Edward Said is dead

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Just announced on the BBC news crawl, more soon. Died of leukemia.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 September 2003 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)

WTF

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 25 September 2003 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/25/obituaries/25CND-SAID.html?ex=1065153600&en=fdee6033bbfb9bd1&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/manhattan/ny-saidobit0925,0,1201707.story?coll=nyc-manheadlines-manhattan

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 25 September 2003 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)

One of the kids in my English class in Spring semester refused to write a paper on the assigned reading, "Orientalism" by Said, because, and I quote, "I won't read anything written by a man who throws rocks at my people" (the kid was Israeli). WTF? Whatever, I actually didn't know he was ill.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 25 September 2003 16:14 (twenty-two years ago)

he's been extremely ill for several years, w.remissions etc

he was photographed several years in israel or nearby throwing a small stone at a building or a sign or something

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 25 September 2003 16:17 (twenty-two years ago)

No, my "WTF" was on the basis of the entirely asinine theory behind the comment more than the validity of it (though the validity of it is, at best, sketchy anyway).

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 25 September 2003 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)

he was doing it mainly btw bcz the photographer thought it wd make a good picture: there wasn't anyone on the other end of the throw

it wz a bit of a dumb gift to his opponents

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 25 September 2003 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)

student in bad reason for not doing assignment shockah!

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 25 September 2003 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

haha yeah but the thing was he was so belligerent about it, like hysterical. And so I guess he wrote about something else but his paper was the one "workshopped" in class and we all gave him bad marks cos we had no fucking clue until after the fact as to him writing about something else that NONE of us were assigned to read (or had, in fact, ever read). I don't remember what he wrote about but it was a crap paper anyway.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 25 September 2003 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)

he was photographed several years in israel or nearby throwing a small stone at a building or a sign or something

I think it was on the Lebanese Israeli border, and he was throwing a stone at a possibly unmanned Israeli bunker. or at the border fence. or something.

I think the Israeli soldiers on the border tend to shoot you if you throw stones at them, so he probably wasn't throwing anything at any of them.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 25 September 2003 16:26 (twenty-two years ago)

wow. i knew he was v. ill, but still...

he was geeta's lecturer for a time, wasn't he?

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Thursday, 25 September 2003 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)

wow this is sad.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 25 September 2003 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Sad loss, espec. for the Palestinian cause. RIP

― stevo (stevo), Thursday, 25 September 2003 17:28 (twenty-two years ago)

this is terrible, one of the greats.

according to his own recounting of the rock throwing story, he was with (at least some of) his family in an area from which Israeli troops had withdrawn leaving old bunkers and bulwarks, waiting for their car, tossing rocks with his son, a baseball player.

― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 25 September 2003 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

this is awful. he wrote about his illness, but it was a while ago, i had naively thought perhaps he had improved.

i was once in an american foreign policy course where we read said and a classmate said to me, "isn't he biased, i mean being an arab and all?"

this is awful awful awful.

― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 25 September 2003 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Only found out about him through the broadsheets over the last ten years, and reading his articles brought me a perspective I don't get through the rest of my media. I'm grateful, hope others will be as outspoken.

― nick.K (nick.K), Thursday, 25 September 2003 17:48 (twenty-two years ago)

what nick said.

The world need more eloquent upper class dissidents.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 25 September 2003 17:59 (twenty-two years ago)

"orientalism" was such a major flashpoint, if that's the word, when i was in college, about 15 years after it was published. it was the central text in a debate that occupied so many class discussions and beyond. he had a major impact. i haven't sorted out my feelings on his work quite yet, there are things in it i adore and things that bother me to no end, but.... he was above all humane, committed, an ambassador for civilization (not in the rumsfeld/burlusconi sense)

― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 25 September 2003 18:02 (twenty-two years ago)

man. RIP.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 25 September 2003 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Said was an extremely articulate and compassionate fellow, this is a bummer to say the least. :(

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 25 September 2003 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I must actually read Orientalism sometime... although I do kind of suspect that I am an orientalist.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 25 September 2003 20:16 (twenty-two years ago)

i think that he was the best bridge we had between the ancient world, the old world and the new world, he wrote for cairo, london, and new york--and lived in those places too.

he was an enemy of the present american adminstration because he was an enemy of tyranny, and colonialism.

this is like a blow to the gut, we needed him.

― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 25 September 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

very sad news
i've been meaning to read more of his work,i've only really read the odd article,but he always came across as very interesting...
and as others have said,at times like these the world needs people like him more than ever at the moment...

