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sorry if anyone's already linked to this, but i had a look and couldn't see one:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/online/story/0,3605,1048690,00.html

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 25 September 2003 05:29 (twenty-two years ago)

B-b-but Reynolds isn't a hack! Sob!

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 25 September 2003 05:41 (twenty-two years ago)

(Not being sarcastic, btw. And yeah, I'm up early.)

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 25 September 2003 05:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Congrats to Tom and Simon! (That article was totally bashing America btw.)

― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 25 September 2003 05:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Was there really a backlash against Boy In Da Corner before it came out? I honestly didn't notice but then again I'm not the most assiduous blog-reader.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 25 September 2003 05:47 (twenty-two years ago)

A fair enough article, I think, though it's odd seeing our little world 'fixed' as both an alternative to and a breeding ground for conventional music media.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 25 September 2003 06:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Ewing represents

Can't argue with that. Congrats!

― Sam (chirombo), Thursday, 25 September 2003 06:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah I was dreading i) it not appearing, ii) looking a twat and neither happened. (The one thing in there which I didn't say (though it isn't directly attributed to me) is that I could make/have made a living as a music journalist. I think I could have become a music journo but that's a different thing entirely!)

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 25 September 2003 06:10 (twenty-two years ago)

No link to ILX either which is probably a blessing (though we'll make the FT one more prominent today for any interested browsers)

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 25 September 2003 06:15 (twenty-two years ago)

ha the thought of Conor McNicholas spying on blogs ! but the plank carries on with the same few bands week-in-week-out aimed at teenage rockers.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 25 September 2003 07:01 (twenty-two years ago)

haha tom u come out fantastic! yr modesty makes reynolds the dilettante hurrah

― prima fassy (bob), Thursday, 25 September 2003 07:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Great piece... couldn't have appeared at a better time either, considering FreakyTrigger is revitalised at the moment.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 25 September 2003 07:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Hooray! well done!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 25 September 2003 07:28 (twenty-two years ago)

haha the FT home page is still patiently waiting for the Wire readers to leave!

We'll be fine anyway as long as there isn't a thread with Guardian in the title and a link to the Vice thread.

Aw, bollocks.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 25 September 2003 08:42 (twenty-two years ago)

well done tom - pleased this worked out so well...
really liked the bit about ilx being a place where "bloggers trade insights and insults"! was a pretty nice piece but i really don't see what insight McNicholas had to offer - he seems to crop uyp everywher and not say anything. and, for what it's worth, you could make a living as a music journalist - but only just

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 25 September 2003 08:58 (twenty-two years ago)

and i mean that as in "only just make a living" in the finacial sense, not any comment on yr talents!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 25 September 2003 08:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I certainly can't make a living on what IPC Media pays me! Never mind, when CoM The Book comes out, maybe it'll do well enough to get me on the pound-per-word ladder...yep Carlin, dream on...

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:04 (twenty-two years ago)

''No link to ILX either which is probably a blessing''

w-w-why?! ;)

anyway, congrats.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:04 (twenty-two years ago)

don't settle for a pound a word, marcello. vanity fair pay $5 a word minimum i believe. not bad money for interviewing foxy hollywood ingenues.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Print titles such as The Village Voice and The Seattle Weekly have recently revitalised their music coverage by bringing onboard music bloggers.

[bows]

and thanks for the props, Tom (and Simon?)

― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:09 (twenty-two years ago)

GO TO BED MATOS!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Heh that was me I think MM. The interviewer asked me if any papers were actually hiring bloggers and that was what sprang to mind.

(NB thanks to this article FT now has a readership bigger than Bang! and X-Ray COMBINED!!!!!)

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:12 (twenty-two years ago)

it did in the first place

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:12 (twenty-two years ago)

holy fuck, just noticed they link it at the bottom! that is GREAT! thanks again!

― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmm - I can't imagine many of the bloggers I read trading the blogosphere for the somewhat thinner atmosphere of the NME.

― Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Bring on the job offers!! haha

Well done Tom!

― David. (Cozen), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:31 (twenty-two years ago)

"Good informed writing is good wherever it is. We keep our eyes and ears open. You never know - there might be people we want to nick for the NME."

― David. (Cozen), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:32 (twenty-two years ago)

hmmmmmmmm...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Wheeler suggests that in future, the record industry will treat influential blogs like any other form of media. "If there are people who are influential in a particular scene, you're going to want them to act as taste makers," he says.

YIKES!!!!! BEARDS FOR ALL!!!!

― chris (chris), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Conor would look much better with a beard. So would Dizzee come to think of it though maybe he's a little young to carry it off.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I have only seen Simon Reynolds once but if he had had a beard then he'd have been rocking the Jesus look.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Were you in the same room as Conor, Tom?

― David. (Cozen), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:38 (twenty-two years ago)

The same MSN Chatroom David, back in my grooming days.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:43 (twenty-two years ago)

1988.

