Dave Chappelle - "Killin' 'Em Softly"

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I got an audio rip of this and I have not laughed this hard at a comedy record in my entire life.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Monday, 19 January 2004 23:29 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

he is genius. Can't wait for the new season of his show.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 19 January 2004 23:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I was thinking about Chappelle in the lineage of Great Black Comedians, starting with Pryor and through Murphy and Rock... Each one had their schtick, as all good comedians do...

1) Pryor invented the take-the-word back style of angry black comedy, and grew enough to change in his old age and phase 'nigger' out of his routine (as detaled brilliantly in it).

2) Murphy made the ghetto his subject matter and perhaps the "black guys walk like this, white guys walk like this" stuff too. He became a parody of himself, as we see now.

3) Chris Rock has made a living on Black People v. Niggers to more or less great effect -- rather than white v. black, it became black v. black.

4) And then there's Dave Chappelle, who's material seems totally boderline -- it's as if he were a white southern racist in a black man's body. He's just MEAN... and funny, natch. But he seems to be a major departure from the form, or the lineage that one might expect from what came before.

ModJ (ModJ), Monday, 19 January 2004 23:47 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Chappelle just tells it like it is, man.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Monday, 19 January 2004 23:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I'm curious to hear this. I still haven't had a chance to see his show so mainly I know him from this...
http://www.geocities.com/puckrobin/rh/elwes3.jpg

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 19 January 2004 23:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Which is way more "new Pryor" in a The Toy sense than in a Live In Concert sense.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 19 January 2004 23:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Search: Conspiracy Brother in Undercover Brother, Pinball in Con Air
Destroy: Ahchoo in Robin Hood: Men in Tights (xpost)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 00:03 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I really like his show, but he's even funnier in interviews and doing stand-up (and in general I don't care for stand-up)

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 00:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I was looking forward to Robin Hood after seeing him on Just For Laughs. He did a great Rodney King set, which is impressive considering everyone was doing Rodney King.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 00:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Just got this off kazaa. Thanks.

"A black man would never talk to the police [while] high. That's just a waste of weed."

Aaron A., Tuesday, 20 January 2004 01:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

haha, Dave chappelle is my favorite ever :(

I SAID "BABY, WHAT THE FUCK YOU DOING OUT AT 1AM?"
THE BABY SAID "FUCK YOU NIGGA, I'M SELLING WEED"

his show is super-great too. the occasional bum sketch, but most of them are great. and really MEAN too, he's such a dick! but that's tied into the whole 'great' thing too

Adrian (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 01:31 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

All I know about the show is that one sketch evidently had Redman inside of a toilet bowl (possibly standing on a cleaning cake of some sort). Fuckin' a!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 02:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

David Chapelle is great. I love the sketch on his show (the first episode, I think) about the blind Klansman who doesn't know he's black.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 02:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The "Real World" take-off on the Chappelle show was one of Comedy Central's greatest moments.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 02:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"Wu Tang Financial"! I love him, he's adorable.

Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 02:58 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The Real World bit was brilliant, I love how chappelle is always playing a guy named TRON. I was also eerily reminded of that sketch when I saw an episode of the new Real World season, wherein five crazy white people ostracize and scream at one previously-normal, amiable black guy.

Adrian (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 03:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The night-vision stuff predated Paris Hilton by a year, too. He's psychic!

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 03:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"Ol' Dirty couldn't be here today, but he told us to tell you: 'ungh ugh ungh!'"

Dan I., Tuesday, 20 January 2004 03:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

oh and "You need to diversify your bonds, nigga!"
ha the laughter

Dan I. (Dan I.), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 03:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I loved the R. Kelly parody.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 03:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Anybody have these on tape? Let's trade, as I am cable-less.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 04:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yes, I live on Earth. It's just that cable in Jersey City sucks.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 04:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Or you could not have cable at all, admittedly by choice (which is why I know nothing of what you people are talking about! sounds funny, though).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 04:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The Player Hater Awards sketch is a classic.

earlnash, Tuesday, 20 January 2004 04:29 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

All I know about the show is that one sketch evidently had Redman inside of a toilet bowl (possibly standing on a cleaning cake of some sort).

