LONDONERS!!! - The Savonarolan Invasion Begins

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So this is it! My flight leaves from Dulles this evening and I shall be arriving in London tomorrow morning. Prepare the Nazguls.

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 29 December 2003 18:28 (twenty-two years ago)

see you at the pub crawl :)

stevem (blueski), Monday, 29 December 2003 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, finally access to an Internet collection.

Brief observations:
Marmite - much better than I expected
"quite good" - not a high compliment? wha?
TV - less prudish = awesome
cellphones - ripping my hair out over how endlessly complicated this is (not an observation on Britain per se, though - I've never had one at all before).
food - absolutely no complaints so far. I just don't understand the stereotype...yet.

Other things

Took several curious photographs of a poster in Northfields station of a dodo bird. Specifically of its beak, which, if you see it while the bird itself is blocked (as I first did coming down the tube), looks positively like a way-too-detailed drawing of a phallus.

Wore a pair of Wellingtons for the first time in my life today.

Please airlift me some US>UK power adapters. Seriously. Well, at least tell me where on god's green and rainy earth I can find one. Just one, I'm begging!

Taking four pieces of baggage on the tube alone = not fun at all.

With luck I'll have a bank account by Monday.

Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 2 January 2004 00:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, well, Internet coNNection, anyway.

Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 2 January 2004 00:10 (twenty-two years ago)

welcome Girolamo!

pete s, Friday, 2 January 2004 00:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I believe this thread should be regularly updated with observations of a new Londoner. We await your opinions on Sam Smiths ale with interest.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 2 January 2004 00:16 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm glad you were able to take in 'lovely' Northfields Girolamo, jel will also be thrilled.

i recommend the Heathrow Express to Paddington as opposed to the tube tho. actually i have never used it, but it looks fabulous.

stevem (blueski), Friday, 2 January 2004 00:24 (twenty-two years ago)

For what it's worth, I'd be happy to keep posting here for the next few weeks or months with new thoughts.

Sam Smiths...hmm...I guess I'll have to try that at an upcoming FAP. I just tried Broadside (sp?) ale today at a nice 14th century(!) pub up in...Hertfordshire, Wheat-something I think.

Didn't really take in Northfields, steve, aside from the tube platform, but if it gives jel a kick, most happy then.

Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 2 January 2004 00:37 (twenty-two years ago)

oooh Wheathampstead - i'm not sure i ever went there but i may have passed thru it once - certainly close to (lived in nearby St Albans during college years)

stevem (blueski), Friday, 2 January 2004 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, that's the one. Great walks around there, as I found out today.

Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 2 January 2004 00:46 (twenty-two years ago)

You are making these places up. They do not exist - I know and I've lived in London 25 years as opposed to your paltry two days.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 2 January 2004 01:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Northfields is on this thing called the LONDON UNDERGROUND. Wheathampstead is a village in HERTFORDSHIRE which is not in London.
i've phoned Immigration about the pair of you.

stevem (blueski), Friday, 2 January 2004 01:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Racialist. I got in a fight with some Freemasons three nights ago over less. Which, essentially, means that I have about three weeks to live. But hey - they gave me free bouze!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 2 January 2004 01:14 (twenty-two years ago)

but can you avoid deportation before your untimely death? the race is on

stevem (blueski), Friday, 2 January 2004 01:30 (twenty-two years ago)

My photo is in the Daily Mail. Apparently, I raped a policeman. And ate a swam, raw, without plucking it. It was in reality a good old EastEnd loves-his-mum-once-shagged-Barbara-Windsor gangster, but that's just not the same.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 2 January 2004 01:32 (twenty-two years ago)

the carrier bag full of ricin was the real giveaway

stevem (blueski), Friday, 2 January 2004 01:35 (twenty-two years ago)

girolamo-- your best bet to get travel adaptors is probably at king's cross or other major stations. they'll have them at w.h. smiths. i forgot to buy some when i was at heathrow, and so i'll be doing the same thing for new xmas electronic goodies...

welcome to london, by the way! are you here for a while, or just a visit?

colette (a2lette), Friday, 2 January 2004 04:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Northfields to South Ealing must be the shortest distance between two stations on the Underground. I kinda hate it when trains terminate at Northfields, as it's such a long walk from there.

