secret slave-mine.

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Monday, 1 September 2003 16:09 (twenty years ago) link

< /haiku mode> actually I first want to say that my joke above about the 'feminist' computer program was a lame joke and I apologize for it. although it would be a cool idea.

secondly, here's another idea I had back when I had illusions about writing short stories: 'the antipenultimate homunculus'. far future, humans gone, only artificial intelligences exist. some of these AIs are obsessed with replicating human culture, some are radical anti-humanists, etc.; our narrator is one of the former, but deals with the latter as kind of a past-researcher, expert on human subbacultchaz. they've all been programmed by humans who knew the human world was ending and created a culture that would outlive them--thing is, these programmers/gods were all science fiction geeks and ordered their world according to SF tenets. and, since they don't actually exist IRL, it's like a self-replicating ILX, except they think they're all walking around, talking, interacting, etc.: Sims Gone Wild.

and then, the twist....

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 1 September 2003 16:23 (twenty years ago) link

N.B.: this was all pre-Matrix, pre-Matrixripoffs, etc. it ended when I uncovered similar stuff in Delany's Neveryon books. pissed me off but good.

< back to corny-ass haiku mode>

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 1 September 2003 16:25 (twenty years ago) link

Hai, it's so weird when you break form and make a non-metric post. I'm not saying don't do it! I'm just saying it's always weird :)

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 September 2003 16:34 (twenty years ago) link

guy gets ignored so
much he gains power of
invisibility

This also happened in Buffy.

Ally C (Ally C), Monday, 1 September 2003 16:38 (twenty years ago) link

Gorillas steal the FA Cup. This idea went no further than that summary. If you want it, Nabisco, help yourself - it seems exactly your kind of thing, obv.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 1 September 2003 19:50 (twenty years ago) link

i'll go ye better:
Gorillaz steal FA Cup;
Albarn = MASTERMIND

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 1 September 2003 21:31 (twenty years ago) link

A boys boarding school, where part of their required uniform is a parted hair-cut, are going on a canoe trip into the woods and, there is some killer lose who kills them only by hitting their heads where the hair parts with an axe. And some time during thier trip up thier is something spooky in the road and the driver slams on the breaks of the van and a canoe from the canoe carrier smashs through the back window possibly decapitating someone or just scaring everyone. (this is actually more of an idea for a bad horror movie)

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 00:51 (twenty years ago) link

NOT abandoned, but maybe it should be/have been:

"Every force evolves a form, and I was Justice's paperwork."

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 7 September 2003 03:49 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
I'm actually writing that finger story now!

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 19 October 2003 16:18 (twenty years ago) link


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