No, it was a jet ski! With Dave's girlfriend!

Funniest not-really-a-line from the Chappelle Show: his imitation of Pac-Man.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 05:18 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Also: "TURN MY HEADPHONES UP!"

nate detritus (natedetritus), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 05:35 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

that one's not funny.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 06:03 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

:) psych

Dan I. (Dan I.), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 06:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

watched the dave chapelle show last night, haven't laughed so much in like...forever

ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 07:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I can't believe you guys started this thread without me!
I like his riffs on children's television.
He calls Pepe LePew a rapist, Snuffleupagus (sp???) a junkie, and his bit on Oscar the Grouch just kills me.
'Oscar, why are you such a grouch?'
'Bitch, I live in a garbage can!'
And then we wonder why our kids grow up and step over homeless people...
'Get a job, grouch.'

Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 14:59 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

DAVE CHAPPELLE IS SUPER-CLASSIC. The crack addict sketches always slay me.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I'M RIIIIIIIICH BEYOOOOOTCH

ModJ (ModJ), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

How awesome is he in Screwed?

Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

THEE ORIGINAL

Yeah, It's the R
40 ounces of malt liquor make me wanna tell you somethin'...

See i roll around sittin' on dubs,
cat 'n now I was high on shrubs.
Coolin' in my escalade...
Man, I'm paid, I got it made
Take me to your special place
Close your eyes,
show me your face...
I'm gonna piss on it.

Hatas wanna hate,
Lovas wanna love,
I don't even want
None of the above.
I want to piss on you.
Yes I do,
I'll piss on you
I'll pee on you.

Set your body,
your body,
as a porto-potty
and a pee I'd kick.
like it most erotic.

I'ma pee on you..
drip drip drip
pee on you,
all on you.
iss on you, iss on you.

You would never feel quite the same
when you get a whiff of my Hershey's™ stains
I wanna poop on you, too.
I want to pee on yo food.

Only thing that make my life complete,
is when I turn yo face into a toilet seat.
I want to pee on you,
Yes I do, yes I do
I'll pee on you, I'll piss on you

Hatas wanna hate,
Lovas wanna love,
I don't even want
none of the above.
I want to piss on you.
Yes I do
I'll piss on you,
I'll pee on you.

Won't you braid my hair?
So, won't you braid my hair?
Before you start,
I'm gonna fart.
I'm 'onna fart on you.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 16:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

THEE REMIX

Normally, i don't do this...
but, i'ma hit you all off with a lil' taste of the remix... y'all ready? here we go...

I pick you up from the club,
take you home to make some love.
Gotta surprise, close your eye
I'm gonna cover you with suds

I'ma give you some poo poo
I'ma give you some pee pee
I'ma give you some doo doo
And wash it down, some wee wee

This is the remix edition
of a song about pissin'
I got the pee and we can re-can
and leave juice in the kitchen

Yeah, that's how it goes in the R.Kelly party
I sip Crys... you drink piss...
(I wanna piss on you remix... you heard?)
Now, I'm serious...
I really do wanna piss on you.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 16:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

/me dies

dean! (deangulberry), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Did anyone else see a bit where Chappelle is conducting a women's chorus, singing something about diarrhea, or did I hallucinate that? So wrong it was absolutely right.

j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:48 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I like the bit where he has the white opera singer sing his thoughts, which would be unpalatable if he, as a black man, said aloud.

Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The "diarrhea" thing was in response to critics taking DC to task for his juvenile, uncouth humor - obviously, he decided to take it to the next level.

Favorite Chappelle Show Moment Not Yet Mentioned: DC taking sick little Billy to school in PlayStation basketball. "KAKAKAKAKAKA! IN YOUR FACE BILLY!!!!! IN YOUR FACE!!!!" "NURSE! COME QUICK! BILLY'S GETTING HIS ASS KICKED!"

