yes, as a Tottenham fan who sometimes works late I consider ITV4+1 a key channel.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 16:54 (ten years ago) link
I want +1s and +2s for every channel coz I forget everything and coz I want to watch prime time after the kids are in bed and coz I've only got 80 hours on my V+ box and it's full of things I won't get round to watching.
― every time you sneer at "white boys with guitars" a Ramone dies (onimo), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 16:54 (ten years ago) link
i don't mind using what i assume is cheap and plentiful capacity for the +1 channels cos sometimes they have a use - it's a weird niche use, sure, but like i assume many people i still have a download limit with my ISP that prohibits a move to all-streaming all-the-time just yet
― landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 16:54 (ten years ago) link
and there are also people like me who don't have that thing or a V+ box, just a TV
(I have this computer but I don't watch TV on it, assuming I could)
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 16:56 (ten years ago) link
ilx shows its age.
― tsrobodo, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:01 (ten years ago) link
so the bbc channels will go 1, 2, 4 with a gap? annoying. it's bad enough that there's nothing on freeview channel 8.
― koogs, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:02 (ten years ago) link
lol i have Estuary, Grimsby's Number 1 TV station on Channel 8
― landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:03 (ten years ago) link
I noticed a new channel 'coming soon' on 8.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:04 (ten years ago) link
http://www.estuary.tv/
― landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:04 (ten years ago) link
whether 8 is gonna be assigned to various regional channels like this i don't know
yeah its a slot for some local thing. yay freeview.
as a fan of awfulness even i struggle to watch more than 2 or 3 mins at a time
― landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:05 (ten years ago) link
so the bbc channels will go 1, 2, 4 with a gap?
Argh, nooooo. If there is no other reason to save BBC3, this is good enough. IT WILL DRIVE ME MAD.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:06 (ten years ago) link
Going out on a limb here but I'm guessing that BBC3 isn't really aiming for people like the Pinefox.
The assumption that every young person has a computer/easy access to somewhere to watch online is probably more damaging, it's discriminatory to everyone who can't afford one for one thing.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:07 (ten years ago) link
But PF likes TWO BROKE GIRLS! It may not be aiming, but he is open to it!
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 17:09 (ten years ago) link
BBC3 was less terrible than it sold itself as, in some ways. I ended up catching ten minutes of Reggie Yates' Extreme South Africa, which sounds like the worst thing imaginable, but it seemed like a pretty thoughtful look at poverty, violence and racism. The tabloid documentaries that they did also seem several cuts above Channel 5 and arguably 4 based on my limited exposure. The topics and framing of their factual shows probably put a lot of viewers off giving them a chance and the failure to go full Gypsy Wedding / Extreme Couponing might have cost them from the other side.
― Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:14 (ten years ago) link
Was Pulling on bbc3? It made it look awful when actually it was brilliant.
― kinder, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 18:56 (ten years ago) link
A lot of the uproar seems less about BBC Three as it is and more about some magical BBC Three that commentators would like to exist.
BBC Three comedy for instance is consistently terrible, the only bright spots in my memory being People Just Do Nothing (comprising one episode) and Ja'ime - Private School Girl (bought from Australia). The "development hell" that turns promising series into shit is legendary there; producers know their vision will be unrecognisable once it comes out the other end. Which is why they approach Sky these days instead. As for "oh noes, there isn't any other BBC channel commissioning comedy", well, they will do once BBC Three goes!
There is a case for a more Newsbeat-y channel but BBC One basically is that already, surely!
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 20:04 (ten years ago) link
Like, the Reggie Yates SA doc really SHOULD be on BBC One. And Family Guy should NOT. Win-win?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 20:05 (ten years ago) link
But which BBC channel will show a doc where a teenage girl has a visible wee in the middle of a music festival field?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 20:39 (ten years ago) link
Parliament?
― Prostitute Farm Online (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 23:07 (ten years ago) link
This is the first time in the BBC's history that we are proposing to close a television channel. I can’t rule out it being the last change to our programmes or services. It will save the BBC over £50 million a year. £30 million of that will go into drama on BBC One. And it also means we will extend Children's programmes by an hour a night and provide a BBC One +1 channel. I must stress - all of this is what we are proposing to the BBC Trust. They will have the final say.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:09 (ten years ago) link
Tracer Hand, do you work for the BBC?
― the pinefox, Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:12 (ten years ago) link
Not going to answer on the grounds it may incriminate me
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:24 (ten years ago) link
Pinefox, that was a quote, by the way! Not my own writing!
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:25 (ten years ago) link
does this mean I can expect to notice a pronounced upswing in bbc one drama
― conrad, Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:29 (ten years ago) link
I guess?
