Polish Food and Drink

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I'm going to Poland next week. What should I look out for, eating/drinking wise?

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:57 (twenty years ago) link

Hope you're not vegetarian. Lots of stews with stringy bits of meat in them. Bleugh.

Whereabouts you going?

Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:00 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not vegetarian at all.

Warsaw, and Bialystock briefly, but mostly Biolewieza (sp?) and Krakow.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:01 (twenty years ago) link

Take a bunch of sandwiches with you. The food in Poland is vomitous. Unless you like to spread lard on stale bread. And then eat it. Pirogies are vile. Go to Italian restaurants and eat simple pizzas.

Skottie, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:03 (twenty years ago) link

BIGOS. Its like a fifteen day old stew that every day they add more sausages to. Food of my forefathers.

Pickels round that way a re pretty good too, not to mention bits and bobs of fried cheese.

Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:04 (twenty years ago) link

paczki - polish donuts
kishka (not sure if that is the polish spelling) - the polish version of black pudding
naleshniki (again, probably not the right spelling) - kinda crepe like, filled with a farmers/curd cheese usually

also have polish sausages (kielbasa) and peirogi's by the plateful.

marianna, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:05 (twenty years ago) link

Why in god's name would you want to eat black pudding, polish or otherwise?

The beer is pretty good. The food is indescribably awful.

Kraków's a pretty city, at least the old center and Kazimierz, where there are a lot of cafes and pubs. The big churches are fantastically decorated and cared for.

I'm sorry, but the food is rotten.

Skottie, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:10 (twenty years ago) link

Dislike of black pudding = no common ground food-wise.

I am still a bit nervous cos even among sane people Polish food doesn't have a great rep.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:15 (twenty years ago) link

Tom, there is a nice Polish/Mexican restaurant *somewhere* in London (near Marble Arch, maybe?). If you are interested I could use my contacts to locate it and you could sample Polish food there.

They do borscht in Poland, I think, which is TASTY. also vodka with bits of gold in it.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:17 (twenty years ago) link

Why in god's name would you want to eat black pudding, polish or otherwise?

because it's one of the foods of the gods?

chris (chris), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:17 (twenty years ago) link

I realize I'm hardly in the sane people category, but I went to Krakow with a group of people from four or five countries. Everybody was surprised and revolted by the food.

Skottie, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:17 (twenty years ago) link

Is the food really that bad? This thread reminds me of what every other country always used to say about British food, and now suddenly you get toad in the hole on posh restaurant menus.

I love pierogis. The polish bar in Holborn does sausages that they cut criss-cross and heat up and they go like hedgehogs.

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:18 (twenty years ago) link

The schmalz looks like big dirty mounds of greasy snow, and you're supposed to eat it on bread. If only it were big mounds of greasy snow instead of big dirty mounds of rendered pork fat. There's very little way to put a positive spin on it.

Skottie, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:22 (twenty years ago) link

I love most Polish food, I love a lot of breads, which I supposed might be Jewish rather than Polish, like the dark ryes. Also I love Golabki, which is mince/rice rolled in a cabbage leaf and cooked slowly in a tomato sauce (polish version of stuffed vine leaves). What about Polish cookies like Chrusciki? Also, the Borscht should be very good.

Seems to me that Polish food is getting a lot of bad press from people on this board who haven't had much *variety* of it.

marianna, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:22 (twenty years ago) link

maybe so.

Skottie, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:23 (twenty years ago) link

Damn, I was looking for some advice about polishing food...

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:24 (twenty years ago) link

the polish/mexican place is Al Hamra in Mayfair in the shepherd's market. cozy

Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:24 (twenty years ago) link

Tom, are you aware that in Tooting you are just around the corner from the best Polish dining experience in London? TehPolish White Eagle Club (211 Balham High Street)
(Quite a frightening link here:
http://pages.britishlibrary.net/tooting/entertainment.html)

Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:25 (twenty years ago) link

use the schmalz as polish. Everything will come out with a nice shiny gleam. But don't get it on your clothes. Or in your mouth.

Skottie, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:25 (twenty years ago) link

oops I mean "L'Autre Bistro"

Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:25 (twenty years ago) link

The schmalz looks like big dirty mounds of greasy snow, and you're supposed to eat it on bread. If only it were big mounds of greasy snow instead of big dirty mounds of rendered pork fat. There's very little way to put a positive spin on it.

you mean you just didn't? You'll be telling me next you don't like beef dripping

chris (chris), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:25 (twenty years ago) link

A restaurant described as polish/mexican place is Al Hamra in Mayfair is unlikely to have much to do with Poland, Mexico, or Mayfair

Skottie, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:26 (twenty years ago) link

touche, chris!

