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ok the bad art posted on the bad art thread is cannonical, lets try to post art that has a positive critical reception, but you hate. Like what MJ did with Basquiat.

http://www.artmag.com/museums/a_usa/ausrdvf/mars/richter.jpg

― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 12 December 2003 07:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Basquiat is famous for being black and dead.

― ModJ (ModJ), Friday, 12 December 2003 07:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Currently looking for Nan Golden stills and finding none...

― ModJ (ModJ), Friday, 12 December 2003 07:29 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/entertainment/0111/album.gallery/sgt.pepper.jpg

― ModJ (ModJ), Friday, 12 December 2003 07:32 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.toiletclub.it/images/bonnard.jpg

― ModJ (ModJ), Friday, 12 December 2003 07:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Nan Goldin

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 12 December 2003 07:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Of course! Brilliant!

http://www.uic.edu/depts/ahaa/classes/ah111/goldin1.jpg

― ModJ (ModJ), Friday, 12 December 2003 07:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Thinking back over the course of what I know about photo history, she's probably the only one [photographer] I dislike...

― ModJ (ModJ), Friday, 12 December 2003 07:35 (twenty-two years ago)

(I don't agree with putting her in here - but Goldin is like the Clash - she loses points for her followers, ala Ryan McGinley)

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 12 December 2003 07:37 (twenty-two years ago)

― Sarah Pedal (call mr. lee), Friday, 12 December 2003 07:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Perhaps yr right, though I'd rather go with Cindy Sherman if I had to pick an artist from the same period...

― ModJ (ModJ), Friday, 12 December 2003 07:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I had a class with ten women who were all jocking Cindy Sherman hardcore. Every photo, every critique, over and over and over.

I guess A-town doesn't have enough of a party/drug/art scene for them to rip off Goldin.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 12 December 2003 07:43 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.harley.com/abstract-art/images/(davinci)-mona-lisa-(small).jpg

Not so much bad as I don't understand why anyone cares.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 12 December 2003 07:46 (twenty-two years ago)

It's all about the background.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 12 December 2003 08:17 (twenty-two years ago)

ModJ's first pic is OTM--love the record, hate the cover

― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 12 December 2003 08:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Anything by Dante Gabriel Rossetti to thread

― pete s, Friday, 12 December 2003 09:30 (twenty-two years ago)

― Alex K (Alex K), Friday, 12 December 2003 10:39 (twenty-two years ago)

― Alex K (Alex K), Friday, 12 December 2003 10:41 (twenty-two years ago)

― Alex K (Alex K), Friday, 12 December 2003 10:52 (twenty-two years ago)

most of this

― jed (jed_e_3), Friday, 12 December 2003 10:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Why oh why is there a Richter kicking off this thread?

― Alex K (Alex K), Friday, 12 December 2003 11:51 (twenty-two years ago)

― Alex K (Alex K), Friday, 12 December 2003 11:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Oooooh. Controversial.

― Alex K (Alex K), Friday, 12 December 2003 11:57 (twenty-two years ago)

― Alex K (Alex K), Friday, 12 December 2003 12:03 (twenty-two years ago)

dear Edwin:

― Alex K (Alex K), Friday, 12 December 2003 12:13 (twenty-two years ago)

is that puffy fat man by philip Guston? yeah thats bad, i wondered about the richter and also why it was accompanied by a comment about Basquiat.

― jed (jed_e_3), Friday, 12 December 2003 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Yup - the stay-puffed guy is Guston, who for some oblique reason, always gets showered with props.

Man, dropping Gerhard to top a list like this doesn't make no sense to me. The guy is inestimably classic. Basquiat isn't exactly shit either, and was never a 'bad' painter in any sense of the word that I can interpret but hey; ultimatley it's all subjective conjecture so who knows?

― Alex K (Alex K), Friday, 12 December 2003 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

richter is too obvious, too samey, too dependent on tricks.
its a spin off of the bad art thread.

― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 12 December 2003 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Well Richter does 2 things over and over - thats 2 more ideas than most artists have, i think he's one of the Greatest painters of the era. And, yeah, basquiat is no slacker.

― jed (jed_e_3), Friday, 12 December 2003 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)

The Guston retrospective currently at the Met is great. I don't care for his abstractions, but the later cartoonish stuff is a blast. Much more fun to look at than Richter, IMO.

However, the Clyfford Styll (or however you spell his name) room at the Met is like the deadest room in the entire frickin' museum.

― o. nate (onate), Friday, 12 December 2003 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.artgarfunkel.com/images.cds/Garfunkel.jpg

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 12 December 2003 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Clyfford Still.

I think Richter is more diverse than he is being credit for here and I would be interested to hear how you would qualify the claim that he is "too obvious". I think his best paintings are at once beautiful, rich, resonant and subtle. He's a craftsman and something of an enigma, and I think both qualities are visible in his work, which for me engages while remaining curiously impenetrable. The aesthetic that he leaves to the viewer to consider I find highly seductive and I love his obsession with the quality of paint.