Welcome to London.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 2 January 2004 18:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Enjoy, gsav! Don't be an ILF stranger now, ya hear?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 January 2004 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Welcome, and I hope the bank account setup goes smoothly. I'll second Colette's recommendation for adaptor purchase places.

sgs (sgs), Friday, 2 January 2004 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey all! Thanks for the wonderful advice and comments. I guess I should have prefaced that I am indeed staying for at least two years while I'm studying at the London Film School - although it hasn't started yet; I'm currently being billeted with friends of my parents up in Barnet at the moment.

Latest updates/observations -

Rough day today; came down with a rather bad cold that I found out, upon talking to her this evening over the phone, has also infected my gf back home. And her whole family. (Ouch.) Nonetheless, I felt it more important to keep my excursion plans for the day and went with a neighbor down to Docklands and thereabouts. Certainly didn't do my cold well, but I'm glad I suffered through it nonetheless, because it was worth it.

Brief visit to the NFT to look around; I'll have to catch the Elephant premiere here later this month, as I missed the week it was in Baltimore. Stopped for a pint in Wether...damn, I'm just not good with names here. I believe it was a pint of Old Bob, which was decent but a bit too bitter aftertaste for my satisfaction. Oh, and later a salt beef sandwich, which I think I found out is similar to corned beef, if not the same. Wait, I ate beef? Oh, well...too late now. Docklands was good, but the day wasn't very nice out now, was it? A quick stop at the Tate Modern, where the weather art installation blew me away (and made me feel warmer). Great work there, and I discovered the great uses of monofrequency light. I will definitely be using that in a future film project - everything looked black and white with a pale yellow tint; I don't think I've ever seen anything through the naked eye in monochrome before.

Not much more to tell, as I slept through most of the rest of the day. Shall be going back to sleep shortly as well. Hopefully I'll hold up better tomorrow.

Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 2 January 2004 23:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm currently being billeted with friends of my parents up in Barnet at the moment.

!!!!!

You're on my old manor, so to speak. Are we talking High Barnet or the borough of Barnet?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 January 2004 23:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm just down the road from the High Barnet station, so I guess High Barnet?

Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 2 January 2004 23:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes! Ummm, I wish I could recommend some local "sights", but I'm kind of at a loss...

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 January 2004 23:44 (twenty-two years ago)

It's alright, the good company more than makes up for it.

Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 2 January 2004 23:45 (twenty-two years ago)

hey adam do you know what the story is with that windmill round Arkley way?

stevem (blueski), Friday, 2 January 2004 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)

broadside is a really nice beer.


mmmmm broadside. adnams finest.

ambrose (ambrose), Saturday, 3 January 2004 00:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Ugh...been sick the past day or so. Not fun.

Observation of the day
Tangential to all this is what I find the most unconsciously unsettling, I think - different brands of things. Obviously brands commonly found in America aren't here - and even then you can usually find something close enough and familiar, but then I get to feeling guilty that I'm just playing things safe and not really making any attempt at adapting. So for the moment I have this strange feeling in that I really have no idea what the brands are over here for the more mundane things, and oftentimes the differences, while only literally nominal, make me less confident in the item. I really ought to overcome that, I suppose; it's not that I distrust things from over here, it's just that I feel overwhelmingly lost in an alternate universe, so I instinctively flinch at them. I guess time and gradual exposure to adverts and things will change all that. I hope so.

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 4 January 2004 00:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Shop in Sainsbury's, buy all their own-brand stuff, you can't really go wrong.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 4 January 2004 00:14 (twenty-two years ago)

ahhhhh... Bisto!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 January 2004 00:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Supermarkets and food brands are the one thing that divides all Western nations, except possible Britain and Ireland.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 4 January 2004 00:16 (twenty-two years ago)

three weeks pass...
Okay, back from the dead. Not much internet usage lately, so virtually no posting...

Observations for today - I really need to find an affordable calling card. Right now I seem to have found Alpha Blue, which I am told is reasonable, except that any savings seemed to be cancelled out by the fact that my only reliable phone line is my mobile, and that ups the rates back up if I call using it. Surely there is a cheaper way to call the US, or must I be tethered to a landline for this to make sense?

I'm adjusting decently well, I think. I've started to stop thinking about prices in dollar equivalents, because it just drives one crazy. I decide that if the number would look right in dollars, it looks alright in pounds.

Found a flatshare in Manor House, which is nice b/c it is right on the border of Zone 2 and 3, so I can just get a Zones 1 and 2 pass - plus it's on the Piccadilly line, so a ten minute walk to the station and a twenty minute ride to Covent Garden and I'm set. And Turkish grocers all around are nice as far as shopping hours and prices go.