Skottie, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:27 (twenty years ago) link

As Madchen pointed out, the Polish Bar in Holborn is a great place to get a preview. The pierogis roxor.

Baaderist (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:33 (twenty years ago) link

I mean, check out these recipes. Don't they all look great? The Fire Vodka!

Patio in Shepherd's Bush is good for Polish food too(not as good as home cooking though).

marianna, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:33 (twenty years ago) link

..and do stock up on the Zubrowska.

Baaderist (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:35 (twenty years ago) link

You MUST cook me some soon Marianna. When our house is fixed. The Polish place on West End Green in Hampstead is alright too, but I have heard very good reports of the White Eagle Club.

Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:35 (twenty years ago) link

fried cauliflower! get this.

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:36 (twenty years ago) link

Krakow is beautiful. The cloth market building thing in the main square is stunning and the castle up the hill is lovely. In the suburbs is the factory where Oskar Schindler worked (Emalia? Something like that).

Even better, there is a Pizza Hut in the old city.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:43 (twenty years ago) link

Polish cuisine fucken roXor. Best [splutters] 'anniversary meal' I've had (outta three) was at dinky Polish restaurant on Oxford's louche Cowley Road.

Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:50 (twenty years ago) link

Agree with Enrique, all this Polish food hate is unjustified, but then again my family is from Western Ukraine and the food is very similar to Polish. Admittedly, its a bit on the bland side but so what.

In Krakow I went to this excellent Polish restaurant; in English its called "under the rams head" but I forget the Polish name. Also in Krakow is a good French restaurant call "Cyrano de [you know the one, I can't spell French]" if you are sick of Polish. And go to a deli and try some of the sausages and cheeses.

fletrejet, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:13 (twenty years ago) link

i hear that burgerpipeski's are good over there.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:17 (twenty years ago) link

pierogi are deeeeelish. potato platzke deeeeelish also!

meat, potatos and lard - who couldn't love Polish food?

stevie (stevie), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:25 (twenty years ago) link

I had fried cauliflower with my lunch and god it's good.

Mark C (Mark C), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:25 (twenty years ago) link

i think mark c is my tastebud doppelganger

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:26 (twenty years ago) link

Zubrowka & apple juice and Zubrowka Bloody Marys are two of the best drinks ever invented.

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:49 (twenty years ago) link

polish food does not deserve the hate! i ate very, very well in krakow. stuffed cabbage and pierogies are good bets, as are kielbasa and bigos. nothing is that weird, although it is very meat-heavy save for certain varieties of pierogi. skottie is otm in one respect, which is that for whatever reason one can often get good thin-crust pizzas in post-comm eastern europe. (i lived on those in prague - food there is another story.)
i can't remember the names of any of the places i ate in krakow, but there was s cafeteria-style place decorated in pop-art style that had the most amazing simple foods. we called it the pink elephant, because there was a large mural of said beast on one wall.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:58 (twenty years ago) link

I love polish food! shit, lauren, I think I went to that same place when I was in krakow!

now I may be biased due to polish blood flowing through these vines (see: my name), but there are lots of great things to eat there. check out the great & cheap milk bars, which serve lots of cabbage/tater/dairy/mushroom-based foods; potato pancakes, beet stews, fried mushrooms on thin pancakes, pierogis YUM MUTHERFUCKIN YUM!!!

s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:37 (twenty years ago) link

my grandma only ever made the basics: schnitzel, sauerkraut, pierogies and cabbage rolls, but all of it was so so good

also: fried cauliflower!

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:40 (twenty years ago) link

You MUST cook me some soon Marianna.

Next time I cook something Polish, I will make extra for you or invite you over. Seonad might be able to testify to the quality of the Paczki and Peirogis.

marianna, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:47 (twenty years ago) link

Freakin' freak, where's Tad/Eisbar when we need him?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:48 (twenty years ago) link

are we not polish enough?

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:51 (twenty years ago) link

You're plenty Polish. But he takes it to the next level.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:51 (twenty years ago) link

no vowels whatsoever?!