― Alex K (Alex K), Friday, 12 December 2003 15:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm less interested in the abstracts, but i think he is just having fun and likes the colours. With the baader meinhof series he made some of the greatest art of the era i think. The skull and candle paintings are incredible too (sorry i'm not much of a critic!).

and who couldnt love this?

http://www.listasafn.is/safnid/syningar/syningar_2001/gerhard_richter/myndir/betty_380.jpg

― jed (jed_e_3), Friday, 12 December 2003 16:13 (twenty-two years ago)

in fact - i want that cardigan, and i'm a guy!

― jed (jed_e_3), Friday, 12 December 2003 16:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Richter is classic, although that first thing Anth posted, not so much...

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 12 December 2003 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Agreed - the gaudy Richter at the top is not a good example.

― Alex K (Alex K), Friday, 12 December 2003 16:40 (twenty-two years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1765000/images/_1766846_hirst_300.jpg

An obvious target perhaps, but I didn't start actvely disliking his stuff until I actually saw it. When it was all just theory, I thought it was great -- but presented with the objects, I'm stuck thinking that there really is no there there.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 12 December 2003 17:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah. Damien darling. You gotta love him though. I mean really, the grand gestures, the showmanship, the panache. The theory is the weak link man, but the objects themselves demand attention. They beg for awe and shock, they plead you to react.

His show at the cube was hilarious, I mean it was so vacuous, but he'd gone through the stratosphere to create the illusion of the fundamental. Whoooo - Sex, death, God, hahaha, I could just imagine him and Jay walking the floor the night before slapping each other on the back at the thought of the reception the show would generate. I think people are beginning to see with Damien though, that his ideas are becoming tired and his approach, perhaps lazy is the word. He is at his best, I think, when he is pushing as hard as he can, and not attempting to tie up his rampant impulses with grand narratives. Like I said, his work I think, can be impressive, but all the chatter wrapped around almost seems... ah, peripheral to its impact.

― a shotgun, Friday, 12 December 2003 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)

ModJ's first pic is OTM--love the record, hate the cover

Actually I meant the album inside was shit. The cover is cute enough...

― ModJ (ModJ), Friday, 12 December 2003 17:28 (twenty-two years ago)

in fact - i want that cardigan, and i'm a guy

Yeah, not bad for a glorified Gap ad.

― o. nate (onate), Friday, 12 December 2003 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Interesting. What the shotgun says is exactly backwards. I thought that using dead lambs to talk about death would be cool, and then I saw the stuff, and saw a dead lamb encased in lucite. An object demanding nothing in its creation or its interpretation. BO-RING.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 12 December 2003 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)

let's make this a richter love thread

― dan (dan), Friday, 12 December 2003 18:15 (twenty-two years ago)

richter love

http://www.sfmoma.org/images/art/lg/lg_GRichte_Kerze.jpg

― jed (jed_e_3), Friday, 12 December 2003 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Here's where I admit to getting my degree in Art History AND having a serious "eh" reaction to most Impressionists, especially Monet, whom I openly dislike (except for his Haystacks and Rouen Cathedral paintings).

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Friday, 12 December 2003 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.lordwarmingtonstudio.com/painting%20images/big%20photos/Dragon_Slayers.jpg

― Aja (aja), Friday, 12 December 2003 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm going to say lots of Picasso and Dali paintings fit in this catagory for me.

http://www.hermitagemuseum.org/tmplobs/WIG4BVQBA4K0QCNV6.jpg

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/IMC/tfa452.jpg

― A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 12 December 2003 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Who painted that, Aja? Do you know anyone who says it's good? Why did you post it on this thread?

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 12 December 2003 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.lennon-sculpture-studio.com/images/lennon_portfolio_damned-soul.jpg

― Aja (aja), Friday, 12 December 2003 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)

those are def. not cannonical, but are still awesome, but still not really for this thread. They need to be on the Non-cannonical Good ARt thread.

― A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 12 December 2003 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.lordwarmingtonstudio.com/ .../dragon_slayers.htm

― Aja (aja), Friday, 12 December 2003 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Aja, this is not the thread for those. There IS a thread for those, and you're dominating it perfectly well.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 12 December 2003 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)

http://members.aol.com/discanner/goodart3.gif

― Aja (aja), Friday, 12 December 2003 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

fwiw: i am curious as to how may of these paintings people have seen IRL

― kephm, Friday, 12 December 2003 19:30 (twenty-two years ago)

9 or so, I think...

― ModJ (ModJ), Friday, 12 December 2003 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)

who did that sculpture of Garrison Keillor?

― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 12 December 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree. Bonnard's paintings, for instance, are much better in person.

― David Beckh0u5e (Dave Beckh0u5e), Friday, 12 December 2003 22:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Mo' Richter Love
http://home.swipnet.se/~w-26153/art/richter/images/ferrari.jpg

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 12 December 2003 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)

In answer to this thread - anything by William Blake. He was just taking the piss, wasn't he? The ultimate geex0r.

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 12 December 2003 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I think I saw the Sheep and the painting behind it, and I'm pretty sure I've seen the Stills one and the Pollack one too

― A Nairn (moretap), Saturday, 13 December 2003 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Strange to see that spanner in the ST riping up Richter in the same week ile attempts to pan him. Anyway, Januprat's argument was about as convincing as Anthony's up thread (ie. not convincing) and seemed oblivious to most of just why I think Richter is noteworthy.

― Alex K (Alex K), Monday, 15 December 2003 10:14 (twenty-two years ago)

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