― David. (Cozen), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:44 (twenty-two years ago)

(real answer no, my impression of him is taken from his talking head TV presence)

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:45 (twenty-two years ago)

i had a beard until last week, directly inspired by meeting tom briefly

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:49 (twenty-two years ago)

''Conor would look much better with a beard. So would Dizzee come to think of it though maybe he's a little young to carry it off.''

you're never too young!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Grow it back Dave. My five months of beardlessness earlier this year were a profoundly fallow time.

― Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:52 (twenty-two years ago)

well i only reqally grow a beard for the sole purpose of getting my money's worth when i go to the turkish barber down the road from me who does proper cutthroat-razor shaves and hot towels for £4... would be a bargain for tom!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:55 (twenty-two years ago)

You only grow beard to have it shaved off? What is this lunacy?

― Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:56 (twenty-two years ago)

4 squids is good value tho.

― Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:57 (twenty-two years ago)

A thread about The Guardian and you end up talking about beards. Anyone wearing sandals?

― James Ball (James Ball), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm wearing shoes without socks if that counts.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 25 September 2003 10:01 (twenty-two years ago)

that is only one step away from posting on the interweb saying: "i have no underwear on"!!!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 25 September 2003 10:03 (twenty-two years ago)

commando is not encourage in my workplace.

― Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Thursday, 25 September 2003 10:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Are there any pictures in the real life paper? I could go buy it I suppose.

They should have had Tom, Conor and Simon in a pyramid formation with Conor on top.

It wouldn't have been symbolic.

― David. (Cozen), Thursday, 25 September 2003 10:10 (twenty-two years ago)

They should have had Tom, Conor and Simon in a pyramid formation with Conor on top.

this sounds disgusting

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 25 September 2003 10:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Like on motor bikes! Or gymnastics! You know what I meant.

― David. (Cozen), Thursday, 25 September 2003 10:15 (twenty-two years ago)

There's a big picture of Dizzee Rascal waving the Mercury around except they've photoshopped the Mercury into a colossal inflatable keyboard.

Me Conor and Simon giving it some Dumpy's Rusty Nuts posing? That would have roXoRed, another instance where the beard would come in handy.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 25 September 2003 10:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Skipping 21 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

))))))

sorry, that was unsettling me.

― Alan (Alan), Thursday, 25 September 2003 11:16 (twenty-two years ago)

;-)

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 25 September 2003 11:18 (twenty-two years ago)

{kick! (punch! [kick! {punch!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 25 September 2003 11:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Andrew, stop bullying Alan!

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 25 September 2003 11:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Nice article, nothing creepy at all like I had feared. Congrats, Tom!

― Nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 25 September 2003 11:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Yay indeed for Tom! Lurvly stuff, and fame and fortune for us all (yes?). I also like how this became a thread of beard.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 September 2003 11:32 (twenty-two years ago)

If the Grauniad had come to you instead
It would by this point be a thread
Of hair
Ned

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 25 September 2003 11:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I have been clerihew'd! *thinks* No wait, that's a different format.

I like to think of myself as an Absolom just waiting to crash into a tree.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 September 2003 11:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Great article, Tom! Could have used more dick jokes, though.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 25 September 2003 12:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Bags of them even.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 September 2003 12:18 (twenty-two years ago)

martin, if you look at the graph at the bottom of the referrals page, it looks good (NB i do not look at this every day, so maybe it always does a big lunchtime/meerkans waking up jump, but it looks good to me)

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 25 September 2003 12:32 (twenty-two years ago)

It does always do one Carsmile but 123 people at lunchtime is still pretty good.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 25 September 2003 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Listen, I don't feel like reading this entire thread, I just wanted to say that "Tom Ewing's network of internet sites" is the most ominous goddamned thing I've read so far this morning, wtf? It's like a coven, or like some sort of superdrive superfuture bad guys, we are the Matrix or something.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 25 September 2003 12:35 (twenty-two years ago)

PHEAR THE ILX GESTALT.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 25 September 2003 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)

They couldn't just refer to it as, like, Freaky Trigger or some kind of giant heading? No, it's the "Tom Ewing Network of Sites"--haha it actually sounds like a telethon.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 25 September 2003 12:40 (twenty-two years ago)

b-b-but we are a telethon! (click on "Contributions" above)

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 25 September 2003 12:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha make me.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 25 September 2003 12:54 (twenty-two years ago)

S-s-s-o Ewing is responsible for the Rascal geezer?

Now we know.

He should be ashamed of himself.

― the pinefox, Thursday, 25 September 2003 13:01 (twenty-two years ago)

What font is FT and what size?

― David. (Cozen), Thursday, 25 September 2003 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Ally, you read the wrong feature. The Myth Of Satan's Web is the real ILX story in the Guardian.