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:52 (twenty years ago) link

You try pronouncing his last name!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:53 (twenty years ago) link

i'm still depressed about mine

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:55 (twenty years ago) link

no comment

s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:56 (twenty years ago) link

we should totally start a club

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:58 (twenty years ago) link

now I wanna know yours!

s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:59 (twenty years ago) link

it basically rhymes with every dirty word ever

in fact it sounds like a filthy act on its own

even the slow kids scored off me in school

thank god for our janitor, mr huck

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 17:00 (twenty years ago) link

i remember eating at a great polish buffet somewhere deep in the polish part of chicago a few years back... jesus, i think i ate twelve different kinds of meat...

stevie (stevie), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 17:54 (twenty years ago) link

i envy Tom/Tico. whereabouts in Poland are you going, anyway? i have family in Wroclaw and Krakow.

i've only been to Poland once ... my relatives cooked fine, and i thought otherwise that the food was OK. then again, i grew up eating pierogies, bigos, kielbasa, kiszke, latkes, sour cream, cucumber-and-dill soup, lotsa cabbage etc., so i'm used it to it. it's like soul food, only for slavs :-) that said, it isn't Italy or France wr2 culinary delights. polish food is like a mishmash of german and russian cuisine, with a lot of jewish cross-influences -- make of that what you will.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 30 October 2003 06:50 (twenty years ago) link

oh yah, i forgot golabki (or "pigs in a blanket" or, more prosaicly, "stuffed cabbage"). you must get golabki -- it's great stuff. god, this is making me want to go home and get some home-cooked!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 30 October 2003 06:54 (twenty years ago) link

My polish grandma makes good Golabki. For some reason every tradish family meal needs pickled beets too, so you might run into those. I also remember when I was young visiting the polish market. I had a good mouthful of horseradish on a cracker which made hell demons manifest on my tongue. Seriously I couldn't taste anything for hours. So, the horseradish is awesome with kielbasa but beware, go light.

sucka (sucka), Thursday, 30 October 2003 09:02 (twenty years ago) link

where is the polish bar in holborn, someone?

cameron, Thursday, 30 October 2003 11:02 (twenty years ago) link

Why in god's name would you want to eat black pudding, polish or otherwise?


What is this mentalism. I am going to cook some black pudding right now.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 30 October 2003 11:04 (twenty years ago) link

I had some last night and it was tremendous, and there was white pudding too, of the Klonakilty brand, which was wubberly.

chris (chris), Thursday, 30 October 2003 11:09 (twenty years ago) link

It's right behind the tube station, in a small alleyway

Baaderist (Fabfunk), Thursday, 30 October 2003 11:11 (twenty years ago) link

I am going to cook some black pudding right now.

What is this mentalism? I am chewing on raw black pudding as I write.

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 30 October 2003 11:16 (twenty years ago) link

Black pudding = vampirism

Eric : Black pudding's very black today, mother...
Mum : Yes it is very black today, dear
Eric: That's very black, that is even the white bits are black...

Skottie, Thursday, 30 October 2003 11:42 (twenty years ago) link

My great-grandmother was from Krakow and had a Polish café in south Minneapolis when my mum was little. This is why my mum can cook sauerkraut with sausage and potatoes, golabki (which she fries in butter rather than cooking in tomato sauce), stroganoff etc. The drink is bison-grass Zubrowka with apple juice on tons of ice - it's gorgeous.

Also don't forget the fifty million types of herring in sauces and jars, with sour cream, dill and lots of black bread.

suzy (suzy), Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:44 (twenty years ago) link

thanks, baaderist

cameron, Thursday, 30 October 2003 14:23 (twenty years ago) link

Search: cheese pierogies and various desserts (kolaczkys, yo!). For some reason any kind of Polish chocolate tends to be hazelnut flavoured.
Destroy: everything else. This thread reminds me that I'm going to have to go to my grandmother's on Thanksgiving and smell it all. Oh, Jesus.

Sarah Pedal (call mr. lee), Thursday, 30 October 2003 15:49 (twenty years ago) link

Is fried cauliflower Polish? I fry cauliflower often, but I always just associate the practice of breading-and-deep-frying [insert random food here] with American foodstuffs.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 30 October 2003 16:16 (twenty years ago) link

where is the polish bar in holborn, someone?