While searching for flatshares, I originally was concerned about finding a place with broadband, but most people actually seemed amused that I was even asking...I guess it's not as rampant over here. I pretty much gave up on finding it and a decent flatshare with cool people at a reasonable price - I'll just do my high-powered stuff on the school wireless connection...once I get my Airport card.

I need to get a small attache case and possibly a small backpack - where is the best place to buy these things?

I'm moving into the Manor House flat today and tomorrow and I have a lot of dirty clothes. I guess my adventures sans dryer begin...

Oh, and I have totally been taking advantage of the NFT. I get in free if there are empty seats for any non-special event show. I probably see, on a week's average, a movie per night there. Aside from my Hitchcock boxset of DVDs I brought with me, every film I've seen since I've gotten here has been viewed on the big screen. Then again, this reminds me that I need to find a decently priced region-code-free DVD player...arg...

Girolamo Savonarola, Wednesday, 28 January 2004 14:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Manor House eh? You'll be just down/up the road from me. see you on the N29 dude...

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

not sure what the best way of dealing with calling back home is. what network are you on? you can call the US for 15p a minute, which isn't too bad. you could check out onetel.co.uk and see if you can use their calling plans with your mobile as well.

and i think that they have a lot more region-free DVD players here. argos is good for cheap stuff like that.

there's several luggage shops on charing cross road just south of tottenham court road station. haven't ever bought anything at any of them, but have walked past on many occasions.

colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm currently on O2 pay as you go, which is decent, but once my bank account is set up, I really think I should go with a cheaper plan or something. Either way I doubt that mobile calls from UK to US will be affordable; I figure that I'll have to be chained to the landline for it to be at all cheap.

Argos? I'll have a look. Aren't the shops around those places expensive, though? I don't need anything special - just a relatively local place (or widespread chain) that will give me simple items like those for simple (for London) prices. Also, I think I'm going to have to buy a set of sheets and pillows...would I get these at the same place? Is there anywhere where I can consolidate my shopping a bit?

Sorry for the barrage of q's, but I really appreciate the help I've gotten here so far! And many gold ducats to whoever on ILX showed me to the world of MoveFlat on a previous thread months and months ago...

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 29 January 2004 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

argos has everything. you can search their website and reserve stuff to pick up (argos.co.uk, i think)

they have electronics and luggage and sheets and clothes and batteries and even US/UK plug adaptors, which i just discovered.

i seriously doubt if you'll be able to get a pay-monthly plan without jumping through a lot of hoops and/or spending a lot of money. even though i was here for school AND working, i couldn't get a pay-monthly phone until i'd been here for more than a year and already had a credit card (which i had to have a bank account for 1 year to get) and i still had to put like £100 as a deposit.

and the luggage shops on charing X are pretty cheap, i think. that's not the posh end of oxford street, and you can find a bargain. you might also take a walk down seven sisters road towards holloway road, since there's lots of weird little shops along there (especially towards the holloway end) that probably sell inexpensive bags and other household necessities.

as far as calling the states, i just tend to call people and have them call me back, since it's cheaper. also might be worth looking at internet phones, if you're getting broadband at your place.

colette (a2lette), Thursday, 29 January 2004 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Argos is very cheap. But if you're looking for incredibly cheap sheets and pillows and things, try going to a street market - Chapel Street in Islington, for example. If you are careful and compare between the stalls, you can get some amazing deals. Your pillows and sheets and towel won't necessarily match, but they'll be cheap!

The River Kate (kate), Thursday, 29 January 2004 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

(xpost) Broadband probably not in the cards...although if a compelling argument/price could be found...

Thanks again for the tips Colette! I'll have to buy you a drink at the next FAP. (/xpost)

Hmm...didn't think about street markets. I guess I'll have to see if I can deal with Argos first.

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 29 January 2004 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Argos is great for many things - mattresses and the like. If you don't want to go to Ikea, where the whole duvet/sheets/pillowcases set is about £20, there's BHS and John Lewis for sheets and towels. BHS is inexpensive and good quality; John Lewis has solid colours (I hate patterns on bedclothes) and is also pretty reasonable. I never buy market-based new clothes or soft furnishings because there are quality/returns policy issues there.

Weird that your housing search plowed up people who were not au fait with broadband.

suzy (suzy), Thursday, 29 January 2004 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Primark = the uber cheap.

