Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

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ach sure nobody should do anything but agree sure

lee guacamole (darraghmac), Sunday, 9 September 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link

they should probably have to list back a precis of the discussion to ensure they were on message afterwards tbh

lee guacamole (darraghmac), Sunday, 9 September 2018 20:52 (five years ago) link

i realize i spend a lot of time beating up on "traditional media", but dogged conformance to journalistic style, after it has become abundantly clear that journalistic substance is a dead letter, really does chap my hide. recently i saw the headline "Employee, man brawl inside Chick-Fil-A restaurant in DC". If that's how your style guide tells you to write, you should strongly consider selectively ignoring your style guide.

milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Sunday, 9 September 2018 21:07 (five years ago) link

Headlines are notoriously places where brevity is elevated above grammar and sense.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 9 September 2018 21:27 (five years ago) link

yeah wtf style guides rule

flappy bird, Sunday, 9 September 2018 22:01 (five years ago) link

Re: ‘let’s agree to disagree’: “it is our duty to be inflexible on matters of principle: we owe our friends friendship, we do not owe them weakness.” (Ian Hamilton Finlay)

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Monday, 10 September 2018 13:54 (five years ago) link

what is the outcome of that tho

as in i could see it being an argument for or against agreeing to disagree!

lee guacamole (darraghmac), Monday, 10 September 2018 13:58 (five years ago) link

when scummy politicians say another one speaks "truth to power" is something I keep hearing recently, even before Andrew Bridgen used it about Boris earlier, I heard it used on another mendacious creep recently.

calzino, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:20 (five years ago) link

oftentimes

andrew m., Monday, 10 September 2018 15:39 (five years ago) link

^ An American Thing

Scottish Country Tweerking (Tom D.), Monday, 10 September 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link

id use bytimes a good bit tbh

NAGL usa (darraghmac), Monday, 10 September 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link

maybe I just notice it more for obvious reasons but I've been seeing "lodestar" a lot in non-political articles

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 14:48 (five years ago) link

I heard someone advocate recently for editing every possible cliche out of one’s writing, and I think it’s a good rule. I think that’s part of what this thread is getting at. We all read more writing from more people every day than at any previous point in history and most of it’s boring.

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:29 (five years ago) link

Conversely, you also run into writing that strains painfully to avoid cliche and to express simple ideas in unusual gimmicky ways and it can be a mess.

mick signals, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:52 (five years ago) link

I used to use clichés like they were going out of style. Now I avoid them like the plague.

Never mind the bollards (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 16:17 (five years ago) link

lol

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link

Choreography has always been a lodestar for Ms. Letissier

oh god it's happening to me too

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link

Conversely, you also run into writing that strains painfully to avoid cliche and to express simple ideas in unusual gimmicky ways and it can be a mess.

― mick signals, Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:52 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is annoying but they are lodestar in comparison

flappy bird, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link

anus champ

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 18:12 (five years ago) link

LoadStar, the floppy-disk-based magazine for Commodore 64 users, has always been a ... a touchstone for me.

mick signals, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link

xp that was the exact article that led me to mention it actually

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link

lol i figured it might've been

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link

I'm still waiting to see which Democratic candidate will turn out to be our Lode Runner for Atari 800, Commodore 64, and Apple II systems with at least 64k RAM

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:30 (five years ago) link

Avoid clichés by isolating, quarantining, and thoroughly fumigating them.

jmm, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:31 (five years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dm6vZTJXcAA_W-H.jpg:small

mookieproof, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 19:39 (five years ago) link

ew

andrew m., Wednesday, 12 September 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link

I really want to start responding to 'morning' with a hearty 'well-observed'.

I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 September 2018 12:26 (five years ago) link

"Hello!"
"Oh, how very original."

got the scuba tube blowin' like a snork (Doctor Casino), Friday, 14 September 2018 12:43 (five years ago) link

Posts that start 'This is huge' followed by some revelation the author is certain will DEFINITELY lead to Trump's impeachment/Brexit being cancelled/whatever

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Friday, 14 September 2018 12:46 (five years ago) link

'I'm so sorry for your loss.'
'I'm so sorry for your addiction to clichés. My deepest sympathies!'