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 19:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

OH MY GOD THAT BIT WAS AWESOME.

"OF COURSE I HAVE PLAYSTATION. I'M RICH!"

ModJ (ModJ), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 20:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Eh. His standup is great, Half-Baked is great, but I think the show is lame.

NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 20:31 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

the album is almost as good as mitch hedberg's new one "mitch all together"

Pablo Cruise (chaki), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 21:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

ah!
must get! both!

Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 21:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

nobody's mentioned his imitation of the WB frog yet - "welcome back, niggers!"

Tyrone Biggums is the grebtest! "Is this the 7 o'clock free crack giveaway?"

Adrian (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 21:43 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

he's on TRL right now

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"hey justin timberlake! remember me? Star Search 1992!"

Huggy Dork (Kingfish), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"no more fried rice, now fried chicken!"

"konichiwa, bitches!"

Huggy Dork (Kingfish), Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

oh man, best episode ever.

"Hey, there's a boat with a buncha white people on it. I'm gonna go see what they want."

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I've enjoyed what I've seen of Chappelle's show, though I find it a bit strange that Undercover Brother has as many fans as it has. All of its observations, stereotypes about blacks and whites were pretty staid as far as zeitgeist; like it was written before hip hop culture became universal.

theodore fogelsanger, Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

also jordan otm

k3vin k., Friday, 5 January 2018 22:51 (two weeks ago) Permalink

the other issue was that there were just not that many funny moments!

k3vin k., Friday, 5 January 2018 22:51 (two weeks ago) Permalink

this shit is so tiresome. don't you get tired of it? it's tiresome

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 5 January 2018 22:54 (two weeks ago) Permalink

yeah jord otm, dave doesn’t seem to be wrestling with the issue or coming to terms so much as just mining his own ignorance for comedy

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 5 January 2018 22:55 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I imagine that Dave Chappelle, having collected so much data by now, has a very good idea of what will make most people laugh. And his audience is "most people." So I doubt that everything he says on stage reflects his full range of thinking or even his best thinking on a topic. What comes out on stage is probably more like an image of "most people" passed through a Dave Chappelle filter. and if he puts too much of himself in it, he'll no longer be a comedian for "most people." Ideally, he tries to give them a world view they can subscribe to that is at least slightly better than the current mean with confidence that those above the mean are smart enough not to regress. that will require recognizing some limitations of the medium.

Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 5 January 2018 22:56 (two weeks ago) Permalink

oh well we must force him to wrestle with the issue or he gets no dessert, straight to bed for him

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 5 January 2018 22:57 (two weeks ago) Permalink

it's definitely true that the current climate makes things harder on comedians: the low-lying fruit, the jokes that wrote themselves about easy targets, now seem to require a lot more care. but that is a problem for comedians to solve, not for audiences to accommodate

k3vin k., Friday, 5 January 2018 22:59 (two weeks ago) Permalink

anyway I doubt chappelle cares that much, he seems like a pretty miserable person and is very rich! and if these two specials indicate anything he is pretty happy at this stage in his career to collect his checks

k3vin k., Friday, 5 January 2018 23:00 (two weeks ago) Permalink

that whole post checks out

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 5 January 2018 23:01 (two weeks ago) Permalink

oh well we must force him to wrestle with the issue or he gets no dessert, straight to bed for him

― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, January 5, 2018 4:57 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

speaking of tiresome

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 January 2018 23:01 (two weeks ago) Permalink

what a horrible person he does things for money

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 5 January 2018 23:01 (two weeks ago) Permalink

he usually brings up how rich he is in the context of intersectionality!

Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 5 January 2018 23:04 (two weeks ago) Permalink

god I sure hope I'm tiresome to you sanctimonious fucks

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 5 January 2018 23:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

oh well we must force him to wrestle with the issue or he gets no dessert, straight to bed for him

― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, January 5, 2018 5:57 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark

nobody is forcing or even asking dave chappelle to wrestle with trans issues? it's his choice, and he's getting paid an insane amount of money to do so. your expectations for both him and yourself seem pretty low honestly.

