Why is it that women prefer men not to wear socks whilst having sex?

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Or are there some women out there that fetishisise over such pedo-apparel?

― Charles Hatcher (musenheddo), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

because it doesn't look very sexy, i don't think. others must surely agree.

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

probably because you look like a fucking twit when wearing them.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

You usually don't wear anything else then, why would you want to wear socks? Besides, toes are lovely.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

So they can't run away at the end!

― the river fleet, Friday, 23 January 2004 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Charles! *raises eyebrow*

― @lex K (Alex K), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Because the socks have been on men's feet, and sorry but you guys' feet smell worse than women's feet. One has to assume he's been wearing those things all day so the socks will either be sweaty or stinky. Often both.

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Because the socks have been on men's feet, and sorry but you guys' feet smell worse than women's feet.

Really? What kind of a biological fact is behind this?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

pH factor. Haven't you ever seen a Secret advert?

― the river fleet, Friday, 23 January 2004 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

It cuts both ways! I have circulation problems and often wear my socks in bed, whether having sex or not. Sorry. Matt obviously tries to dissuade me and I am willing to be cold for his sake, but only sometimes.

Actually I would probably wear gloves as well if I could haha.

― Archel (Archel), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Men have a different pH factor than women? Shocking!

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

i sleep in my socks. can't sleep without socks. so often they don't get taken off during sex. if i notice it, i'll take them off, but several boyfriends have apparently found it kinky and cool.

but for the view alone, naked except for socks isn't the best look. i'm just lazy/cold/ticklish feet owning.

― colette (a2lette), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

The thing that amused me about the Secret ads. (Was it Secret? It was some deoderant, "strong enough for a man, but made for a woman!") It went on and on about how womens' persiration had a higher pH, and therefore needed a stronger antipersperant.

Ignoring the science, which says that water (neutral) has a pH of 7, and acids head down towards 1 - therefore that if a woman's pH is higher, it is LESS ACIDIC than mens.

(or is it Basic rather than Acidic? I'm pretty sure that it's the Acids that are the low numbers. High school chemistry was a long time ago.)

― the river fleet, Friday, 23 January 2004 14:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Erm, socks ppl!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, it's scientific evidence that mens' sweat is chemically different, and that mens' socks smell worse. They absolutely do! I can go two days without changing my socks at a pinch (touring especially you have to do this) and not get noticably smelly, while Joe sometimes has to change his socks twice a day!

― the river fleet, Friday, 23 January 2004 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

(I'm sorry for bringing Science into this nice, pure thread. Maybe it would have been better if I'd said "It says in the Book of Leviticus: 'Blessed be those men with a high pH who change their socks at morning and at night except on the high holy sabbath day when they must soak their feet in the tears of a virgin while saying three Hail Mary's and a Lords Prayer.'")

;-)

― the river fleet, Friday, 23 January 2004 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Um, cosmetics ads aren't the best place to get scientific knowledge, and your own personal case doesn't prove this is the objective truth.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, I read it in National Geographic as well. Which makes it proper science. So there.

― the river fleet, Friday, 23 January 2004 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

If men have a lower pH number than women, how does this affect smell. Acidic isn't synonymous with smelly.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Tuomas, go to the laboratory and get a bottle of water, a bottle of vinegar, and a bottle of sulphuric acid. Smell them all and come back to me.

― the river fleet, Friday, 23 January 2004 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Acid smells bad!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Not all acids smell, do they? Orange juice doesn't smell any more than vinegar.

By the way, "River Fleet", are you Kate?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

according to 'the magic of sex', 'Personal characteristics favoured (by women) include a clean body, well-cared-for hands, and clean feet and socks.'

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/content_objectid=13832698_method=full_siteid=50143_headline=-THE-MAGIC-OF-SEX-name_page.html

one of the only decent results i got for a google search of 'men feet smell more'

― colette (a2lette), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Women wearing socks in whilst having sex = classic.

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)

yay!

― colette (a2lette), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Orange juice smells more than water! And more than milk, which is slightly Basic! (Unless it's sour.) Milk goes sour and starts to smell because of the actions of micro-organisms, which produce acids. These are similar micro-organisms that eat toejam and cause acid production which makes mens feet smelly.

― the river fleet, Friday, 23 January 2004 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

it's kind of cool though when you keep your top half clothes on.

― paulhw (paulhw), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha it is "against the rules" to wear socks in bed apparently, I had no idea prior to July.

Tuomas, it is a pretty accepted fact that, in general, men sweat more than women. This isn't necessarily true for everyone in the world but as a generalization it's considered true. This will affect smell greatly.

― Allyzay, Friday, 23 January 2004 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Tuomas, what's your point? Your feet still get sweaty and smelly in the bits which don't get aired, so even in a cold climate your feet (and arse, and armpits, etc. etc.) will get deeply unpleasant. Maybe body odour is another of the things beloved by those quirky Scandinavians. I don't go for it, myself.

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

mark is otm!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

probably because you look like a fucking twit when wearing them.
So why don't you look like a fucking twit when you don't uh fuck. Now I think it has to do with boringness, coming across as anything but wild. You look like a ... uh... I can't find the right word... *civilized* and does anyone want to be that when fucking. HELL NO! This reminds me of the 1920 porn postcard I have: the guy with a HUGE erection is wearing socks and slippaz!.

― nathalie (nathalie), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not a body odour fetishist, I just wanted to hear the scientific basis for your claims, and now I have, apparently. Admittedly, I think sweat can be nice at times, but not foot sweat.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

The smell of 'fresh' sweat itself is not unpleasant, but stale sweat is.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Spot on.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Pink OTM.

I love feet, BTW. Sometimes I worry about developing a foot fetish. But not if they smell.

