KING KONG!!

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Mike Hanle y (mike), Monday, 29 September 2003 08:32 (twenty-two years ago)

can we use this thread to discuss the 1939 film, its intentions, how it may be subtextually related to racial politics, the several poems that it has birthed, esp. by Odjante(sp)

as well, can we discuss what peter jackson will do with his remake, and what was wrong with the remake in the mid70s with jessica lange.

anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 29 September 2003 22:12 (twenty-two years ago)

The 70s one was one of the first movies I remember my parents taking me to. The best part is when he climbs the WTC.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 29 September 2003 22:14 (twenty-two years ago)

The 70s version is one of the first movies I remember seeing too! I remember nothing about it except it being absolutely terrifying to me. I don't know why I never bothered seeing it again, it doesn't seem to be on television much (unlike the original).

Nicolars (Nicole), Monday, 29 September 2003 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I also think I saw it as a lad, and what I remember most is the part where they implant an artificial heart into the big fella (?)

Sir Leee (Leee), Monday, 29 September 2003 22:25 (twenty-two years ago)

"King Kong the album,
Comedy cabaret ...
Futeristic vaudevillians,
Thanks for pressing play."

Above = my brain's word substitutions for the opening piece on Momus' 'Ping Pong'.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 01:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Did I ever see the seventies version, I don't know...I knew it existed but that's about it. Didn't it star Jessica Lange and Jeff Bridges? And John Agar, I think!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 01:43 (twenty-two years ago)

and Charles Grodin and that dude from Benson!

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 01:48 (twenty-two years ago)

The cocaine Dino laid on for his cast must have been of the purest sort.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 01:52 (twenty-two years ago)

you should see it Ned - it's pretty good!

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 01:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmm! But would it work on a double bill with Orca?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 02:00 (twenty-two years ago)

King Kong Lives is the best of them all. (not really)

ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 02:03 (twenty-two years ago)

watch it with the incredible shrinking woman remake! you can have a late 70s remakes of women n gorillas bonding flix filmfest

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 02:04 (twenty-two years ago)

plus at the end of the incredible shrinking woman remake the gorilla flips the bird! top that koko!

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 02:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I've been to this zoo numerous times, this is the same gorilla that hurled turds over the glass to unsuspecting onlookers. I love gorillas.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 12:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Kong Turns Critic

The man said, "He is a brilliant
special effect, given the budget
and the film technology of the thirties,
but the story is hopelessly contrived,
even allowing for the strong mythic
element." The woman said, "No,
he looks too much like a stuffed toy,
a huge piece of period kitsch,
ludicrous when he tries for tragedy."
The man shook his hair and made smoke,
insisting, "Verisimilitude is irrelevant,
as in any Gothic melodrama."
I marvelled at these mammoth words
unfolding from such little brains. I ate
the man first, then the woman, both stringy,
but then what’s not these days.

William Trowbridge

bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 12:44 (twenty-two years ago)

byron i love you.

can i wrap you in my clumsy fist.
like kong and fay wray
w/o the sexual tension.

anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Nobody cry when Jaws die.

Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Thats because they were laughing at Robert Shaw.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

"i think that the worst thing about King Kong coming to your town would be when the kids look up and see the giant genitalia."

-jack handey

Emilymv (Emilymv), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Jaws isn't really a tragic figure like Kong. Except in Jaws 4 which has a lot of pathos if you watch it from the shark's point of view.

ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)

i think we're gonna need a bigger zoo!

Emilymv (Emilymv), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Nobody cry when Jaws die.

Haha! Sean I kiss you. Dino is truly a master of English.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 17:56 (twenty-two years ago)

(anthony - Trowbridge has an entire book of Kong poems. Google his name + Kong and you should find a handful more around the web.)

bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

byron.
can you have my children ?

anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 23:14 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

King Kong the movie is, from start to finish, built around cinema - it’s designed to look good as a film; it’s conceived around the technology of film. And revels in it - the stop motion animation, the elaborate mattes and models and process shots. It's set up to look right on screen. They aren't trying to hide these things - they are presenting us with an amazing spectacle, and expect us to marvel in it, all of it. The planning, the formal properties of the film, are made more explicit by being prepared by Denham's talk. His attempts to film on the island, his attempts to stage-manage the villagers or the fights with Kong, etc., set up the formal structure of the rest of the film - the parallel imagery on the island and in NY (the wall on the island serving as stage and curtain, that recurs in the second half; the parallels in how Ann and Kong are staked out for display; the parallel battles on Kong's mountain and the empire state building, complete with dangerous birds. Even details like the several scenes in both parts of the film of Kong fishing around caves/apartments for people.) The depiction of the act of making a film sets you up to wonder at the artistry of the story proper when it gets going.

It's reminiscent of one of the other outstanding figures of cinema of the period - Warner Brothers' musicals, especially Busby Berkeley's parts. Berkeley’s numbers are almost parables for the shift from stage to screen. Their placement in the films (in 42nd Street, at least), and their overall structure, almost always enacts the shift from stage to screen. The numbers usually follow that pattern - starting on something like a real stage, then opening up toward film. First (usually) by shooting them from impossible places (the flies, through the floor), but eventually abandoning all sense of the spatial unity and integrity of the stage. The space in “42nd Street” (the song) or “By a Waterfall” or “Shanghai Lil” is pure cinematic space - much of it designed explicitly for the camera (and for editing), certainly constructing the three dimensional space of film. Interestingly, while this abandons the "real" space of the theater, it moves toward a "real" space of films - itself referring to the "real" space of, um - reality.

http://listeningear.blogspot.com/2008/08/seventh-art-and-eighth-wonder-of-world.html

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 28 August 2008 14:29 (seventeen years ago)

King Kong is one of my favorite movies. I'm all Will Gainesed out on this level.

Abbott, Thursday, 28 August 2008 18:00 (seventeen years ago)

willis o'brien 4-ever

latebloomer, Thursday, 28 August 2008 19:38 (seventeen years ago)

Except in Jaws 4 which has a lot of pathos if you watch it from the shark's point of view.

i would love to know what the hell i was talking about here!

ryan, Thursday, 28 August 2008 20:02 (seventeen years ago)

eight years pass...

Although I've seen bits of it over the years, I finally watched the OG version last night. Given the era, the obvious effort involved is pretty impressive. Kong was the best actor in the thing. I've been watching a lot of '30s genre pictures lately but this one held my attention the most and felt the least like people clumsily trying to get a handle on a fledgling medium/genre.

Any thoughts on Son of Kong? I've heard that it isn't bad.

Our Meals Are Hot And Fresh! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 13:06 (nine years ago)

the 70s version is classic for J. Lange alone ! the latest version was boring/bad. the original is classic, I suppose but I don't think I'll ever want to watch it again.

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 13:15 (nine years ago)

two years pass...

The Broadway musical opened last night! The NY Times had two critics review it ("soul-crushing").

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 9 November 2018 19:25 (seven years ago)


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