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is there a kind of tray for carrying books and if so does it have a name?

(like a kind of shelf but tipped onto its back corner so that the books are carried in the V of it?)

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 27 December 2003 21:55 (twenty years ago) link

where can i buy one?

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 27 December 2003 21:55 (twenty years ago) link

we haven't even established that it exists yet! you're getting ahead of yourself!

amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 27 December 2003 21:58 (twenty years ago) link

Some call it a "library trolley."

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:03 (twenty years ago) link

That hasn't been updated since March 2000, though. Who knows what advances could have been made since then?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:04 (twenty years ago) link

no the thing i mean is just one shelf and you carry it on poles at the end

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:06 (twenty years ago) link

maybe i dreamed it

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:06 (twenty years ago) link

green baize wz involved

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:06 (twenty years ago) link

That's a hod, isn't it?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:08 (twenty years ago) link

ESP is the ONLY technological advance in book-moving that could possibly improve upon the delightful functionality of the library trolley.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:08 (twenty years ago) link

What about LASERS, though? They can do anything!

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:09 (twenty years ago) link

So can ESP. Look at Uri Gellar!

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:10 (twenty years ago) link

where can i buy a two-handled book-hod?

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:10 (twenty years ago) link

Look at Uri Gellar!

Hopkins to thread...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:16 (twenty years ago) link

Why do you need two handles? How are you going to be carrying it?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:19 (twenty years ago) link

with two hands!

cozen. (Cozen), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:21 (twenty years ago) link

Ah, right - so the handles will be coming out from the side? Pointing forwards or sideways? can you draw a picture of this?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:25 (twenty years ago) link

Also - proper handles or a lip, like dinner trays?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:25 (twenty years ago) link

Carried in front of you?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:27 (twenty years ago) link

end view = -\___/-

side view = V

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:28 (twenty years ago) link

Hmm.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:28 (twenty years ago) link

That's four handles, isn't it?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:28 (twenty years ago) link

haha sorry the views shd be the other way around

also i can't draw the top edge of the first diagram

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:29 (twenty years ago) link

Right, you're having the spines of the books roughly parallel or roughly perpendicular to your chest?

I think I sort of know what you're on about.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:31 (twenty years ago) link

Though I've no idea where to get one. Just get a standard brickie's hod, sling em over your shoulder. Construction chic, sort of.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:32 (twenty years ago) link

oh i saw one of these things at the bibliotheque de la ville de paris the other week! i have no idea what they're called in any language!

amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:37 (twenty years ago) link

Right, so we've established they exist, nearest sighting so far being Paris. mark s is in Hackney.

The Quest Begins.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:39 (twenty years ago) link

First you must venture unto the frozen wasteland, therein to slay a mighty worm.

Matt (Matt), Saturday, 27 December 2003 23:02 (twenty years ago) link

they're called library trucks. i'll ask my supervisor who we buy them from when she gets back from vacation next week.

mike bott, Sunday, 28 December 2003 00:03 (twenty years ago) link

is there a kind of tray for carrying books and if so does it have a name?

this is a question for Library Assistants.

DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 28 December 2003 00:22 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.m-w.com/mw/art/hod.gif

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 28 December 2003 01:36 (twenty years ago) link

That's the Merriam-Webster illustration for "hod" by the way.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 28 December 2003 01:46 (twenty years ago) link

Well there's something called a cradle. I don't know if their are mobile cradles.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Sunday, 28 December 2003 02:36 (twenty years ago) link

This looks close.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Sunday, 28 December 2003 02:43 (twenty years ago) link

You don't need books. Everything is on the internet.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Sunday, 28 December 2003 03:15 (twenty years ago) link

when i worked in a bookstore we had these things we called "v-carts" which were somewhat like your end- and side-views except they were tipped over and had wheels. my google-fu is failing me, though, so i cannot link you to one.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Sunday, 28 December 2003 07:20 (twenty years ago) link

I'll have a look in the library supplies catalogue when I go back to work, can you wait 'til the 5th of Jan?

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 28 December 2003 11:11 (twenty years ago) link

Our book trolleys are composed of numerous [things wot mark s is describing] which fit onto a central wheeled device (three on each side), tilted slightly from |_ to V kind of.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Sunday, 28 December 2003 15:24 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
REVIVE!!

mark s (mark s), Monday, 12 January 2004 13:51 (twenty years ago) link

Do you think you're going to get a new flood of helpful responses?

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 12 January 2004 13:57 (twenty years ago) link

I trust jel to keep his promises!

mark s (mark s), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:00 (twenty years ago) link

so yes!!

mark s (mark s), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:00 (twenty years ago) link

Due to the terrifically dull nature of my job, I get to know lots about suppliers of all sorts of arcane crap. There's a company called Gresswell that who specialize in library supplies. They do something that looks like this:

http://www.gresswell.com/webprd_gress/product_block/D60/000001600.jpg

You could also try Librex, but they don't have an online catalogue you can look at.