― the river fleet, Friday, 23 January 2004 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't like feet at all.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Tuomas, sweat gets stales when you don't change your pants for two days. I'm sorry to break it to you.

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Human skin (both male and female) is mildly acidic, as is sweat, ie pH lower that 7 (4.5 rings a bell for women, a peasy 4.2 for men, some difference!). Soaps and detergents usually have pH over 7 being alkaline, which if used on the skin neutralises said sweat But also removes the acid mantle of the skin which is where all them ntrients hang out (the whole skin drying you out thing). A more basic/alkaline soap is actually better against body odour as it neutralises sait stinky acid mantle, but is worse for the skin in general. You pays your money.

― Pete (Pete), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I think tummies are the the best. Especially round tummies, flat ones aren't that cool.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 23 January 2004 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

suzy reminds me of saddam, on this thread.

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 23 January 2004 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)

What?

Suzy was in my dream last night, too. Oh, the trauma. ;-)

― the river fleet, Friday, 23 January 2004 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)

i like my feet, i think they are one of my better attributes

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 23 January 2004 16:33 (twenty-two years ago)

"It's preferable to bathe twice a day, but at least once a day," says the Iraqi president, sporting a white hat. He reportedly has a different hat for every occasion, including some that are bulletproof.

"When a man bathes once a day, a woman should bathe twice a day, because the female is more delicate than the male and the female smell is more distinctive."

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 23 January 2004 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

That is just a blatant attempt to come on to me and you know it, Stevem!

Post more pictures of your hair. ;-)

― the river fleet, Friday, 23 January 2004 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I am positive that I look very doofy when only wearing socks. It's cute when my girlfriend does it though.

Sometimes, however, it's just too cold, and better to wear socks than to have ice cube feet.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 January 2004 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

But... Suzy is saying the opposite of what Saddam is saying!

― the river fleet, Friday, 23 January 2004 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Men should just change their shoes more often. By 'change' I mean 'have more than one operational pair instead of running that pair into the ground before shoe-shopping again'.

Kate, I'm sure RJG was just trying to be, y'know, obtuse or controversial.

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 23 January 2004 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Men should just change their shoes more often. By 'change' I mean 'have more than one operational pair instead of running that pair into the ground
before shoe-shopping again'.

This is a strange concept, this more than one pair of shoes business.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 January 2004 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

BWAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!!! Suzy OTM in that first paragraph.

― the river fleet, Friday, 23 January 2004 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Why, do new shoes not make your feet smelly?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 January 2004 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)

It is the airing of the feet while you are changing them, and also the airing out of the shoes so that the odour producing bacteria do not get ground into the shoe by the overwearing thereof!

― the river fleet, Friday, 23 January 2004 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

It is generally accepted that the not uncommon male practice of wearing the same shoes day-in day-out do not give the uppers enough time to completely dry out after wearing, thus creating a micro-climate of SMELL in the shoe. Even two pairs, alternated, dramatically reduce the liklihood of foot stink.

As for trousers....

― Pete (Pete), Friday, 23 January 2004 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned Raggett - no shoes, no sideburns, NO FUTURE.

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 23 January 2004 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Popular opinion seems to be predominantly to do with the odour issue -- what about the aesthetics?

Freshly-washed football socks?...

http://www.sanderssports.co.uk/ecommerce/ctg176.jpg

Crisp, clean knee-lengths?...

http://www.sibylelastic.it/img/133.jpg

Fragrantly-tumble-dried "secret socks," perhaps?...

http://kaysnet.com/assets/Agency/M/K/K8503aks04.JPG

― Charles Hatcher (musenheddo), Friday, 23 January 2004 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)

The only thing worse than a naked man with socks is a naked man with pulled up socks. It makes me think of pantsless men in 1950s movies.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 23 January 2004 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)

wearing socks is dud because it's not as nice when you HOLD FEET (like holding hands with gloves - I think it's better without them personally)

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 23 January 2004 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

What if the sock is on the cock&balls?

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 23 January 2004 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe you'll get her to tickle your frusciante

― Chris V (Chris V), Friday, 23 January 2004 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

ha ha better to have a frusciante than a flea

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 23 January 2004 17:37 (twenty-two years ago)

or a kiedis for that matter.

― Chris V (Chris V), Friday, 23 January 2004 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Men should just change their shoes more often. By 'change' I mean 'have more than one operational pair instead of running that pair into the ground before shoe-shopping again'.

i have 5 'operational' pairs of shoes!!!

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 23 January 2004 22:14 (twenty-two years ago)

but yeh tht is largely true suzy : /

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 23 January 2004 22:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Men should just change their shoes more often. By 'change' I mean 'have more than one operational pair instead of running that pair into the ground before shoe-shopping again'.

Damn, Suzy!!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 23 January 2004 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree but its tough to find size 14 shoes. So cram it biatch.

― dean! (deangulberry), Friday, 23 January 2004 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I only wear my Rolex and my Nike cross-trainers.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 23 January 2004 22:49 (twenty-two years ago)

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 23 January 2004 22:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm trying to do a Patrick Bateman close tag...

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 23 January 2004 22:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I have a ridiculous thing about this, because "never let a girl see you wearing just socks" is one of the only two pieces of advice my Dad has ever given me (and I cannot remember the other!). Slavish followance of this has occasionally led to me being mocked by partners, etc...

(Girls in just socks = hottt)

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Saturday, 24 January 2004 00:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Is that the best your father could do?

― R the bunged up with jollop of V (Jake Proudlock), Saturday, 24 January 2004 01:30 (twenty-two years ago)

My boyfriend has solved this dilemma by buying two pairs of identical shoes and alternating them.

― the river fleet, Saturday, 24 January 2004 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

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