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Is this a made-up religion, or what? A mish-mash pulled out of thin air in the 70's or so. Aside from pounding the bongpipe and paying lots of money to super-expensive undergraduate institutions, rich dudes with dreads never did anything good for anybody. And how many of them now actually regret voting for Ralph Nader?

And BLACK Trustas - um, do they even exist?!?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 12 January 2004 20:41 (twenty years ago) link

OH THEY DO (I wish I was one)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 12 January 2004 20:43 (twenty years ago) link

how would you tell the difference bw them and rastas (assuming that you didn't know that the black trustas had $$$)?

and more importantly -- DO THEY ALSO LIKE PHISH AND THE DEAD??

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 12 January 2004 20:45 (twenty years ago) link

Presence at a Phish show is PRECISELY how you tell black trustas apart from black rastas.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 12 January 2004 20:46 (twenty years ago) link

Who are Phish? I've never heard of them outside of ILX.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 12 January 2004 20:47 (twenty years ago) link

I actually contributed "Trustafarian" to the online Oxford English Dictionary new word submissions. I'm not sure if it's a real word yet.

Destroy: trustafarian roommates who feign poverty, eating ramen and minute rice, while they have like $5,600 in the bank and you have to dig through the sofa to find soup money. Destroy them, destroy, destroy, destroy.

― andy, Monday, 12 January 2004 20:47 (twenty years ago) link

Don't destroy, just steal their ATM card.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 12 January 2004 20:48 (twenty years ago) link

Milo OTM.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 12 January 2004 20:48 (twenty years ago) link

A friend of a friend was a trustafarian and we all moved to a resort town together. He put up the security deposit for our apt. and often bought rounds at the bar. He was semi-fun to be around regardless of his vast amounts of money, but we lost him to a group of more seasoned & greedy moochs who got him into coke.
Shortly after I left (to chase a girl across the country, always one time zone behind), he tried to buy a new car with cash, and being like 21 then, he was turned down at five different dealerships.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Monday, 12 January 2004 20:52 (twenty years ago) link

Although I see tons of suspected trustas, I once lived across the street from the trustafarian primogenitor. He looked exactly like you had think, was annoying as fuck, and had once received some HUGE sum of money from his parents (I must have blocked it out, but it was like twenty grand) and blown it all on a cross country trip following bands and buying lots of drugs (mostly coke). I only know all this because a friend of a friend fucked him when they were staying at my house one night, god knows why.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 12 January 2004 20:53 (twenty years ago) link

Presence at a Phish show is PRECISELY how you tell black trustas apart from black rastas

And how would you know, Dan? Thought you has better taste than hanging at Phish shows? I'm devastated.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 12 January 2004 20:55 (twenty years ago) link

He goes there with Alex in NYC and they eat fondue backstage with the band.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 12 January 2004 20:56 (twenty years ago) link

Getting pissed off about trust fund kids is about as useful as getting pissed off at corporate nepotism, I've found out. Who even cares? Just buy me a goddamned drink, son.

― Allyzay, Monday, 12 January 2004 20:57 (twenty years ago) link

When you are in a room full of trustas of all races and they're all talking about how great Phish is and how amazing the last concert was... well, it's enough to drive a man to drink. (Which is what I would do, ha.)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 12 January 2004 20:58 (twenty years ago) link

As long as they're really stoned, they don't bother me. I just don't like rich people giving me attitude, that's all. They should all be stoned, all the time.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Monday, 12 January 2004 20:58 (twenty years ago) link

I *wish* I was a trustafarian right now. I promise not to spend it all on drugs.

― That famous guy who won a prize (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 January 2004 20:59 (twenty years ago) link

Dude, you'd be an awful trusta.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 12 January 2004 20:59 (twenty years ago) link

Now what makes you say that?

― That famous guy who won a prize (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:01 (twenty years ago) link

I cut up my credit cards two weeks ago, like Rachel in Friends.

― That famous guy who won a prize (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:02 (twenty years ago) link

Trusta rule number one is that you have to buy tons of shitty pot and pretend to be a conoisseur.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:02 (twenty years ago) link

You're a wise trusta, then.

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― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:03 (twenty years ago) link

Once again, Milo OTM.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:04 (twenty years ago) link

"This, this is blueberry hydro, man. My dealer said it was the best he'd ever seen"

I think trusta rule number two involves spending ridiculous sums of money on the opposite sex, hoping to buy your way into his/her heart (or pants).