NickB (NickB), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:12 (twenty years ago) link

NickB ur a god, that is exactly what I want!! Proof = look, it is ALREADY FULL OF MOOMINTROLL BOOKS!!

mark s (mark s), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:19 (twenty years ago) link

Your enthusiasm has made me want one too!

marianna, Monday, 12 January 2004 14:22 (twenty years ago) link

"Table-top book racks" all round then.

NickB (NickB), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:23 (twenty years ago) link

"Trentwood Book Trough" for wood-ophiles:

http://www.gresswell.com/webprd_gress/product_block/D55/000001550.jpg

NickB (NickB), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:27 (twenty years ago) link

blimey the book at the end THERE is JACK by A.M.Homes who i also love!! this is the best niche-marketing exercise in history!

mark s (mark s), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:30 (twenty years ago) link

NickB are you at this very minute burgling my flat by the magic of book hods, and merrily posting pix of yr swag as it leaves?

mark s (mark s), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:33 (twenty years ago) link

Got any Agaton Sax? If so, I soon will be...

NickB (NickB), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:35 (twenty years ago) link

I did a couple of quarters of night shifts like that when I started here (thankfully not as late as that). I admit I was glad to leave them behind.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link

My brain doesn't really get going until after dinner, so these are perfect for me. Unfortunately in 2009 I will be replaced by a machine.

caek, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:04 (fifteen years ago) link

security robot?

velko, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.jennycakesbakery.com/images/photos/robot%20cake.jpg

robot caek

nabisco, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Haha, I am in a Faraday Cage here. No wireless, no phone reception. I am using Internet Explorer to type this, which I don't think I've done since the 90s. Good times.

caek, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I am actually getting work done and thinking about shit for the first time since the 90s too.

caek, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

physics department library rip : (

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/Image028.jpg

✓ ✔ ☑ vote LJ! (caek), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link

I guess no one has touched those journals in ten years

✓ ✔ ☑ vote LJ! (caek), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Still sad though.

"John Kerry dissed me, I'm trippin!" (Nicole), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link

:-( that's the way our journals are going too I'm afraid.

Neil S, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I helped out with clearing a lot of journals over the past few weeks that we have access to via JSTOR. I admit I'm not really sentimental about seeing the print volumes go.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link

I have been doing physics since 1999 and I have needed a print journal once in that time.

✓ ✔ ☑ vote LJ! (caek), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link

I work at a place dedicated to storing those forgotten books, journals, memorabilia donated by long forgotten local-celebrities, etc. Go U of T and it's 4th or so biggest library on the continent.

Their time's limited, hard rocks, too (mehlt), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link

They're actually being skipped, and not sent to offsite storage? I hope somebody's checked the RSL has copies.

(But then I am an incorrigible hoarder)

device may be used to practice dribbling (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link

The RSL has enough copies of these things to control time

✓ ✔ ☑ vote LJ! (caek), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Kudos to Virginia Plain and team for being named Library Of The Year.

barney kestrel (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 15 June 2009 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks; I think we get a pizza party.

Virginia Plain, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 00:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Nothing wrong with that!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Just don't handle the books afterwards with greasy pizza fingers! Especially those Library Of America Cheevers.

barney kestrel (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, we don't get laid off; thanks Bloomberg.

Virginia Plain, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link

GOOD WORK, VP.
Serious relief from my other librarian friend yesterday at the budget news.

ian, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link

and still six-day service
(xp)

barney kestrel (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link

sister just got hired as the librarian at a private girl's school in california where steve jobs sends his daughter

(pronounced /ˈfɑrv/sklOf/tO/fewˈ/) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Does Ari Gold send his daughter there too?

barney kestrel (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 01:45 (fourteen years ago) link

i think the enrollment is primarily nonfictional

(pronounced /ˈfɑrv/sklOf/tO/fewˈ/) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 01:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Ah yes, that's a sound policy.

barney kestrel (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 02:03 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Kudos to Virginia Plain and company for the infrastructure upgrade and the new self-scan-and-sort book return system. Sorry about the book buying budget though.

Never Make Your Moog Too Soon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 31 January 2011 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

four years pass...

Did any of you guys download the free poster from Carel Press. Also, is there a more active librarian thread?

Starman Jones said it's 2 legit 2 quit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 January 2016 01:34 (eight years ago) link

three years pass...

bump, any other ilx librarians still about

devvvine, Saturday, 26 October 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link

Yup, though I'm between jobs at the moment. You know how this field is.

OneSecondBefore, Saturday, 26 October 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link

I am eternal.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 26 October 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link

connected 4 life. thankfully managed to fall into a fulltime library assistant position just as i finished library school a couple of months ago which was v lucky. been putting off looking for actual 'qualified' jobs atm.

devvvine, Saturday, 26 October 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link

five months pass...

