how desperately cranky can lack of cigarettes make you

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I think I could chew up the keyboard right now.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Or I could give in and go outside and have a cigarette.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)

another job well done

― the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 22:39 (twenty-two years ago)

How long has it been? TWO WEEKS, make it two freaking weeks.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 02:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I've been in all kinds of moods & am smoking extra so I will have one for you Ronan

meanwhile, when I was Earnest Not-Smoking-Anymore-Man (3+ years), pumpkin seeds worked for me

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 02:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Mints did it for me (but I smoke again now, so...) Very strong mints had that "I'm aware of my lungs and the back of my throat" thing that cigarettes have.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 02:51 (twenty-two years ago)

oh lordy, has ILX done a "vegetarians who smoke" thread yet? i'm thinking 10,000 new answers by sun up.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 02:56 (twenty-two years ago)

i fail to see the connection

― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 02:59 (twenty-two years ago)

start the thread and they will come. you will see.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 03:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Cranky enough to tear a hobbit limb by limb with my bare hands and use its leg to club Hello Kitty into a melon-scented puddle of blood.

― Ann Sterzinger (Ann Sterzinger), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 03:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I gave up giving up. I've managed to only smoke about thrice a week in the evenings (and not at all during the day) which is something - but the days I am smoking, Ima smokin way too many :/

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 04:32 (twenty-two years ago)

i gave up giving up too trayce, although i did pretty well during my pregnancy ( only to immediately grab a packet and smoke like cwazy after the birth ).
it wasnt too difficult when pregnant, to not smoke. i dont recall even getting cranky but there was such an incentive to not smoke that it rarely crossed my mind.
now i start to get stressy if i am getting close to the end of a pack, and its evening so i cant 'duck out' for another lot and i have to eke em out.

― donna (donna), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 04:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I am constantly reminded of the "tomaccos" from the Simpsons. "it tastes revolting... I WANT MORE!". I loathe the taste, I hate the stink on my clothes the next day... and yet... eh.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 04:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't have one last night but had 2 this morning.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 07:38 (twenty-two years ago)

i was at my mother's about a month ago, and i don't smoke in front of her (in fact, we haven't even had the conversation, but she *knows* (obviously, because i stink of stinky fags, but anyway)), so i went FORTY ONE HOURS without a fag and was nearly hallucinating, especially when we went to the pub and had a meal (ie the two things that induce the pavlovian need for a fag, "finish food" and "have a pint").

i have never tried giving up, but then i only started when i was 19, so maybe i'll try soon (possibly)(ie this will not happen)

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 07:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I sometimes wonder how the constant feeling that you should give up, that you're damaging your health, that every cigarette is five minutes off your life etc. equates with the physical damage of the act of smoking itself. Oh to be able to smoke guilt-free.

― Alfie (Alfie), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 07:54 (twenty-two years ago)

The first 48 hours are the worst, your whole body gets tight like you need a cup of coffee or something. I had a similar experience to Carsmile's recently. I was at an event where smoking wuz no-go - at least for me - a wedding on an organic farm in which family + old family friends were there, I guess I'm not punk-rock enough or something boo hoo anyway, at one point some PIZZA arrived and it was like "why has Tracer been replaced with this ravenous jaw-beast??"

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 08:05 (twenty-two years ago)

god yeah, sometimes cos I seldom try and give up, I don't realise the reason I'm so on edge is cos I want a cigarette. It's like "not hungry, and not thirsty, but something....."

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 08:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I found that I didn't get cranky more tearful. I would just cry at the drop of a hat. Oh & the overwhelming urge, when you are giving up & you haven't smoked for a week, to reward yourself with a cigarette! Ahhhh torture!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 08:10 (twenty-two years ago)

more imaginative rewards, plz!!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 08:12 (twenty-two years ago)

a snifter of speed, for instance

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 08:17 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm cranky even when i'm doped up on nicotine. who can tell the difference?

― Tad (llamasfur), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 08:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I can make two months when I go through one of my sporadic kick the habit drives, but during that time I become even more moody than I am already. And that's very moody. I also no longer enjoy going out, parties, cups of tea or eating. This malaise drags on until my brain starts trying to trick me, saying "well done al, you've proved you can give up the cigarettes. So have a cigarette to celebrate. Go on, just the one like, you know it makes sense. Treat yourself etc etc etc." The best bit is that my lying brain always wins.

― Alex K (Alex K), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 08:18 (twenty-two years ago)

What's the worst bit??

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 08:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry Alex, I think I just need a cigarette

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 08:28 (twenty-two years ago)

It's all good petal, anyway that was a sarcastic catchphrase of mine.

― Alex K (Alex K), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 08:30 (twenty-two years ago)

i left my pack of camels somewhere last night& i have been in the office for an hour now--thought about calling gf to see if they are at home on the table --i dont really want to go out to my car and search betweeen the seats for the random --went outside for a few minutes & NOBODY CAME OUT FOR A FAG-WTF-Ronan you have terrible/perfect timing
also doesnt help that there are no wheaties anywhere on the east coast apparently
plus my breakfast was so average last night, what sort of diner serves store bought sausage links? the oj was top notch at least

― kephm, Wednesday, 17 September 2003 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Fuck a guilt trip, quitting is for quitters!!!

What kind of wedding has pizza?

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

drink water, drink lots of water. My dad says he quit smoking for good just by drinking water (and presumably, not smoking).
also, seeds, gum, mints, toothpicks. keep your hands and mouth occupied. breathe deeply.

also, tell everybody around what you're going through and then five minutes later, tell them they're all a bunch of assholes. They'll understand.
I actually do this as a pre-emptive get out of trouble ploy when I think I want to go tear someone's head off.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

You people make me si..
*WHEEZE*COUGH*PUFF*BLOW*..ck.

― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 21:19 (twenty-two years ago)

It was the night before the wedding, Ally, I had three days of that torture to go thru. There were plenty of opportunities to indulge my ashy wont, but for some reason I didn't even bring any with me. I must have been setting myself up on purpose. Dumb!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 21:27 (twenty-two years ago)

What kind of wedding has pizza?

exactly! and what's this about it being on an organic farm??? I'm imagining you goy-ing them by ordering Dominoes meatzaa supreme or something.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 21:33 (twenty-two years ago)

The groom, a budding producer w/NPR (Sc0tt S1m0n wuz there!! He opened his toast w/"it is fourteen minutes past the hour", how mozarella can you get?? twat!!!!) had spent summers in his childhood on this farm, it was a "------ Farm" (can't remember), some mostessori hippie invention. The favored guests stayed in bunkhouses, the rest of us in tents, avoiding the horseshit. I saw the biggest fucking hog I have ever seen in my life. He was the stud. His balls were as big as a baby piglets, like fucking YYYYYYEAAAAAGGGHHH and he loved that mud. He just nuzzled up in it. As did the queen, the studess, the royal ho. But still everyone says pigs are actually very clean animals. Then why are they always treating mud like their favorite blanket? Do we force it on them?

The official program had this entry: "6:30 am: Lettuce picking (HN*)" "*Helpers Needed"

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 21:47 (twenty-two years ago)

"Montessori"

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 21:48 (twenty-two years ago)

"pick yr own lettuce" has to be the request most expecting the answer NO! of anything in the language

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Lack of cigarettes clarified that for me.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 22:04 (twenty-two years ago)

pigs dig mud 'cos it's cool and they don't have sweat glands.

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 22:15 (twenty-two years ago)

So what would a "clean pig" do? Nestle in the toilet? Or just SUFFER?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

it must be a nightmare getting pigfarmers' kids to wash their faces

"i'm a really clean child, i just look like this because mud is cool"
"bathroom! now!!"
"BUT I HAVE NO SWEAT GLANDS""

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)

One of the reasons pigs are "clean" is that they gather all their feces in one corner. Well, I can do that.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)

AT LAST!!

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 22:26 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/pigs/images/essay3.jpg

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 22:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Tracer, are you actually Otis? WTF is up with that story?

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 23:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Minna, tell your fat people pizza story!
I love that story.

― Nellie (nellskies), Thursday, 18 September 2003 00:13 (twenty-two years ago)

this thread is like the ILE smoker's lounge. in a good way.

― Dave M. (rotten03), Thursday, 18 September 2003 02:49 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.roughtraderecords.com/animate2.gif

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 18 September 2003 02:50 (twenty-two years ago)

ever been in one of those smokers lounges at the airport? i tried it once, never again. as soon as i opened the door i was smothered by thick smoke and began to cough immediately. sitting in there was just awful, i didnt finish my cigarette ( major deviation from the norm ) and escaped gagging and choking.
they didnt have adequate ventilation, obviously. but why the hell not! in a smokers lounge for crissake!!
it was sydney international airport btw. do not try it if you go there.

― donna (donna), Thursday, 18 September 2003 04:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Smokers lounges can be sooo hardcore. The one at Helsinki airport is a 15ft square glass panelled room. You can smoke by osmosis. In London Gatwick they have a small cattle pen with perspex screen in the middle of the main lounge - probably designed to shame smokers.

Have you noticed that they always have crap ashtrays in these places? They have the kind that you can't actually put the thing out so the inner tray is full of still-smouldering butts.

― Alfie (Alfie), Thursday, 18 September 2003 08:06 (twenty-two years ago)

We have "smoking lounges" at the office - glass cages with crap ventilation (good ashtrays though!) - I spend lots of time in the one on my floor - that's where all the action (and the juicy gossip & mean talk of the bosses) is!

That said, the downside to the smoking areas is that had they not existed I would probably smoke much less, since it's 4 floors and 2 cardlock doors to get outside...

― Hanna (Hanna), Thursday, 18 September 2003 08:33 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaahhoooooooooooo.
I want a cigarette, but I don't want to start a new thread. But it'll be a week in 12 hours. A full week without. And boy do I feel great. Except for...will power will power will power.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Ask Dave B how he was feeling at about 2pm on Saturday.

(then ask him what he did at 2.30pm)

― Mark C (Mark C), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

did he tell anybody to go fuck themselves for no reason? like I'll probably do to the next fucker who says anything to me. stupid fucking fuckers.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)

actually, I sometimes think I might just be using this whole quitting smoking thing for an excuse to EAT EVERYTHING and BE AN ASSHOLE.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey,
I think I might write a self-help book. EAT EVERYTHING AND BE AN ASSHOLE: qutting smoking the H.Mann way

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

anything

― dyson (dyson), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Horace, have you done that project I asked you for? I don't mean to hassle you, but it's almost a week late and you *did* promise it'd be on my desk first thing this morning. And another thing - some of the guys have complained about your bad temper lately. Do you think you could try and be a bit more of a team player? Yeah? Geat.

― Mark C (Mark C), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey fuck you buddy. I'm not paid to take your crap. Well, I sort of am, but that's not the point.
The point is, hey fuck you. Also, fuck you buddddday!
I'll be a team player when you provide a uniform and athletic support cup.

And I do mean EVERYTHING, dyson.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

dirty fuckers.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 27 October 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

eep

― dyson (dyson), Monday, 27 October 2003 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

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