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:05 (twenty years ago) link

METHINKS MILO KNOWS THIS SCHTICK A LITTLE TOO WELL

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:06 (twenty years ago) link

...well he is an art student...

― That famous guy who won a prize (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:07 (twenty years ago) link

;)

― That famous guy who won a prize (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:07 (twenty years ago) link

Hey Milo, do you think you could give me, like, $5K?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:07 (twenty years ago) link

$10k?

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:07 (twenty years ago) link

Hmmm, the one I was talking about bought a frozen pizza for my friend and himself, then forgot all about it once the smoking and sex and sleeping began. She woke up at like 4 am to turn off the oven and throw away the blackened ex-pizza.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:08 (twenty years ago) link

Go for gold, ask for $30K.

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― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:08 (twenty years ago) link

Am I the only person who knows a trustafarian who is actually awesome?

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:09 (twenty years ago) link

Actually, my friend dated a girl whose father owns (chairman? director? something...) a very prominent London football club. She had a bed that was half-bed/half-jukebox (!) and a swimming pool with a rockslide on it and a back garden that made Narnia look like Madam Trash-heap. And a christmas card from Phil Colllins!

― That famous guy who won a prize (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:11 (twenty years ago) link

I have known several great trustafarians. This has never stopped me from making fun of their Phish-love.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:11 (twenty years ago) link

Oh and btw, I've seen actual rastas at Phish shows. Ripping off trustas.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:11 (twenty years ago) link

You know you secretly envy them, Perry, while waving your glow-stick.

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― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:12 (twenty years ago) link

What is the appeal of Phish exactly?

― That famous guy who won a prize (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:13 (twenty years ago) link

Shhhhhh. The checks are in the mail to everyone on this thread, keep my secret safe.

I actually only know two (definite) trustafarians. One was a loser, got a friend of mine pregnant and then ran, the other one was cool, he worked and went to school, tried to play down the family money. But yeah, even nice people get ridiculed for Phish-love.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:13 (twenty years ago) link

What is the appeal of Phish exactly?

Best I could tell you, sometimes their music breaks from retarded ridiculosity and conveys a somewhat surprising exploratory euphoria. But you have to be able to put up with/appreciate the ridiculous shit to get to it.

Of all the questions I could've answered straight-facedly, I have a feeling this is the one I will take the most shit for.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:16 (twenty years ago) link

90% of Burlington, Vt to thread

― kephm, Monday, 12 January 2004 21:17 (twenty years ago) link

nickalicious we all love you. I don't even know who Phish are.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:17 (twenty years ago) link

Of all the questions I could've answered straight-facedly, I have a feeling this is the one I will take the most shit for.

But you stick to your guns and that's why we all love you.

― That famous guy who won a prize (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:18 (twenty years ago) link

(Lovin x-post)

― That famous guy who won a prize (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:18 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.geol.umd.edu/~jmerck/eltfal00/118g/l3/dirt.jpg

― kephm, Monday, 12 January 2004 21:19 (twenty years ago) link

Regarding Phish-appeal...also: getting right wasted. Outside. Around pretty people. Who are dumbasses. And easy to take advantage of.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:20 (twenty years ago) link

So Phish are basically Sonic Youth with dreds?

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:23 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.museumserver.nl/expositie/kunc/uitdoven/graphics/baby.jpg

― kephm, Monday, 12 January 2004 21:29 (twenty years ago) link

Am I the only person who knows a trustafarian who is actually awesome?
nope. i know some good 'uns who, in addition to being generally nice people, neither try to hide nor rub your face in their $, will quietly stand dinner/drinks/cabs from time to time, and have used their financial security to pursue interesting careers that have directly benefitted more than a few friends of theirs.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:30 (twenty years ago) link

Speaking of the dread, where be the Ed?

― Momus (Momus), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:44 (twenty years ago) link

Ed likes Phish. Pass it on.

― That famous guy who won a prize (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:46 (twenty years ago) link

how many of them do you think voted for Bush on the sly?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:49 (twenty years ago) link

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I kinda like the smell of patchouli coochie.

― Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 12 January 2004 22:36 (twenty years ago) link

This thread has been locked by a retching moderator who really couldn't deal with the Coulter thing any longer.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 12 January 2004 22:37 (twenty years ago) link

youngish right-wing deadheads is a frighteningly common thing.

I grew up in a neighborhood in L.A. filled with them.

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 12 January 2004 22:40 (twenty years ago) link

Someone post that Ann Coulter pic where she's showing off her rank wrinkled armpits while trying to look hot.

