OPO: Lord of the Rings Vs Star Wars (Episodes 4-6)

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A straight vote, democracy in action.

― hmmmm, Monday, 19 January 2004 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

This is one vote for LOTR.

― hmmmm, Monday, 19 January 2004 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

this a Taking Sides rather than an OPO yes? tough call but i may have to pick Star Wars because it's influenced and inspired me more all in all (also, robots > wizards)

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 19 January 2004 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I meant only pick either LOTR or Star Wars. It made sense in my head but now I see that it was just stupid (*belms*).

― hmmm, Monday, 19 January 2004 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)

TS: Luke Skywalker's "Obi-WAAAAAAAAAAN!" vs. Frodo Baggins's "GANDAAAAAALF!"

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 19 January 2004 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

In both cases, killing them only made them stronger.

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Monday, 19 January 2004 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Star Wars has wizards too!

Could Star Wars be made today, or would it end up like Ep i-iii? I'm thinking about things like George Lucas keeping Return of The Jedi secret by filming it as Blue Harvest. Can you make a surprising blockbuster these days?

Actually I'm thinking you can because a lot of people were surprised by how shit the Matrix sequels were. But the big set-pieces were known beforehand.

Also, I'm curious as to whether Ian McKellan thought much about Guinness's legacy before signing up: a full film and stage career, remembered primarily for one knocked-out film done in his declining years.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 19 January 2004 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Dud.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 19 January 2004 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

The difference being that Guinness thought Star Wars was crap, while I've never heard anyone connected with LOTR say a single bad thing about it.

― dleone (dleone), Monday, 19 January 2004 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I loved star wars when I was younger, but I can really take it or leave it now, so I would have to say LOTR. (not a great reason, but tough!)

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 19 January 2004 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

duane: I assume that the actors involved in LOTR have ironclad legal agreements about what they can and can't say about the film. Part of (almost all of) the difference between now and then is that films aren't casual blockbusters starring some no-hopers. There's a lot of money going out on the film before bums go on seats, and a lot of effort put into reducing risk wherever possible.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 19 January 2004 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

The Alec Guiness Arena Profile on tv at xmas exploded the myth that he thought Star Wars was crap; in fact he was its biggest supporter on-set, when all the other actors were wandering about grumbling and Lucas himself was depressed at the criticism Guinness would gee him up, tell him how strong the whole thing was etc. They became good friends. The story of Guinness and the kid is true of course, it seems he was being mischeivous rather than nasty; after all the kid did say he'd seen it 1oo times or however many it was.

― pete s, Monday, 19 January 2004 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I probably won't see Return of the King until I can watch it in my bathrobe (no slippers), nor will I see the final (I can only hope) SW movie ever maybe.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Monday, 19 January 2004 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

So it's a tie!

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Monday, 19 January 2004 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I pick LotR even though I love Star Wars eps. 4-6 as well. It'd probably be harder for me to choose if the first two SW episodes hadn't sucked.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 19 January 2004 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)

The Alec Guiness Arena Profile on tv at xmas exploded the myth that he thought Star Wars was crap; in fact he was its biggest supporter on-set, when all the other actors were wandering about grumbling and Lucas himself was depressed at the criticism Guinness would gee him up, tell him how strong the whole thing was etc.
While by the same token, in his Autobiography, Guiness devoted 1 single sentence to his part in Star Wars.

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Monday, 19 January 2004 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)

In which autobiography? IIRC, Guiness published several memoirs.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Monday, 19 January 2004 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)

As a Guinness fan i can say that of all the films/projects he was involved in it's without doubt the least interesting. And he had impeccable judgement

― pete s, Monday, 19 January 2004 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

And really, after the first one, he has like a grand total of 6 minutes screen time (he's not even seen in Empire, is he?).
Mind you Boba Fett has like 11 minutes or something in the WHOLE trilogy and had a huge cult following.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Monday, 19 January 2004 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

(Meaning there was so much to talk about why waste time on the most famous movie ever made. It didn't need the publicity. I do take your point of course though)

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― pete s, Monday, 19 January 2004 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)

he's not even seen in Empire, is he?