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 23:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

actually on the contrary i would prefer to turn on a dave chappelle special and not hear him wrestle with trans stuff. but if he's going to then...

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 23:08 (two weeks ago) Permalink

actually on the contrary i would prefer to turn on a dave chappelle special and not hear him wrestle with trans stuff. but if he's going to then...

― J0rdan S., Friday, January 5, 2018 3:08 PM (six seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah basically this exactly where I'm coming from. his trans bits in the last round of netflix specials were just really 4chan or someone's racist uncle at the xmas dinner table level stuff: dead-naming, using the slur trannies repeatedly - and then when trying to be less offensive for a second or two saying "transgendered" (which is also incorrect which chapelle would know if he gave two shits) - and talking about dicks etc. it's not funny, it's not thoughtful, and it's bigoted. i hope this shit is going age horrendously and the next generations will look back and think "woah early 21st century people were into some really offensive shit" but, i dunno, that's probably too optimistic

khat person (jim in vancouver), Friday, 5 January 2018 23:13 (two weeks ago) Permalink

comedians tend to want things both ways (i think CK and Stewart were super bad about this) it's like they love being treated as big important artists -- Chapelle's Block Party was completely designed to cast him as a cultural icon -- and little philosophers, but then when people push back it's like "Hey hey hey I'm just a comedian don't listen to me I'm just jokin' around!" (in fairness I'm probably projecting some of my ire at Stewart on to Chapelle here but I think it's true of both)

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 January 2018 23:23 (two weeks ago) Permalink

xp yeah, but his reaction to that belongs in an apology (which is where he put it) and not next year's special. as a reaction, he could have transformed into mike birbiglia. but the people who like mike birbiglia already have mike birbiglia, and he will leave some of his audience behind by becoming mike birbiglia. you could take the negative view that he doesn't want to lose that audience because he wants there money. you could take a more optimistic view that he loves that audience, is loyal to them, and wants to bring them along as his thinking evolves.

Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 5 January 2018 23:28 (two weeks ago) Permalink

*their money obv

Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 5 January 2018 23:28 (two weeks ago) Permalink

actually on the contrary i would prefer to turn on a dave chappelle special and not hear him wrestle with trans stuff. but if he's going to then...

― J0rdan S., Friday, January 5, 2018 6:08 PM (thirty-eight minutes ago)

this!!!

k3vin k., Friday, 5 January 2018 23:48 (two weeks ago) Permalink

xp yeah, but his reaction to that belongs in an apology (which is where he put it) and not next year's special. as a reaction, he could have transformed into mike birbiglia. but the people who like mike birbiglia already have mike birbiglia, and he will leave some of his audience behind by becoming mike birbiglia. you could take the negative view that he doesn't want to lose that audience because he wants there money. you could take a more optimistic view that he loves that audience, is loyal to them, and wants to bring them along as his thinking evolves.

― Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, January 5, 2018 3:28 PM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

chapelle was never a particularly offensive or transgressive comedian before this comeback iirc and there's a large distance between being grossly transphobic and being a milquetoast bore like birbiglia.

khat person (jim in vancouver), Friday, 5 January 2018 23:48 (two weeks ago) Permalink

yeah it’s not exactly stay in yr lane but maybe just don’t shit on a whole section of the population just to make hay out of how you don’t “get” them

unless you are making fun of how dumb you are for even bringing it up idk

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 January 2018 00:06 (one week ago) Permalink

In my friend group if someone says, like, "cis," there are some major blank looks. They look to guys like Chappelle and Norm MacDonald -- or Bill Maher or Joe Rogan, etc. -- to weigh in: Is this just political correctness run amok, taken to an absurd extreme, or is it a worthwhile idea to differentiate between the sex you're born with and the gender you express? They don't know a trans person irl. And when Chappelle says that the answer is that trans people are gross and that it's appropriate to make fun of them, that a trans woman is just a confused guy, that Caitlyn is inherently Bruce, that these issues are a bit silly, it has a pretty major effect on a lot of people and their thinking. It's irrelevant that it's coming from a comedian. Coming from a respected public figure the idea has incredible currency.

