Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

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People misusing “nonplussed” or any word and then being like “well language evolves you know”

flappy bird, Sunday, 31 December 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link

flappy bird, that begs the question about what we're really disinterested in.

sympathy for the tasmanian devil (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 31 December 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link

is misuse of nonplussed just due to confusion btwn it and nonchalant? or is it mis-derived somehow from "not plus."

Mordy, Sunday, 31 December 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link

it's because it kind of sounds like what people think it means

Number None, Sunday, 31 December 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link

only if plussed meant enthusiastic

Mordy, Sunday, 31 December 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link

it doesn't have to

Number None, Sunday, 31 December 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link

or i guess not enthusiastic - just having any kind of reaction? it's a kinda weird association tbh. which makes me think it's maybe just confusion bc of nonchalant which means what ppl seem to think nonplussed means.

Mordy, Sunday, 31 December 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link

I really don't think it's confusion with nonchalant

I've actually thought about this a lot

Number None, Sunday, 31 December 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link

This was mentioned above, my pet theory is that it rhymes with "not fussed"

Bitcoin Baja (wins), Sunday, 31 December 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link

See also ppl thinking "craven" means shameless - this is everywhere these days and I'm pretty sure it's just cause it sounds a bit like "brazen"

Bitcoin Baja (wins), Sunday, 31 December 2017 18:12 (six years ago) link

Maybe it's something to do with all of the 'un-' words we have denoting passive states.

unconcerned
unperturbed
undisturbed
unimpressed
unemotional
unruffled
unmoved

If we don't have another meaning for 'nonplussed', we're inclined to hear it as falling in this category.

jmm, Sunday, 31 December 2017 18:13 (six years ago) link

Like "craven", tv chefs/critics etc using 'unctuous' to mean, idk, attractively oozy rather than just greasy/oily

Nonplussed dates back to Google Plus and means something you couldn't even be bothered to 'plus one' ("like")

kinder, Sunday, 31 December 2017 19:15 (six years ago) link

also patently/blatantly although I guess that's not so bad as the intended meaning is usually the same

kinder, Sunday, 31 December 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link

Never heard nonplussed used in that way before - lol Americans p'raps?

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Sunday, 31 December 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link

“happy new years”, unless it’s become 2018 and 2019 and i missed a key development

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:00 (six years ago) link

flappy bird, that begs the question about what we're really disinterested in.


ha I actually (unwisely) got into it in the comments on a piece of mine with some crusty grammar pedant a few months ago that I was misusing “disinterested” when i should’ve been been using “uninterested.”

flappy bird, Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link

And yea apologies I just realized I’m definitely the one that brought up “nonplussed” itt p recently

flappy bird, Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:10 (six years ago) link

Seems to me that “happy new years” incorporates the elision so well-beloved by North Americans with the confusion and imprecision so well-beloved by humans everywhere, where the "day" in "happy New Year's Day" gets chopped off and the stump, "happy New Year's" is conflated with the more general greeting, "happy New Year" often used on days that are near to, but not, January 1st.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link

"unctuous" is unusual in that it's the reanimation of a medieval sense otherwise lost to cynicism: it was once a positive word, in culinary and in religious terms. in the ritual or religious sense, "unction" still maintains some of sense of the approval -- the anointment of the monarch or of the dying -- tho (this is where the cynicism comes in) the adjective seems to have become more associated with fake piety a loooong time ago

basically the problem for chefs is that they very much need a word for the approving quality, but all the ones to hand have gone negative on them: "it's really oily! but in a good way!"

mark s, Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:15 (six years ago) link

unless it’s become 2018 and 2019 and i missed a key development

Would that mean twice as many birthday presents?

jmm, Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:17 (six years ago) link

I think the downfall of unctuous as a positive word was when it was extended to describe a slick, flattering "oily" personality.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:18 (six years ago) link

i like it as a culinary term, it has good mouthfeel

a Rambo in curved air (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link

Plussed, that great term we all use

Also language evolves

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link

omg...

flappy bird, Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:26 (six years ago) link

Where it all went wrong for nonplus was in the verbing. “Reduced to a nonplus” much less likely to be, uh, confused

El Tomboto, Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link

“happy new years”, unless it’s become 2018 and 2019 and i missed a key development

Now that is lol Americans.

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Sunday, 31 December 2017 21:18 (six years ago) link

figured it was an apostrophe as in "Happy New Year's..." as in "Happy New Year's Eve"

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 31 December 2017 22:28 (six years ago) link

still shit

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 31 December 2017 22:30 (six years ago) link

nobody says “merry christ”

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 31 December 2017 22:30 (six years ago) link

it's already an elision of Christ's Mass

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 31 December 2017 22:46 (six years ago) link

“merry mass” would make more sense then

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 31 December 2017 23:14 (six years ago) link

"data detox"

kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 18:51 (six years ago) link

oof haven't heard that one yet, my sympathies

flappy bird, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 19:07 (six years ago) link

all the data ones are bad

marcos, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 19:09 (six years ago) link

"data wrangler"

marcos, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 19:09 (six years ago) link

ffs

kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 19:11 (six years ago) link

big data
big ag
big pharma
big oil
big tobacco

marcos, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 19:13 (six years ago) link

big hair

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 19:18 (six years ago) link

"normies"

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 19:32 (six years ago) link

failson

flappy bird, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 19:36 (six years ago) link

3 days behind

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 19:38 (six years ago) link

oooo word, well it bears repeating

flappy bird, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 19:45 (six years ago) link

seems antithetical

Evan, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 20:06 (six years ago) link

lol ok otm

flappy bird, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 20:07 (six years ago) link

idk

Seems kinda like there could be a hiatus on dudes/bros for a while when used as short

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Sunday, 7 January 2018 00:05 (six years ago) link

hand for dislike of men

idk tho

phantom submit there dudes btw

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Sunday, 7 January 2018 00:06 (six years ago) link

a balmy _____ degrees

marcos, Monday, 8 January 2018 21:50 (six years ago) link

Glamping.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 8 January 2018 21:57 (six years ago) link

Nicknames for Donald Trump

flappy bird, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 23:42 (six years ago) link

45 scoops of cheetos

how's life, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 23:56 (six years ago) link


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