The BBC

Thanks for sharing the link to the archive, koogs - is there any way of seeing what's been put up there without having to scroll through pages of everything in alphabetical order?

i find the A-Z (of an individual category) on the TV app marginally more wieldy but i don't know beyond that

Problem with that is "Archive" is a category (unless there's something I'm not seeing) (which would not be unusual).

some of the categories are subdivided, but it's not obvious

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/group/p025z4rn - abstract art

pick an episode of something you like and on the page for that programme there *might* be a sub-category at the bottom, by the credits link

there certainly used to be a plainer page with all the categories on it as a list but, er, progress...

better link - https://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/collections

Hadn't seen those pages before but the iPlayer Collections are good too - loved working chronologically through the series on London (albeit all picked by Simon Jenkins so you have to look at his hi-res face before each prog): https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/group/p00synd3?page=1

> Hadn't seen those pages before but the iPlayer Collections are good too

those archive/collections are the same thing, i think, they keep reorging / renaming / redesigning the pages. the iplayer pages also seem to have added what i'd call 'box sets' to the mix, more recent stuff made available again, not exactly 'archive'

finding anything on any streaming service always seems like a crapshoot to me, especially when using a tv-remote to navigate.

Thanks Koogs- that is better (though like you I would still like a list I could slice how I wanted... I blame Netflix). Now I’m hoping they can slap up the other 20-odd BBC things dear old Nairn did, which I thought was what the tweet up thread was promising.

Going to watch the pop art thing later, looks interesting.

nairn’s Football Towns and Orient Express are both on youtube.

when i’m out and about not so much these days i sometimes practice a bit of a nairn slopey/arhyrmic walk. it genuinely does seem to help appreciate spaces around me in a contemplative fashion tho suspect some of this is because it’s slower than my habitual too-fast-paced gait and also it seems to cant your head slightly upwards and away from the immediate direction in front of you.

Nairn hates Huddersfield so much and with so much focus you'd almost be tempted to think he grew up there and I don't think he was really impressed with the mushroom columns of the Queensgate indoor market! I'm not sure the ugly as fuck Pompidou-lite stylings of Halifax Building Society building aged that well either tbh!

I do not understand Fizzles' post about walking differently. It sounds as though he's trying to be like Beckett's Watt.

FOOTBALL TOWNS, this must surely be good.

Football Pools Towns is good but Isle of Rust was the first Meades I ever saw and mb my fav bit of tv

turned on R4 earlier and caught the absolutely awful Lionel Shriver reading from her new novel that nobody will buy just like her previous few novels that nobody bought. Why do the fucking beeb blow so much fucking smoke up this fraudulent nobody's arsehole? Well yeah the answer is ofc because she's a pig-shit ignorant right-wing bigot.

I heard two seconds of that Helen Lewis shit by accident the other night. Privatizing's too good for 'em.

Shriver probably sells quite a lot of novels.

Which Helen Lewis programme? I can't remember.

She doesn't Pinefox, she's a one hit wonder.

Baggy MPs fucking diet book sells more than Shriver

Helen Lewis had a Radio 4 show about why woke snowflakes are terrible and should be shot. Weird number of shows like that on BBC radio lately.

They seem to have a lot of prerecorded Helen Lewis, god help us.

After Shrivers racist appearance on qt last year there was a lot of stuff about her dwindling to nothing book sales on twitter

2 and a quarter hour coronashow today, what the fuck is wrong with these people?

are they still not sending people to do the radio 4 morning show?

Plotting a graph of Lionel Shriver's useless life, I would imagine the line representing book sales, plummeting downwards, at some point intersecting with the line representing calls from BBC producers, going in the opposite direction.

These people think they're still living in the noughties, when everything's all Monkey Dust and Nighty Night and edgy.

Edgy, the worst kind of y

lionel shriver is just some idiot that used to be on newsnight review all the time!

This was new to me, but interesting.

After the sad news that Lionel Shriver was up to her *antics* again, I decided to take a look at the book sales of my 3rd least favourite contrarian author.

And now I have the stats.

Hold me, I'm going in. There will be graphs... pic.twitter.com/iyxIYu2ndn

— Chris McCrudden (@cmccrudden) March 1, 2019

Bit generous describing her stuff as literary fiction.

lol, them be the brutal graphs of Shriver's shrinking relevance in the publishing world I was referring to Pinefox!

bloody great, tonight we've got the intellectual might of Applebaum and Mason discussing da Rona on R4.

Has he invited Rona to come to Athens?

I'm watching Lucy Worsley so the Beeb is forgiven for now.

LMAO. Stoya come to Athens, the means-tested defence of the status quo is happening. pic.twitter.com/93d5aguyQo

— herd immunity for our time (@misslucyp) April 1, 2020

cursed

How Adonis never made it to the last 16 of the world cup I'll never know

fuckin adonis

Very normal retweet from Maitlis

Claire Fox?

Nah keep scrolling... Dave Rich

They’re absolutely not letting up with this:

500,000 people could have died, by August, in the UK if no action was taken

Now it's hoped social distancing will limit deaths to 20,000

But that doesn't mean 480,000 lives are being saved, many people who die from Covid-19 would have died anywayhttps://t.co/hDYKsrCn8B pic.twitter.com/55Dsu3qeLU

— BBC News (UK) (@BBCNews) April 2, 2020

And headlines saying people died "with" coronavirus, not "of" or "from". It's a weird look tbh

I can't remember bbc doing death graphs at the peak of "nothing is done" or herd immunity as they labelled it at the time. All the info was there to see from countries weeks behind us. Just no half decent journalists or editorial leadership. And now they are in the embarrassing position of being bigger fucking tory boot-lickers than both The Mail and the Torygraph. Their politics department needs burning to the ground.

Yeah they would have died anyway, so what https://t.co/FUaCyCLrl8 pic.twitter.com/N6FDD057nx

— Je téléphone à la police (@je_police) April 2, 2020

BBC News 2020, The Day Today 1994 pic.twitter.com/JeSRuuohF1

— Graham (@onalifeglug) April 3, 2020

Unsurprisingly, Boris Johnson's move to intensive care leads all the UK newspapers' front pages.

Have a quick canter through what they're all saying in our paper review, here.

Seems a bit off, given the context.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skK3WoK5Z8A

weirdly good

bah but of course tiktok got there first - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqgBfEqkyaU

Hah, I love that.

BBC adaptation of Sally Rooney's NORMAL PEOPLE.

I'm afraid I haven't yet read the novel.

12 parts, 6 hours -- this is as much as they would give MIDDLEMARCH. Excessive?

It seems like it from 2 episodes, in which little happened. Not much drama, not much at stake, not much interesting said.

The two virtues or points of interest, to my mind:

1: intimate / sex scenes presented with a kind of tender realism

2: the odd tendencies of the heroine - it might be intended as 'autistic' to some degree, I'm unsure - to say very direct things and ask abrupt, literal questions.