At the beginning in a vision to Luke on Hoth and just before Luke leaves Yoda to go to Bespin.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 January 2004 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I couldn't remember if he was shown as a blueish outline thing or just heard.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Monday, 19 January 2004 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

My mom and I can basically recite the entirety of the "first" Star Wars film word for word back and forth at each other.

Te only reason I really liked any of Lord of the Rings was because I enjoyed watching Viggo Mortensen and Orlando Bloom fuck shit up; anything else going on annoyed me, ESPECIALLY THE HOBBITS JESUS CHRIST.

So it is Star Wars all the way for me. Now if only they'd come out on DVD ORIGINAL VERSION NOT THE F UCKING REDONE VERSION.

― Allyzay, Monday, 19 January 2004 17:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Fellowship wins this hands down.

― C-Man (C-Man), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

M'Lud I present exhibit A. as concrete evidence of the greatest scene in cinematic history.

Admiral Piett: Bounty hunters. We don't need their scum.
Bossk: Ehhhhrrrr

― @lex K (Alex K), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I like how the guys down below are just checking their e-mail or giving dirty looks to the people next to them.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Star Wars.

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)

You know what I love best about that film - when Vader orders the entire Imperial fleet into the asteroid field, and he has the hologram link up with three of his admirals and while he's talking to them, one of them flinches horribly, flickers and disappears - obv his ship was just atomised on a huge meteor. And Vader doesn't even miss a beat.

Ah, Lord Vader. You gotta love him.

― @lex K (Alex K), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)

he had a bad childhood.

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:28 (twenty-two years ago)

he's all heart.

― @lex K (Alex K), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

He was traumatized by Ewan beard.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

He had bad films in his childhood and adolescence.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

He said 'yippee' one too many times.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

He had his heart removed and became a twisted blackened fusion of cybernetics and flesh, the last remnants of his humanity slowly corrupted and consumed by the malignant elemental forces of the sith.

― @lex K (Alex K), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

and also had a horrible disappointment of a son

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)

And Obi Wan wouldn't let him hang around sports bars unless they were chasing assassins.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:36 (twenty-two years ago)

and weren't members of Nsync supposedly in that sports bar?

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:37 (twenty-two years ago)

and that awful pig-tail he had when he was a teenager.

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)

His father figure was a wrinkly old bastard who loved nothing more than to wrack his body with lightening bolts which he would fire from his hands while relentlessly cackling any time Vader didn't do as he was told.

― @lex K (Alex K), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)

and didn't he wind up a tired old white man after living the best years of his life as a powerful tall black man?

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

and the fact his voice still cracked when he was 20

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Han Solo killed his childhood best-friend Greedo.

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:42 (twenty-two years ago)

and he developed asthma as an adult

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)

His bedroom was dated 80's bachelor too - all blacks and chromes, you know what I mean. That's got to get to you. It's very cold.

― @lex K (Alex K), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)

and he could only sit down in enclosed pods and Bespin executive power lunch suites

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

and no one EVER asked him, "But how do YOU feel about all this?"

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:56 (twenty-two years ago)

and he hated being called a youngling

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

that's coz his two best friends when he was a teenager were robots. I doubt if the Jedi taught him the facts of life either.

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

"When a Jedi loves his lightsaber very VERY much..."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:59 (twenty-two years ago)

He had powerful sperm though.
As far as we can tell, he only had sex the one time, and TWO found eggs!!!
What are the odds of that?

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Monday, 19 January 2004 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

er, it only takes one sperm to create twins

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 19 January 2004 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)

not boy-girl twins

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Monday, 19 January 2004 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)

did i say sperm? i meant MIDICHLORIANS

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 19 January 2004 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I always thought they were saying mini chlorines. Anyway, MIDICHLORIANS sounds like the kinda thing they have in washing powder. "Full of MIDICHLORIANS for extra cleaning power"

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 19 January 2004 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)

well, they needed that in the grit of Tattoine

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Monday, 19 January 2004 18:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Of course you can get m/f twins from one sexing??

