Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

it's because if you are designing logos for a company you are doing something different than when you go home and paint or play with samplers or whatever on your own free time.

that is a graphic designer. i understand the intent of the phrase, it still makes my skin crawl because it is unnecessary, and even worse when it's used to refer to actual artists.

Personally I don't mind if writers, copyeditors, graphic designers, and web designers get called "creatives" or "creative professionals." It's a useful distinction from the "business side" like ad salespeople or whatever. Calling them "artists" is usually overkill.

In my youth I was a "production artist" - basically newspaper / newsletter / magazine layout - for something like $8 an hour. While there was certainly creative work involved, calling it art would have been rather grand.

If what you object to is the nouning of an adjective, you can use "creative professionals," but I think that won't stay wieldy for long.

Verbing and nouning and such is a venerable tradition in English, as even a cursory glance at a dictionary will tell you.

https://thelawdictionary.org/good-faith/
https://thelawdictionary.org/bad-faith/

you know ive had my share

I know what it means to be a loan...

xpost yeah lol i dislike the words "artist" and find it bougie and self important. art isnt something common people should be alienated from, which tends to be the case.

Yes, let's use 'creatives' instead.

yeah, and maths and science and sports and woodwork

xp

it's important not to alienate people from things that are good for them, i think we should call doctors "ouch mechanics"

teachers could be "school cops"

well, that'd make it easier to justify arming them for sure

that's what i was thinking

I am never saying 'fake news' ever again, even in jest.

tbh i don't mind being called an artist for rewriting your fuck-awful prose, in fact i demand it

the notion of common, normal or regular people is not to be accepted

7 billion legernds

mrs yanis varoufakis, ogmor is calling u out itt

any reference to or spin on 'taking my talents to miami'

it's important not to alienate people from things that are good for them

your zings missed my point. it's not about alienating people from consuming art but creating it. similar to the alienation of workers from the fruits of their labor. "you can't make art you are a construction worker, leave it to the gifted artists". art for all. im a big fan of Breton.

"fake news" is still useful for trolling trolls when you get roped into a dumb argument on someone's facebook wall

"fake news" is still useful for trolling trolls when you get roped into a dumb argument on someone's facebook wall

― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:51 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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"Hack" for stuff that is not tech-related. Russia "hacked" the election, used by dumb boomers who don't know the difference between literally altering votes and posting some targeted ads on facebook.

definitely. "life hack" is a bad one

life hack is bad, intentionally posting in a way that subverts algorithmic boosting of popular content is a sort of hack

that's not what they did either

but in any case, that's at most hacking a social media algorithm, it's not hacking an election

if someone makes a viral quiz that is not in fact a quiz in substance, and you get tons of people quote-unquote figuring out their personality type when you are actually just grabbing a list of friends, that is a hack. not a technically proficient hack, but social engineering is hacking by any grey hat definition and that is social engineering

true, that has nothing directly related to election hacking

that involves irony poisoning

we used to live in a golden age when "hacking" meant driving a taxi on nights and weekends to make a bit of extra cash so you could afford a few niceties like an electric shoeshine machine or a tin of the top-shelf brilliantine

that's also not an accurate description of what cambridge analytica did fwiw, although I'm being a little pedantic. All third party apps at the time grabbed your friends' info, it was part of facebook's stated policy that they could do so. What cambridge did was just pretend to be research for academic purposes when it was actually for its own political-related purposes. But also, cambridge =/= russia.

irony poisoning is also a dumb phrase

Hey, let's be sure that we're really precise in our language in opposing a bunch of inveterate pathological liars

I wasn’t a huge fan of “irony poisoning” myself but people who are familiar with online trolls tend to catch on to it more quickly on discussion than just saying “well, your young friend voted for Trump due to deep cynicism”

i had never heard irony poisoning before reading these posts and now i get it
i think it's a useful phrase to describe something that would take more words otherwise

comes from consuming too many irony supplements

I guess it sounds like a real thing but I'm also very suspicious of anyone who wholesale criticizes irony. That was big after 9/11.

that's fine but saying that someone has been poisoned by something doesn't dismiss the thing wholesale -- different things can be poisonous/toxic to different people

alcohol poisoning is a logical comparison?
irony can be intoxicating to people and i think it's possible to OD on it

> "Hack" for stuff that is not tech-related.

it wasn't originally. https://www.dourish.com/goodies/jargon.html

HACK n.
1. Originally a quick job that produces what is needed, but not well.
2. The result of that job.
3. NEAT HACK: A clever technique. Also, a brilliant practical joke, where neatness is correlated with cleverness, harmlessness, and surprise value. Example: the Caltech Rose Bowl card display switch circa 1961.
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yeah this morning in discussing a task for a project i was like "I can hack that" but meaning like, I can manage, I can make it through, make it work.... not like "I can disrupt the system and infiltrate with a devilishly clever shortcut" or whatever.

it's a term of art in journalism too

I kind of blame late gen x/early millennials for the explosion of ironic disconnect and trolling -- shades of that dumb gag on The Simpsons in the mid 90s "Dude, are you being ironic?" "I don't even know anymore"

when your basic view of entertainment is based on pranking people who have actual opinions or convictions and subverting them, and that becomes your go-to mode of social interaction, then you really lose track of how to interact with people authentically

that's how I break down "irony poisoning" to an extent.

it seems like an effort to remain detached, untouched, unaffected
only we have never been able to afford being that detached so the detachment is poisonous/bad

rather, only the most privileged among us can afford not to care

a friend was trying to figure out how to explain to her coworker, a young man in grad school, that he was in fact partially responsible for our current political situation because "voting for Trump for the lols" meant he did, in fact, vote for Trump

What a tool

what a fool!

the voting booth doesn't care about your feelings

"on team <whatever>" as a term of support

like when the hell did everything become something you have to root for

Yeah I'm not such a fan of that