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 25 September 2003 13:21 (twenty-two years ago)

'It is littered it seems not just with gurning paedophiles, but with spotty-faced science students "stealing music"; mad terrorists swapping bomb recipes; snake-oil salesmen desperate to increase the size of your penis; adverts for Viagra, Russian brides and cheap loans. A refuge for the socially dysfunctional and the sexually perverted.'

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 25 September 2003 13:22 (twenty-two years ago)

bang on!

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 25 September 2003 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)

i mean, they've really got my number...

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 25 September 2003 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

science students?

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 25 September 2003 13:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm a "music blogger"!!

― adaml (adaml), Sunday, 28 September 2003 00:30 (twenty-two years ago)

In hip hop trousers!

― adaml (adaml), Sunday, 28 September 2003 00:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I wasn't aware that we're part of Tow Ewing's axis of evil.

― Andrew (enneff), Sunday, 28 September 2003 00:59 (twenty-two years ago)

... but I like it!

― Andrew (enneff), Sunday, 28 September 2003 00:59 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.mwstedmanproducts.com/Images/27082.jpg

― Annouschka Magnatech (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 28 September 2003 01:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I did patiently explain to the guy about how ILM wasn't my site, I'd just set it running on a free messageboard service and now it was run by Andrew and had been coded by Graham but obviously the subtleties were lost a bit.

― Tom (Groke), Sunday, 28 September 2003 09:00 (twenty-two years ago)

science students?

That's proper magazine talk for "nerds."

― nickn (nickn), Monday, 29 September 2003 06:11 (twenty-two years ago)

grauniad: so tom, tell me about your website
tom: MY EMPIRE GROWS BY THE DAY, SOON I SHALL RULE THE ENTIRE BLOGOSPHERE!!!!
grauniad: oh that's nice, so what's this ILM then?
tom: THEY ARE MY PAWNS AND DO AS I SAY, RILE THEM NOT OR THEY SHALL RISE AND CRUSH YOU!!!!!!

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 29 September 2003 08:58 (twenty-two years ago)

that makes sense in the Tom Ewing voice. and also he could actually crush all of us.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 29 September 2003 09:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Oi!

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 29 September 2003 09:06 (twenty-two years ago)

... with his army of flying monkeys, is I'm sure what Julio meant to say.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 29 September 2003 09:12 (twenty-two years ago)

ILX: 'Tom, if you had created a virus on your PC. Something contagious and infectious that deleted on contact. A virus that would destroy all other blogs... would you allow its use?'
Tom: 'It is an interesting conjecture.'
ILX: 'But would you do it?'
Tom: 'Yes. Yes. To hold in my hand, a floppy disk that contained such power. To know that blog-life and death on such a scale was my choice. To know that the tiny pressure on my thumb, enough to click send, would end everything. Yes. I would do it. That power would set me up above the gods. And through FreakyTrigger I shall have that power!'

― Alan (Alan), Monday, 29 September 2003 09:17 (twenty-two years ago)

'If someone who knew the future, pointed out a message board to you and told you that that board would grow up totally rubbish, to be a ruthless addiction who would waste millions of hours... could you then delete that board?'

'We're talking about ILX. The most total waste of time invented. You must delete it. You must complete your mission for the Trife Lords!'

'Do I have the right? Simply touch one button and that's it. ILX ceases to exist. Hundreds of millions of people, thousands of generations can live productively... in peace, and never even know the word "Cockfarmer".'

'Then why wait? If it was a virus or some sort of bug you were destroying, you wouldn't hesitate.'

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 29 September 2003 09:31 (twenty-two years ago)

even better! one day all threads will look like this.

― Alan (Alan), Monday, 29 September 2003 09:41 (twenty-two years ago)

haven't read this thread, but well done Tom!

"I Love Music, a hugely popular discussion board where music bloggers swap ideas and insults"
damn, I knew I've been doing something wrong all these years

― Jeff W (zebedee), Monday, 29 September 2003 12:19 (twenty-two years ago)

idiot.

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Monday, 29 September 2003 12:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha Tom TS: "Genesis of the Daleks" vs _The Ancestor Cell_?

My God, I'm a gigantic nerd.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 September 2003 12:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Tom is really more Dr. Doom than Dr. Who.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Monday, 29 September 2003 12:40 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...

"Bloggers"?
Weept.

― Øystein (Øystein), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

It's all gone a bit Pete Tong since then, hasn't it?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

I'm back to save the Guardian next Friday, btw.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

Not worth saving.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, let's bombard the paper wherever you see one, preventing their normal readership from getting one! That'll show 'em.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

I find placing one copy of the Independent atop the Grauniad pile an excellent sales deterrent.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2009/02/headlines2.jpg

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 28 February 2009 21:07 (seventeen years ago)

― Aimless, Sunday, 1 March 2009 20:08 (seventeen years ago)

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