I'm trying to do a quick research project for my resource-limited, non-profit community senior services agency. It would be a piece of cake if I had EBSCO access but I don't now that I am no longer a student. Anyone out there who could help?

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 27 March 2020 17:55 (four years ago) link

only have access to the film and tv lit database on ebsco, would that be of help?

devvvine, Friday, 27 March 2020 18:11 (four years ago) link

I need AgeLine. But thank you for responding!

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 27 March 2020 18:22 (four years ago) link

best of luck!

devvvine, Friday, 27 March 2020 20:21 (four years ago) link

I don't have AgeLine but I appear to have access to something called "Abstracts in Social Gerontology" though NB I never use these databases so I don't really have any idea what I'm looking at / doing - but if there's something specific I can search for in here let me know...

If you need AgeLine specifically, sorry, good luck!

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 27 March 2020 20:50 (four years ago) link

I think I scraped together enough, but I may hit you up on that offer later. Thank you, very kind!

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 27 March 2020 23:16 (four years ago) link

no problem, good luck with your research paper!

I'm going to bed now (sorry if this is bad timing) but will no doubt be around tomorrow morning uk time if there is something I can try to track down for you.

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 27 March 2020 23:28 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

So these last few months my focus has been shifting from in-person access work to online, obviously -- but also to help our archivists here in some big projects. I'm currently engaged in others as well -- just finished up some work today with a big new one that should get a lot of attention when it is ready -- but here's a nice piece just published on our site about two of the other ones that have been completed:

https://www.library.ucsf.edu/news/new-ways-of-working-together/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 July 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Well, these next couple of days will be interesting:

https://libraries.universityofcalifornia.edu/sils

And as a result of that, as of a few hours from now, Millennium will no longer be used by us. Which is a weird kinda farewell -- to quote myself from FB: Since my first formal day of work at the UCI Libraries on January 2, 1997, I have used, one way or another, this piece of software up to the present day through my UCSF Libraries work. It went through updates, iterations, changes, but Millennium just chugged along, and like the name implied it really comes from a place in the mid-to late 90s Windows universe in particular, something that did the job but was often slow, clunky and weird. What felt vaguely half-futuristic rapidly wasn't, and as other programming approaches took hold it REALLY showed its age. Later today use of Millennium will stop as the entire UC library system is about to switch over in a long-planned move to a unified top to bottom entity via the Primo/Alma web-based software from ExLibris, and I'm sure there will be growing pains and quirks and so forth. I am really interested to see how that works out, THAT feels like the future in a fascinating way. But this clunky, slow, sometimes painfully annoying software did the work all this time, and I have no more romance to offer than that, certainly no melancholy or sadness. It'll just be weird never to see the darn thing again.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 July 2021 16:18 (two years ago) link

We switched to Alma/Primo back in 2015. We were using Voyager before

treefell, Monday, 26 July 2021 10:00 (two years ago) link

Ex Libris have a seriously dominant stake in Academic libraries now. It will be interesting to see how things develop with their latest ownership group

treefell, Monday, 26 July 2021 10:01 (two years ago) link

I'm at a weird special library where we STILL use Voyager. But our IT/Systems team is seriously understaffed and under-budgeted so a migration is probably not in the cards for a while. That'll be a real headache.

Voyager definitely shows its age (particularly its OPAC) but it still does the job decently well for us.

OneSecondBefore, Monday, 26 July 2021 13:29 (two years ago) link

Different topic, but Anne Helen Petersen has some thoughts about the way the MLIS has evolved into basically a mandatory degree if you want a living wage in libraries: https://annehelen.substack.com/p/the-masters-trap-part-two-069

It’s not a question of being a lower-paid librarian or a higher-paid librarian; it’s a question of being a staff member who doesn’t make enough to live on or figuring out a way to fund your MLIS. And then, even if you do make it into a program, there are too many people with master’s degrees and too few jobs for them.

in the end i bought two book hods (not correct term) from gresswell as advised by NickB q17 yrs ago and I still use them a lot, they do the job they are designed for!

sometimws ilx is good!

mark s, Monday, 26 July 2021 13:42 (two years ago) link

ann helen petersen otm

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Monday, 26 July 2021 15:10 (two years ago) link

the honest truth is that all graduate school and possibly all undergrad is a shakedown scam. if anyone asks me about graduate school (and no one does), i will tell them not to go, or to drop out if they're currently enrolled.

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Monday, 26 July 2021 15:13 (two years ago) link

I can see her point there. I've been happily able to live without an MLIS in the field -- and arguably I feel better all around because of it -- but then again my pay increases over time are the reasons why, thanks to both hanging in there and whatever quality and skill I have that's been recognized (including a full reclass in 2008 -- just before the recession, thankfully). And I've been working in it for almost a quarter of a century. Current entry level? *shakes head*

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 July 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link


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