― robin (robin), Thursday, 25 September 2003 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

no!!!!!!!!!!!

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 25 September 2003 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)

(geeta, i don't know if you are saying 'no' to what i said above or just to the world in general, but i realized all of 5 seconds ago that i was misremembering a post of yours on a stephen jay gould thread)(i think)

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Thursday, 25 September 2003 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

This is sad news, obviously. Having been fed a caricature of Said's work at university, when I got around to finally reading some for myself, I was enormously pleased and surprised to find such a lucid, critical intelligence at work. The best tribute would be for everyone to go and read something by Said -- Orientalism is, I think, the first major work of 'theory' to make it into the Penguin Modern Classics (or is there an edition of Fanon out there?, I can't remember).

― alext (alext), Thursday, 25 September 2003 20:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I was in Paris when Gadamer died, and found out from the front page of a paper on a newstand: is this news likely to make the front page of any of the British papers?

― alext (alext), Thursday, 25 September 2003 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)

possibly not with the end of the hutton enquiry, except for the guardian, I predict that it will be a horizontal story at the bottom of page one.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 25 September 2003 21:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I am in love with his first wife.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 25 September 2003 21:30 (twenty-two years ago)

"no" to the world in general, mitch -- he's the latest in a series of favorite punXoR icons to die this year :( i never had him as a prof (i doubt he taught very much over the past several years as he was real sick), but he was a prof at columbia, where i did my master's

― geeta, Friday, 26 September 2003 03:00 (twenty-two years ago)

:-(

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 26 September 2003 03:15 (twenty-two years ago)

this is really sad.

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Friday, 26 September 2003 06:00 (twenty-two years ago)

it was the main story on elpais.es and lemonde.fr, but I haven't seen the print editions...

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 26 September 2003 06:37 (twenty-two years ago)

He didn't teach much over at least the past 10 years, as he was a VERY DISTINGUISHED PROFESSOR.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 26 September 2003 07:43 (twenty-two years ago)

yes he had some extremely impressive title at columbia like <> maybe?

― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 26 September 2003 10:02 (twenty-two years ago)

and here it is:

http://www.aijac.org.au/review/2000/images/_edward_said.jpg

― DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 26 September 2003 10:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm sad Ed Said is a bit dead

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 26 September 2003 10:52 (twenty-two years ago)

what sterling said

― etc, Friday, 26 September 2003 11:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought they were having some kind of thing for Said last night because the entire campus was like half shut down and all these official vehicles were there and secret service men and shit, so I automatically assumed, oh, Said.

No, actually Putin and some kind of Russian little league all-star team were playing a baseball game on the South Lawn, which is really tiny, more like a dog run, against some b-level Mets players. ???

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 26 September 2003 12:07 (twenty-two years ago)

What Ed Said.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 26 September 2003 12:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I am saddened by the loss of a voice of sanity.

― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Friday, 26 September 2003 12:48 (twenty-two years ago)

This afternoon I walked out of hospital and wandered almost accidentally on to an anti-war demonstration.

In Trafalgar Square the head of the Muslim students stood up and extended her condolences to the family of 'the great writer, Edward Said'.

But, I thought, that means -- no!!

What N said.

― the pinefox, Saturday, 27 September 2003 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

He was lecturing a bit this semester, actually: just two weeks ago a friend in the course he was doing was complaining that it had been cancelled, and now he had to find a replacement. Now he will have to feel guilty for complaining, the poor guy.

― nabiscothing, Saturday, 27 September 2003 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm sad Ed Said is a bit dead

it's pronounced "sigh-eed."

the french version of quote marks screwed up my last post. i mean to say, i think his title at columbia was "university professor" which always had a ring of "this place is yours" to me. impressive.

― amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 27 September 2003 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

seventeen years pass...

oh snap

"Edward Said appears to have been an intellectual as much as political version of Forrest Gump"

https://www.hurstpublishers.com/said-and-done/

― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Thursday, 19 August 2021 23:29 (four years ago)

Said and Done

ok, BOOOOOOO

― criminally negligible (harbl), Thursday, 19 August 2021 23:37 (four years ago)

Aiui the been they're reviewing is not great

― plax (ico), Friday, 20 August 2021 10:04 (four years ago)

Aiui the been they're reviewing is not great

― plax (ico), Friday, 20 August 2021 10:04 (four years ago)

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