And when it's coming from Nick Di Paolo I think, "This is basically what this guy has always been preaching" and I roll my eyes. But with Chappelle it feels like his heart has shrunk a little bit, that the guy who wanted to throw the block party doesn't necessarily want everyone to come anymore.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Saturday, 6 January 2018 00:23 (one week ago) Permalink

^^^ ding ding ding

this exactly

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 January 2018 00:27 (one week ago) Permalink

yep

good to remember not to project our values onto the people we admire

k3vin k., Saturday, 6 January 2018 00:29 (one week ago) Permalink

did you just yep your ding ding?

Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 6 January 2018 00:33 (one week ago) Permalink

good post polyphonic

also i dunno aside from those concerns, like transphobic stuff like caitlyn jenner shit just seems so lame and old fashioned like some fuckin hacky jay leno monologue from 1998 or some shit, like just beneath someone of chapelle's talents

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 6 January 2018 01:00 (one week ago) Permalink

I somehow thought k3vin wrote polyphonic's post

Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 6 January 2018 01:25 (one week ago) Permalink

yeah I was wondering how to respond to that, haha. all good

k3vin k., Saturday, 6 January 2018 01:31 (one week ago) Permalink

how can anyone even think about anything he's saying when his jacket choices continue to be so weirdly ill-fitting

the guy cannot not wear weird clothes

del griffith, Saturday, 6 January 2018 01:50 (one week ago) Permalink

i just kept staring at the e-cig and the real cigs in both specials. it's all i could look at. it makes me nervous when people hold cigarettes and don't smoke them for some reason. and when people just hold an unlit cigarette and take four years to light it while they're talking. but that's just me. and, yeah, that big C jacket was lame.

scott seward, Saturday, 6 January 2018 15:55 (one week ago) Permalink

not sure i understood exactly how his pimp parable at the end of Bird Rev pertains to him or the audience or comedy central(?) or hollywood or anything really

― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, January 5, 2018 1:31 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I took it to imply that capitalism will wring every bit of humanity out of you, so he got out while he could

I thought the new ones were mostly bad, especially the second one which didn’t have any laughs and was basically appalling. he tries to houdini his way out of some pretty ugly setups, and to his credit it almost works a couple of times, but what he has to offer is not really worth an hour’s time in 2018. he’s a sad old man

― k3vin k., Friday, January 5, 2018 3:49 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i disagree. i took it as him saying he was the bottom to the coldblooded culture industry's pimp -- a powerful explanation for why he quit his show

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 6 January 2018 15:58 (one week ago) Permalink

yeah i considered both of those but still wasn't really sure

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Saturday, 6 January 2018 16:03 (one week ago) Permalink

briefly considered that maybe he even meant he's Iceberg and the audience is the bottom but tbh i was pretty high when i watched it

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Saturday, 6 January 2018 16:05 (one week ago) Permalink

the first one is pretty good overall
the second one is really...off... like borderline not even a comedy special

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 6 January 2018 22:59 (one week ago) Permalink

I fell asleep during the third one 3 nights in a row. Think I have 4 minutes left. Might not finish it cos it wasn’t v funny. Think Between the 4 new specials there’s prob like 45 mins worth of p good material