As a parent I'm a bit concerned that kids will now start demanding to watch TV until 8pm instead of the much more sensible 7pm. I always thought the cut-off was due to bedtimes rather than a lack of funds.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:39 (ten years ago) link
i wdn't hold my breath
― landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:40 (ten years ago) link
This is the first time in the BBC's history that we are proposing to close a television channel. I can’t rule out it being the last change to our programmes or services.
this reads a little bit like "oh we hadn't noticed any dramatic changes in the production and reception of TV in the last 5 years"
― landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:41 (ten years ago) link
Surely they should've put some of that money into making comedy?
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:47 (ten years ago) link
or something funny at least
― conrad, Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:49 (ten years ago) link
why start now?
― landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:49 (ten years ago) link
Why Not?
― Mark G, Thursday, 6 March 2014 13:07 (ten years ago) link
Like, the Reggie Yates SA doc really SHOULD be on BBC One.
This is the point really, if the programmes are good enough they can go on BBC1 or BBC2, perhaps they could find some room by maybe dropping one of their 5000 antiques shows / property shows / cooking shows / progammes about benefits scroungers or whatever. BBC4 meanwhile is a repository for exactly the sort of programmes that used to be shown on BBC2 but have since been replaced by 5000 antiques shows / property shows /cooking shows / progammes about benefits scroungers or whatever.
― Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 March 2014 15:41 (ten years ago) link
As a political comedy show that dares to challenge authority, my TV show, The Revolution Will Be Televised, would never have been successful without BBC 3 giving me a platform. Now the BBC are looking to shut the channel down. We can’t let this happen to the only channel that nurtures challenging, cutting edge British comedy.
BBC 3 is the birthplace of comedy careers like Jack Whitehall, Russell Howard, David Walliams and Matt Lucas. It is the platform for voices that aren’t being heard, that go against the grain and don’t fit in with the status quo. That’s why Jono started his petition to save BBC3, because as a fan he knows that platforms like this are sacred. And that’s why me and other comedians like Jack Whitehall, Rick Edwards and Russell Kane have signed.
― Animal Bitrate (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 6 March 2014 19:24 (ten years ago) link
^ best argument for abolition of BBC3 lol amirite
― ailsa, Thursday, 6 March 2014 19:34 (ten years ago) link
matt lucas started out on bbc2 right?
― eardrum buzz aldrin (NickB), Thursday, 6 March 2014 19:55 (ten years ago) link
pls to abolish bbc2 also
― Prostitute Farm Online (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 6 March 2014 20:26 (ten years ago) link
4 channels and they couldn't even find room for Limmy. Fuck 'em imo
― Number None, Thursday, 6 March 2014 20:44 (ten years ago) link
I like some the trashy documentary series on BBC3. Whenever I watch "Sun Sex & Suspicious Parents" it just puts me in the mood for a night out.
I am still bewildered by "Snog Marry Avoid" though - why are we all pretending that it's a robot, a talking robot, giving a makeover?
― boxedjoy, Thursday, 6 March 2014 20:58 (ten years ago) link
dog borstal
― koogs, Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:06 (ten years ago) link
Think lucas started on paramount comedy channel rip gawd bless ya
― sktsh, Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:09 (ten years ago) link
lucas drummer for vic reeves
― CSI BONO (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:17 (ten years ago) link
would imagine that russell howard's talent would have brought him right to the top no matter the route taken tbf
― CSI BONO (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:18 (ten years ago) link
DOG BORSTAL
― conrad, Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:56 (ten years ago) link
But we're talking about a demographic that will, by and large, happily shift online with the channel anyway.
75% of 16- to 24-year-olds' TV viewing is still of live broadcast, though.
― Alba, Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:50 (ten years ago) link
dog borstal was fucking awesome
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:52 (ten years ago) link
xp
75% of not much is not much, though
― landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:20 (ten years ago) link
the name 'dog borstal' just used to tickle me. would always use it as an excuse for not being somewhere - 'gotta go, dog borstal's on in 15 minutes'...
house of tiny tearaways I remember being good. that, mighty boosh, being human and pramface are probably the only things I ever watched on bbc3
― koogs, Friday, 7 March 2014 02:08 (ten years ago) link
BBC Three comedy for instance is consistently terrible, the only bright spots in my memory being People Just Do Nothing (comprising one episode) and Ja'ime - Private School Girl (bought from Australia).
Comedy obviously most specific thing ever taste-wise (I can't stand those ultra-broad Chris Lilley shows, say, which seem weirdly racist to me), but I feel like there are enough innovative spots in the long list of shows they commissioned to make 'consistently terrible' not true: Nighty Night, High Spirits, 15 Storeys High, Mighty Boosh, Snuff Box, Pulling...
― Walter Galt, Friday, 7 March 2014 07:52 (ten years ago) link