I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 September 2018 12:51 (five years ago) link

(I swear I'm not That Guy. I was properly socialized. Relatively properly, anyway.)

I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 September 2018 12:54 (five years ago) link

i mean

that is the essential soul of what is good and necessary about cliché, that phrase

it insulates from all of the agonies of misunderstanding of intent or delivery that can arise in just about any phrased or unphrased human interaction and delivers the absolutest clarity and intent, in the most widely recognised formula available, to people least able at that time to process much of anything except perhaps a presence and the delivery of such a phrase.

you would have to have many things wrong with you to not understand implicitly the utility of such a phrase for the circumstances imo

NAGL usa (darraghmac), Friday, 14 September 2018 13:48 (five years ago) link

Yeah, ordinarily I appreciate people who avoid formulaic speech, and who can come up with something a trifle more daring at a party than "what do you do?".

But at my mom's funeral two years ago, I found I was not craving variety and creativity in what people said; if someone said something formulaic I found I was relieved and pleased.

know-it-some (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 14 September 2018 13:57 (five years ago) link

I fear that my horribly-formed 'joke' may have provoked the very agony of which deems speaks.

I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 September 2018 14:00 (five years ago) link

I was bantering with Doc C, do u see

I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 September 2018 14:01 (five years ago) link

i got it, OL!

but glad it inadvertently prompted dmac and YMP, who articulated something important and an experience i've shared.

got the scuba tube blowin' like a snork (Doctor Casino), Friday, 14 September 2018 14:02 (five years ago) link

if you ever find yourself thinking "how can i condole with somebody in an original and non-cliched way?" then you should strongly consider fucking yourself for eternity

every day there's a whining choad (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 September 2018 14:04 (five years ago) link

And really, my initial post wasn't exactly fueled by the shit being annoyed out of me. It was more the experience of hearing a word over and over until it sounds like random phonemes disconnected from context and meaning. I'd heard and said 'morning' like twelve times within a five-minute stretch and thought 'huh, humans r weird'.

I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 September 2018 14:05 (five years ago) link

"convo" for conversation

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 14 September 2018 14:18 (five years ago) link

Good mourning!

mick signals, Friday, 14 September 2018 14:30 (five years ago) link

oh i am the sincere person missing puns

what a turnup

NAGL usa (darraghmac), Friday, 14 September 2018 14:48 (five years ago) link

Was gonna say, thought ol' treesh had gotten your login info for a sec.

I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 September 2018 14:49 (five years ago) link

I appreciated your impassioned riposte, nonetheless.

I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 September 2018 14:50 (five years ago) link

Unless you're literally talking about extraction into a liquid, don't say "infuse."

So this is bad:

In a flat world, infused with the complexities of contracting over information, off-the-shelf contracts and standardized legal reasoning and approaches don’t cut it. What’s needed are creative ways to manage strategic relationships. https://t.co/LJ3leh1szb

— Gillian Hadfield (@ghadfield) June 19, 2018

This is fine though:

This shampoo and conditioner is literally infused with love: https://t.co/sUnAt19g76 pic.twitter.com/473mYSVx8X

— InStyle (@InStyle) June 18, 2016

mick signals, Friday, 14 September 2018 15:02 (five years ago) link

The bigger problem with tweet #1 imo is that it is word barf.

I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 September 2018 15:09 (five years ago) link

In a flat world, barf is critical to proactively steer our dynamic word logistic advantages.

mick signals, Friday, 14 September 2018 15:16 (five years ago) link

in a flat world, apparently fields need to be leveled, despite being flat

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 14 September 2018 15:17 (five years ago) link

It requires a means of responding to the very unevenness—the nonflatness—that has persisted, even been exacerbated, in the wake of the ways in which the global platform has rearranged work and resources.

mick signals, Friday, 14 September 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link

Regardless of the world's shape or what it's been infused with, I feel like it would be difficult to cut anything using only contracts or reasoning. That's not how cutting things works.

I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 September 2018 15:31 (five years ago) link

For the 21st century, we need virtual contracts literally infused with titanium that can selectively cut the DNA of the blockchain.

mick signals, Friday, 14 September 2018 15:37 (five years ago) link


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