Spottie, Saturday, 6 January 2018 23:15 (one week ago) Permalink

i watched both of these and... yeah... he says some rough stuff. now i'm not gonna be surprised if people get upset at the new stuff. it seems like he is pretty critical of the #metoo movement and at times more than a little cruel towards victims imo. but i still think he has the right to say what is on his mind and to expect otherwise seems counterproductive. there shouldn't be an expectation for him to suddenly discard a life's worth of behaviors and socially ingrained belief systems and become an expert in this one ideology. there is value in letting an old fart say what is on his mind and have people publicly say "We don't care if you were a hero you can't get away w that and here is why"

he is from an older era and is using these older reference points. like that Pimp book seems like a very 70's civil rights, something that will immediately trigger a modern audience. i don't think this is intentional and this is just a book he was aware of through his older cultural touchstones and thought was relevant. cos he saw the Weinstein stuff as the same thing these pimps were doing. the pimp had used the money to pay off all of the enablers that helped him break this already broken woman. all the money that was only being made due to the hard work of the exploited woman. Hollywood is pimps seems to be what he is saying.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 6 January 2018 23:52 (one week ago) Permalink

xpost yeah he also just seems really... lazy and disengaged a lot of times like the final one there are so many times when he just seems to be rambling only sort of making semi gestures towards actual jokes or bits

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 7 January 2018 03:01 (one week ago) Permalink

Yah v half-baked, if you will.

Spottie, Sunday, 7 January 2018 04:22 (one week ago) Permalink

OK, I watched the second/fourth one and, like, I can understand some measure of disappointment that this, like, FOUR FUCKING HOURS of comedy specials released in the span of a single year aren't put together like the C.K./Oswalt model of "this is my hottest hour of material that I've workshopped and finessed on the road for a year," but like I don't see why its so hard to adjust your expectations for a little rambling/free-form from the most naturally hilarious guy on the planet in a world where the Onion A/V Club is like pressuring people to listen to 18 hours of fucking Earwolf comedy podcasts. Even when he's just, like, telling the plot of the Iceberg Slim book for 10 minutes or whatever, he's a transfixing speaker and hilarious guy, even if he's not doing a standard "set"

idk, like, I obviously would never ever ever fault or question someone for saying that Chappelle's trans/rape/gay material upsets their moral compass to the point where they don't want to listen to the guy.

But I really don't understand the upper mississippi/Spottie/Neaderthal criticism that these specials aren't "funny." Like if Dave Chappelle isn't funny, I would love to know what recent comedy things they think is funny.

mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 8 January 2018 17:45 (one week ago) Permalink

how many times did you laugh during the second new special? I can't remember laughing at anything actually original, i.e. something other than "haha, this white guy knows what a bottom b---- is"

k3vin k., Monday, 8 January 2018 18:00 (one week ago) Permalink

please write down a number that you think would be an appropriate cutoff for deciding whether or not Dave Chappelle's new special was funny and mail it to a mod before I reveal how many times I laughed. all done? ok. I laughed 1 million times.

Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 8 January 2018 18:07 (one week ago) Permalink

god I sure hope I'm tiresome to you sanctimonious fucks

― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 5 January 2018 23:07 (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

<3

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Monday, 8 January 2018 18:48 (one week ago) Permalink

in a world where the Onion A/V Club is like pressuring people to listen to 18 hours of fucking Earwolf comedy podcasts.

i have no idea what any of this means i don't listen to comedy podcast i've listened to like maybe 10 maron episodes and half weren't comedians

i dunno, i thought that the comedy special "nice lady" by michelle wolf on HBO was very funny, that's one recent one that i watched. i thought it was better than any of these dave chapelle shows. but i'm not dr. comedy, md.

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 January 2018 19:36 (one week ago) Permalink

i liked ali wong baby cobra and mike birbiglia thank god for jokes too, i liked those as much or more than the chappelle ones

i just kinda watch random ones on netflix or hbo

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 January 2018 19:38 (one week ago) Permalink

i liked (the poorly-named) "Kevin Hart Presents Keith Robinson: Back of the Bus Funny"

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 8 January 2018 21:01 (one week ago) Permalink

wouldn't you have a normal last name and just a doctorate in comedy instead of medicine?

Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 8 January 2018 21:27 (one week ago) Permalink

laughter is the best medicine

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 01:44 (one week ago) Permalink

^ otm

kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 01:46 (one week ago) Permalink

would photoshop* a prescription for Chappelle but i don't do that anymore

*edit in powerpoint

Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 03:03 (one week ago) Permalink


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