I think its just called the polish vodka bar, though i seem to remember my polish ex-gf calling it something in polish.


hey! everyone should go to daquise in south kensington! amazing pierogi, fiiiine-assed pork cutlet! and the pork knuckle - mmmm...

stevie (stevie), Thursday, 30 October 2003 16:19 (twenty years ago) link

I made my own pierogies last night. MMMMMM starchy.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 30 October 2003 17:25 (twenty years ago) link

i made potato platzke a few years ago, following an interet recipe; they were fine, if a bit greasy. i packed the surplus platzke in a plastic box and then placed em in my refrigerator; a day later they had turned BLACK. very scary...

stevie (stevie), Thursday, 30 October 2003 17:30 (twenty years ago) link

pierogies are the terrible result of the poles hearing that marco polo had been to china and brought back ravioli to italy. the ravioli turned out great, jiao-zi in china are great and the in-between-heard-about-hybrid pierogies taste like dirt in wet dough. Or dirt and apple jelly if it happens to be the sweet kind you've ordered. Hey, it ain't like I didn't try them.

Skotties, Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:30 (twenty years ago) link

????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:34 (twenty years ago) link

pierogies are godlike skottie! you must have been eating the wrong kind!

geeta (geeta), Friday, 31 October 2003 00:39 (twenty years ago) link

The White Eagle of Polish Cookery truly did not smile on me during my trip to Poland!

http://www.polish-flag.com/Polish_Eagle.jpg

Skottie, Friday, 31 October 2003 06:46 (twenty years ago) link

na zdrowie the polish bar is just about where this arrow is pointing (hopes arrow comes out)

ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 31 October 2003 12:00 (twenty years ago) link

Arrow is in the wrong place. It should be just behind Holborn station, not on Red Lion Square.

Pete (Pete), Friday, 31 October 2003 14:14 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
NUM NUM

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Sunday, 16 November 2003 07:53 (twenty years ago) link

Welcome home! Still married?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 16 November 2003 11:25 (twenty years ago) link

sixteen years pass...

Aside from "craft" beers, is the beer good in Poland? thinking of spending some time there this summer, trying to get a grip on what delights await me.

pet friendly (Euler), Saturday, 22 February 2020 15:44 (four years ago) link

I only know the brands commonly seen in Brooklyn, chiefly Żywiec and Okocim, both pretty good but not amazing. More or less typical European lagers. Żyviec makes a porter also that I've not had.

Josefa, Saturday, 22 February 2020 16:02 (four years ago) link

i lived there *years* ago (and in a brewing town) and it wasn’t anything special. dark sweet, toffeeish beers, and standards like Żywiec and 10.5. nothing like the best czech pilsners or the belgian beers.

Fizzles, Saturday, 22 February 2020 16:05 (four years ago) link

Okocim might be the best of the ever-present lagers. There is not much to pick between it and Lech, tbh. I tend to avoid Zywiec and Tyskie. They’re all good by US standards, average by German standards and sub-par by Czech ones.

There are some pretty good smaller brands you’ll find occasionally - Ciechan beers are usually worth trying.

You should be drinking wódka instead, though.

ShariVari, Saturday, 22 February 2020 16:14 (four years ago) link

yes, i meant to say! the wódka is where it's at. a vodka for every occasion and if you haven't had too much a soothing żubrówka jabłkowem will settle the nerves.

Fizzles, Saturday, 22 February 2020 16:27 (four years ago) link

good by US standards

Good Polish beers by US standards? Sure. Good beers, period, though? No way.

romanesque architect (pomenitul), Saturday, 22 February 2020 16:30 (four years ago) link

Good by mainline German standards?

I have problems with vodka because of collolege but I should try to overcome it. No mixing it with orange crush at any rate.

Might try to fit in a few days in Lviv too but there are other threads for that.

pet friendly (Euler), Saturday, 22 February 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link

My boyfriend drinks Warka lager exclusively. /shrug emoji

Polish food has brought me a newfound love for dill and kielbasa. Other than that, I can leave it. Not that big on stewed things just generally.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Saturday, 22 February 2020 18:00 (four years ago) link

żubrówka jabłkowem

stupid q: is this apple-flavoured bisongrass vodka, or bisongrass vodka with an apple juice mixer, or an apple-flavoured vodka made by the same company as Żubrówka bisongrass vodka but without the grass?

<3 the regular Żubrówka that you can buy over here; I think the Polish shop in town has some other varieties which I have not yet investigated

a passing spacecadet, Saturday, 22 February 2020 18:37 (four years ago) link

bisongrass and apple juice mixer.

Fizzles, Saturday, 22 February 2020 18:44 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

a 24 pack of Lomza export beer (5.7% abv) has just arrived. I'm ready!

calzino, Monday, 6 April 2020 09:09 (four years ago) link

Seek: Kasztelan

Sam Weller, Monday, 6 April 2020 09:24 (four years ago) link

ohh nice and strong as well!

calzino, Monday, 6 April 2020 10:15 (four years ago) link


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