Anyway, I hope Anakin Skywalker kills Natalie Portman in the next one. That would make anyone evil.

― ModJ (ModJ), Monday, 19 January 2004 18:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Of course you can get m/f twins from one sexing??

but not one sperm.
but like the guy made whoopee (as they say on the New Newlywed Game) one time only! So (if it was anything like my first time) it was probably awkward and bad and unenjoyable and involved many tears afterward.
No wonder he liked to push people around.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Monday, 19 January 2004 18:19 (twenty-two years ago)

TS: Golum vs. Boba Fett

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 19 January 2004 18:19 (twenty-two years ago)

He's a Jedi, he has powers.

― ModJ (ModJ), Monday, 19 January 2004 18:19 (twenty-two years ago)

but like the guy made whoopee (as they say on the New Newlywed Game) one time only!

In the butt, Bob?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 January 2004 18:21 (twenty-two years ago)

if it had been, Episodes 4-6 woulda been sorta dull. Or not: ALL HAN & CHEWIE ALL THE TIME!!!

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Monday, 19 January 2004 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Now there's slashfic that escaped my brain until now.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 January 2004 18:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't wait for WOOKIES in Ep. 3!!
Yes, Ep. 4-6 still rule. Always will. Sorry.

The LOTR movies (esp. ROTK) are beeyootiful, though.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Monday, 19 January 2004 20:53 (twenty-two years ago)

the correct spelling is Wookiees?

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Monday, 19 January 2004 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)

No, just one e.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 January 2004 21:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Lord of the Rings of course.

― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 19 January 2004 21:09 (twenty-two years ago)

GET A LIEF gEEKS

― sucka (sucka), Monday, 19 January 2004 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)

he's right you know

― Lief Ove Andsnes, Monday, 19 January 2004 21:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Score so far: 4 all.

The sperm seem to be winning...

― hmmmm, Tuesday, 20 January 2004 10:21 (twenty-two years ago)

SPERM ALWAYS WINS

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Spermlander - there can be only one (or sometimes two). Film at 11.

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I think my saying 'democracy in action' was more prescient than I ever could have realised.

― hmmm, Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Nope, according to starwars.com (who ought to know) it's WookiEEs, as illogical as that may sound.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

(My vote as of right now is for LOTR, BTW.)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Perhaps they have had some RoofiEEs.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Roofie:

http://espn.go.com/media/pg2/2001/0206/photo/a_ruthie2_m.jpg

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:40 (twenty-two years ago)

She'd probably help fuck up anyone's spelling.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:40 (twenty-two years ago)

And then she'd lay down the wicked rhymes, yo. Her and Teck Money, word life. Ya heard?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Real World Star Wars would own this thread.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:42 (twenty-two years ago)

DARTH LA DAVID! BOBA PUCK!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:46 (twenty-two years ago)

(This is the sound of Dan switching his vote back to Star Wars on a capricious whim.)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

You both scare me.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Do we sacre you as much as Qui-Gon Brynn or Iru-Lan Kenobi?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Now you do.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Sacre bleu!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)

All in keeping with your role as Pope, sir.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Never seen any of the LOTR, so Star Warz by default. But DON'T CALL THEM '4-6' FOR CHRIST'S SAKE. IT'S 1-3!!!!!!!

― Enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)

(Hahaha The Real World jumped the shark when they started picking cast members with Star Wars names.)

xpost: Enrique, sorry to burst your bubble but they're parts 4-6 of the story. People have been calling them "4-6" since the early 80s.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

If by people you mean nerds...

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Who posting on this thread is NOT a nerd?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Seriously? I thought it was marketing jizz -- I mean he had to make up 'Jedi' as he went along, right?
xpost

― Enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

But there's nothing funnier than nerds calling other nerds nerds!

Nerd-on-nerd violence!

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

(Where is Nicole? I need someone to laugh at Princess Leah and CT-PO jokes.)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I had to, like, work and stuff.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

WHY OH WHY CAN'T EVERYONE MULTITASK LIKE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Multitask = not do work?

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Yay multitasking! I'm scanning, uploading and posting as I type!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)

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