Sarah (starry), Thursday, 29 January 2004 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

If BHS still have a sale on, their bedding is reduced to very cheap, and it's pretty good. Shame though that there are no Dunelm mill shops down here, we picked up some new bed stuff over xmas for ridiculously cheap prices

x-post

chris (chris), Thursday, 29 January 2004 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Buy £40 DVD player from Amazon:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000DC3MW/ref=br_lf_ce_2/026-1364989-6865221

Jesus! It's gone down to £30! Man, was that a wasted extra tenner I paid for it before Christmas. Still, it does just what it says on the tin ,and it's pretty frickin' cheap whichever way you look at it.

Belated welcomes also! Hurrah, another member for the North London ILX Massive. We must show those filthy south-of-the-river types the error of their ways.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 29 January 2004 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

And many gold ducats to whoever on ILX showed me to the world of MoveFlat on a previous thread months and months ago...

If you're talking about the Tracer in London thread, that might've been me. How many pints does a gold ducat buy these days?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 January 2004 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

hey g-sav, I took a picture of viale de Girolamo Savonarola when I was in Rome (it's right next to the vatican museums) and I'll post it here when I get it sized down. Also I saw a Tico Tico bar when I was in Sorrento but I was in a bus and couldn't get my camera out fast enough.

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 29 January 2004 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.rum.cz/galery/eur/fr/tico/img/fr367.jpg

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 January 2004 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Why am I up so late?

Any case, flat had a collective need for an Ikea run, so that sorted out the basic and immediate domestic issues of things like bedding, lights, etc. Oh, and Swedish meatball cravings...

Still undecided on DVD issues. Definitely need multiregion and multiformat (NTSC and PAL dual compatible). Don't want to spend mucho. I'll follow the tips as above, but problems often are that salespeople often simply don't know if the players can do multiregion (or sometimes what multiregion is - Yipes!). Still playing around here. Split about whether to buy a VHS, as again, I'd want a multiformat player, but most of those cost easily three figures, which is too much to pay for a consumer-usage VHS, multiformat or not.

Otherwise, I'd say I'm in good as far as the rest of my life is going for the moment. Now I have to start doing mundane things like cooking again.

Not having broadband isn't so bad, actually. It streamlines my Internet time (less wandering for wandering's sake), although it does keep me off of ILX a lot more than I wish it did. Sadly, this is probably for the better (schedule/work-wise, anyway) - I need to be better about my time-management. I'm still going to pop in as much as I can, though. And I'm getting an Airport card for my PB, so soon I'll have wireless broadband access at school and cafes and such. So that's not too bad!

Alright, must sleep. Have photo shoot tomorrow.

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 1 February 2004 03:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Mark and I recommend the 'swiftcall' or 'super swifty' phonecards for calling the US. I've found that they're the best rate, and can usually find them at little kiosks near train or tube stations. If you know of any in your neighborhood, that might be worth checking out. Getting a pay monthly phone for me was only slightly less annoying than getting a bank account set up, but I chose to go that route since I wanted a nice phone that would last and didn't want to pay full price for it on the pay-as-you-go-route. O2 will probably upgrade you to pay monthly fairly easily once you've used it for a few months, I'm guessing.

sgs (sgs), Sunday, 1 February 2004 12:19 (twenty-two years ago)

re luggage, I just passed a shop on the Tottenham High Road, near Bruce Grove, that promises 'impossible prices!'. I am not sure what this means. "Suitcase: three rainbows" or "Rucksack: £infinite" perhaps.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 1 February 2004 12:57 (twenty-two years ago)

three rainbows?! it's only worth two for cryin out loud

stevem (blueski), Sunday, 1 February 2004 13:12 (twenty-two years ago)

GS, the Super Swifty card (which I have heard claimed is only available in one shop in Brewer St in Soho, though I don't believe it for a minute - if you want me to pick one up for you I'd be happy to) is roughly 1.5p per minute to the US + cost of the local call, ALTHOUGH if you use a mobile then that will up the cost mightily. If you make even a fair amount of international calls, get a landline.

Bum bag - £square root of -1 (Toby to thread, obv)

Markelby (Mark C), Sunday, 1 February 2004 21:31 (twenty-two years ago)

i got a vcr at argos for around £50 that plays us and uk tapes. i really really wanted to watch kicking and screaming.

colette (a2lette), Monday, 2 February 2004 12:32 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...
Ahhh....finally heading back to the fair shores of England after a month in the States. I had a good time, but I really feel great going back to what is now home. Come tomorrow evening, I'll be on my way.

Oyster Cards, A4 paper, degrees Celsius, stone weight, and tea & biscuits (to name just a few of you) - I missed you guys!

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 29 April 2004 03:10 (twenty-two years ago)


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