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 12 January 2004 22:40 (twenty years ago) link

(haha is there a meta tag we can insert that would push this thread up to the top of search engines?)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 12 January 2004 22:41 (twenty years ago) link

that is, whatever wrinkles you can make out in a body that makes Kate Moss nearly look like Kelly Oz.

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 12 January 2004 22:41 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.constitution.org/ann_coulter/coulter1.jpg

― Kerry (dymaxia), Monday, 12 January 2004 22:43 (twenty years ago) link

I HATE ALL OF YOU

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 12 January 2004 22:43 (twenty years ago) link

http://users.rcn.com/skutsch/anticoulter/images/gun.jpg

― Kerry (dymaxia), Monday, 12 January 2004 22:45 (twenty years ago) link

Great - now this thread will show up in the logs of the "Constitution Society." Perhaps a different version of the 'armpit picture' should be posted.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Monday, 12 January 2004 22:46 (twenty years ago) link

Out of curiosity, where does Anne Coulter live?

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 12 January 2004 22:55 (twenty years ago) link

In the fifth circle of hell.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 12 January 2004 22:56 (twenty years ago) link

Tacoma, WA?

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 12 January 2004 22:58 (twenty years ago) link

(The picture of her with the gun looks like my dad's old house.)

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 12 January 2004 22:59 (twenty years ago) link

you think she lives with your dad?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 12 January 2004 23:06 (twenty years ago) link

!!!

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 12 January 2004 23:07 (twenty years ago) link

Me and Coulter Down by the Old Man's House (A True Story)

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 12 January 2004 23:11 (twenty years ago) link

http://216.218.248.155/datastore/87/86/b/878624cb2d0b3bc84e54eb33ab25d3d7.jpg

tighten up!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 12 January 2004 23:21 (twenty years ago) link

He goes there with Alex in NYC and they eat fondue backstage with the band.

Mock fondue again, Southall, and you'll be in one!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 00:55 (twenty years ago) link

This thread is a disturbing peek into our souls.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 02:31 (twenty years ago) link

it's melted cheese! why is it so great?!? i don't get it.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 02:32 (twenty years ago) link

mr. bad-acid kitty is much better than fondue.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 02:33 (twenty years ago) link

The one Phish song I've heard, "You Enjoy Myself", is actually quite nice fingerpicking/organ fusion. Until you get to the vocals anyway, which come pretty late and don't last too long.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 17 January 2004 19:28 (twenty years ago) link

(I don't get the issue with trust-fund hippies BTW. They're probably the sweetest, most harmless people on earth.)

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 17 January 2004 19:31 (twenty years ago) link

Until they get their MBA.

Are today's trustafarians the 'punks' and slackers of previous generations?

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 17 January 2004 19:38 (twenty years ago) link

Oh. The only people I've known who might fit in this category were studying either music or poli sci/geography/some social science.

FWIW of the 2 Phish fanatics I've known, 1 was also a huge Sonic Youth fan who thought Goodbye 20th Century was brilliant.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 17 January 2004 20:00 (twenty years ago) link

I actually contributed "Trustafarian" to the online Oxford English Dictionary new word submissions. I'm not sure if it's a real word yet.

Andy, it is!

I can't find any info on the OED site -- but a Google search for "trustafarian + oxford english" pulls up a few blog entries from last summer with a list of new OED words -- one of which is "trustafarian."

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 17 January 2004 20:19 (twenty years ago) link

There are a lot of Phish fans who are into Sonic Youth. Phish themselves are pretty self-aware about their trustafarianism. (none of them have dreads though; I don't think that's a requirement)

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 17 January 2004 21:06 (twenty years ago) link

My car was paid for with the money that didn't get spent on my fourth year of college because I dropped out and joined the USAF instead. And this computer was paid for with accrued interest on investments I didn't make. I sometimes feel shitty about all this but at some point in my military career I realized it's not like I chose to have parents who decided to throw a lot of money into what turned out to be extremely well-performing mutual funds when I was three feet tall so I quit being ashamed, though it's been evident in a couple of social encounters that it's still a very touchy subject with me. Aside from the car and the computer I've only ever touched the money once, to cover repairs on said car before the credit card interest killed me.

― TOMBOT, Saturday, 17 January 2004 22:19 (twenty years ago) link

Yer a wise man, Tom, and you've proven your worth many times over.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 17 January 2004 22:28 (twenty years ago) link

Being in the military automatically disqualifies you from being trustafarian.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 17 January 2004 22:32 (twenty years ago) link

Eh, in terms of the dreads, mebbe, but I've heard a tale or two of military equivalents -- that's more straight nepotism, though.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 17 January 2004 22:37 (twenty years ago) link

Nepomilitant! It's like ice cream!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 17 January 2004 23:49 (twenty years ago) link

no dan, that's "NepomiliMINT"

― Kingfishee (Kingfish), Sunday, 18 January 2004 00:02 (twenty years ago) link

how bout some of that sweeeet antidispistachomentdairyanism?

― stevem (blueski), Sunday, 18 January 2004 00:26 (twenty years ago) link

just scanned the thread, but Dan, I booked Phish abt 15 years ago - what does that make me? (coz I don't see meself as a trusta)

― H (Heruy), Monday, 19 January 2004 03:45 (twenty years ago) link

And BLACK Trustas - um, do they even exist?!?

http://sp24-7.lambtron.com/grabs/512/token15.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 19 January 2004 03:58 (twenty years ago) link

What Tombot said.

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 19 January 2004 14:03 (twenty years ago) link

when did you join the yankee airforce Mark?

― chris (chris), Monday, 19 January 2004 14:11 (twenty years ago) link

'69.

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 19 January 2004 14:13 (twenty years ago) link

dude

― chris (chris), Monday, 19 January 2004 14:24 (twenty years ago) link

H IS A TRUSTA! QUICK EVERYONE HIT HIM UP FOR A FREE VACATION TO VENICE!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago) link

That was also when Mark got his first real six string.

― Allyzay, Monday, 19 January 2004 19:12 (twenty years ago) link

six months pass...

I need to live vicariously off of some trustafarian anecdotes. Tell me about how great it is to be getting up at 10am and devoting all of your time to creative vanity projects. I also want to hear about the travel.

― broken twig, Monday, 26 July 2004 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link

i need longer to read this whole thread. have always been curious about the whole trustafarian phenomenon though. at first i thought it was about ridiculously rich rastas with a huge inheritance.

― thesplooge (thesplooge), Monday, 26 July 2004 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

ARE YOU A TRIPSTER?!?!?! OMG WTF LOL

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 26 July 2004 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I think Trustafarians are to the 90's what Tripsters are to the 00's

― George W. ILX (ex machina), Monday, 26 July 2004 16:01 (nineteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

i guess that i've been PWNED, not once (by an economist, no less!) but also by a blogger obsessed w/ buttfucking.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link

six months pass...

this is an Officially Recognized AWESOME thread.
i rotflmao'd at least once...

― eedd, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link

What's the relationship between trustafarianism and The Josh Project? Are Joshes trustafarians who have almost run out of trust fund money?

I quote from www.ballingbread.blogspot.com:

"Just had a vision of me walking around sometime in the scary future, when my scholarship runs out and I'm desperately seeking (or crawling back to) some foul retail job, with Cher's When the Money's Gone looped in my "headtapes". It's never Bob Dylan that's playing in my head, is it?

BUT, if I was a "Josh", perhaps it would be Ben Harper on loop? Or Jack Johnson. No, this would NOT be a good thing, but it would be a "Josh" thing. You see, I aspire to be a "Josh" like person, and this is why a while ago I lauched "PROJECT JOSH". Let me describe "Josh" to you...

Josh is a Postgraduate English student. He's writing a thesis on some insanely esoteric topic, but he's one cool dude. You might find him down by the bay sitting in his VE Commodore wagon, near a surfboard (but maybe not ON one). He would be wearing a blue bonds T-Shirt, and some Thai fishermen pants. But he would look effortlessly cool.

Nothing would get Josh ruffled. He takes things as they come. If things get a bit too "heavy", he might head off to the coast for some "thinkin' time". He would do stuff like read Virginia Woolf, but he would never talk about it. He would like music that was "authentic", but would "respect" Can't Get You Out of My Head for it's genius.

Josh would write poetry and paint tortued art, but never show anyone. Josh would be highly emotional, and cry at appropriately sad moments. Josh would eat mostly vegetables, but wouldn't be afraid to have a big juicy burger now and then, 'cause you know what? Life's too short not too! Josh would use organic skin products, and go to health food stores...

WAIT A MINUTE? Is Josh a wanker?? And in actuality, when I think about it, Josh is prolly more likely to head down to the beach in a 2004 VW Golf he got for his birthday, and stay at his parent's "weekender" in Sorrento... AND am I aspiring towards some kind of rugged masculinity? 'Cause that would totally not be cool... OK, Project Josh is OVER."

― moley, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link

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