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I just had a call with a few girls left in Afghanistan. The rumours spread among them that if they do an interview with the media they will be evacuated to the west. This is what the BBC article caused among women. It's getting worse and worse https://t.co/xU0Fw3U2t1 pic.twitter.com/esd2sRc8tu

— 𝐳𝐞𝐲𝐧𝐚𝐛 (@zainab_Mozafari) March 19, 2023

one of the refugee footballers from Afghanistan, this has got to be one of the scummiest things the bbc has ever done, trusted news organisation my arse. And they do love to fact check other sources of news.

calzino, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 20:45 (one year ago) link

⁦⁦@BBCNews⁩ interviewed Simpay Khalifa, stuck in a hotel near Wooten Bsssett. With great English & a very pleasant personality he'd be a great asset to any employer. On the left is Simpay during the interview. On the right is the photo they chose for the online story. pic.twitter.com/fFVC5E9P37

— Gyll King (@GyllKing) March 20, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 20:46 (one year ago) link

Small beer compared to other stuff but this and hasty exit of Ken Bruce seems to show an organisation which doesn’t value its talent.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2023/mar/22/it-just-feels-a-bit-sad-the-rev-richard-coles-disappointed-at-rushed-bbc-radio-4-exit

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link

excellent visit to the Raven Row exhibition People Make Television last week. of course, you could only scratch the surface of the archive, even with several visits, and only parts of programmes in a relatively short visit of a couple of hours. but it was fascinating – both in its own terms and how it reflected on today's social and video'd world – and delightful – the local presentation of people, places and events, presented such colloquial vernacular things as accents, high streets, interactions, clothes, in ways that you don't see very frequently. the importance of this archive as a historical artefact is significant, I think, and like many such activities at the time they take place probably underestimated at the time.

it was a mixture of BBC Open Door and local cable television - a model that never took off in the way it did in the US. It was interesting to see that these hyperlocal productions had corporate broadcast backing in a bid to drive subscriber numbers; one personally professionally interesting aspect was how business models, mutatis mutandis, stay the same – Disney currently grappling with cost per subscriber platform challenges, or the way cable has been significantly disrupted by FAST (free ad-supported streaming tv) in the States - a model that is unlikely to repeat itself at the same scale in Europe due to the lack of cable.

a few of the things I caught - all of them were enjoyable and interesting, and the importance of the strand/channel of communication for black people, as the exhibition catalogue points out in one of its essays, was significant. where else would they be heard like this?

Black Teachers (16th April, 1973) – a really great view of the effects of racial prejudice in the education system, and how it bends you out of shape as a child and adult, how you have to adapt to it. this incidentally very much a theme of a rewatch of Lynda LaPlante's Prime Suspect the other day as well - a startling rewatch for me, how effectively and brutally it dramatised the scope of men's violence, and male institutional violence towards women, much of it presented as the thinnest of psychological canalising of phsyical violence. i hadn't at all seen as a teenager the highly structured and insightful way LaPlante structured the relationships between the two. Well worth a rewatch, especially in the light of the recent Met report (not that this report in itself will come as a surprise).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhCbdD30az4

It Ain't Half Racist Mum (1st March 1979) - reasonably well known this, I think. With Stuart Hall and Maggie Steed. Well worth viewing again to get a different set of voices from the past effectively analysing the tiresome and asinine media litigation of the notion of impartiality (BBC and otherwise) of today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4oZtBfN87A

A documentary on Balham and Poplar street protest – I can't find online footage or the date or title – with a wide variety of community members (for a zebra crossing in the Balham case). It finished with a round table discussion where a very young woman, who'd helped make the Balham piece, talked very well about how a camera wielded by a community member brought very different responses to one wielded by, say, a BBC news team. A couple of old women watching at the same time started laughing immoderately at this – turned out that one of them was the young woman in question, which was lovely. Another of the round table participants said that the making of the programme had enabled better communication between the residents – he said he was startled by the number of different views, which taken in isolation were rarely belligerent, malignant or unpleasant, but brought together in unmediated ways might come into conflict, and that community television was one way, quite a good one actually, of managing that mediation.

In as highly videoed a time as ours, it's hard to see that it has quite the same mediating magic, that some of the setting-up, the event, the equipment of the broadcasting state or corporation in the hands of the people, brings, but there's plenty to examine below the surface of the comparison I think.

Another snippet I caught, this time of a local Bristol programme, brought a smirk of cynical recognition. An extremely well-spoken young woman was interviewing a v old west country couple (the accents!) about whether they thought women should be allowed to do the same jobs as men, to which the woman, and subsequently her husband kept on saying 'Of course, if they can do it, why not?' Which apparently wasn't the right answer, so the young woman said 'What about bus driver?' (the proximal cause of this interview was women bus drivers in bristol I think) 'If they can drive the bus why should it be a problem?' 'What about train drivers?' 'Sure, why not?' 'What about airline pilots?' (Husband this time): 'If they've been trained to do it, why shouldn't they?' 'But you wouldn't be worried getting in a plane with a lady (I think she said 'lady') pilot?' 'Why should I worry if she can fly it?'. They were very patient with the interviewer imo.

Anyway, great exhibition, there was lots more, and I wish I'd seen a lot more on top of that – hope the entire catalogue is made available somewhere like the BFI.

Fizzles, Saturday, 1 April 2023 08:42 (one year ago) link

booming post, hopefully i'll dig in to this

satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 April 2023 08:57 (one year ago) link

I had wanted to see this but I kept stopping myself because I wasn't sure I wanted to go to a museum to watch TV. Now I'm regretting it. Looks like the exhibition is finished?

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 2 April 2023 08:41 (one year ago) link

yes, finished I'm afraid. and it was really just watching tv in a museum, but it was done about as well as that can be. ofc, the problem is that it's not really possible to watch it all in any curated way anywhere else. i hope that changes.

just to round out an unspoken point:

he said he was startled by the number of different views, which taken in isolation were rarely belligerent, malignant or unpleasant, but brought together in unmediated ways might come into conflict, and that community television was one way, quite a good one actually, of managing that mediation

'but brought together in unmediated ways might come into conflict' and be made belligerent, malignant or unpleasant in the process. this is of course the social media model and it's probably worth considering how the courtesies and rituals of media engagement represented in the broadcast production and distribution models on display at Raven Row, might be reproduced in the IP and social media production and distribution models. it doesn't seem to me entirely *necessary* that the Thiel application of Girard, by which I mean the instigation of the thumbs up model of mimetic sorting of groups, has to be the only way to derive insight and communicative value from social media, though I'm not certain about that. On clickbait measurement I'm considerably less sure. If something can be counted, something will be counted, and used as a measurement of better or worse. And that is a problem inherent to addressable media (as opposed to broadcast media).

Fizzles, Sunday, 2 April 2023 14:08 (one year ago) link

Foucault's recognition of the power of structuring data to form the political landscape gets truer and truer exactly as it's overlooked

satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 2 April 2023 15:13 (one year ago) link

The media is the panopticon ffs

satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 2 April 2023 15:13 (one year ago) link

Loved these posts Fizzles, wish I’d known about this exhibition sooner though.

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 2 April 2023 15:45 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

no doubt to be replaced by another Tory donor https://t.co/w2tycNL57z

— James Mackenzie 🐀v (@mrjamesmack) April 28, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 April 2023 09:14 (one year ago) link

is nadine busy?

koogs, Friday, 28 April 2023 15:45 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

"I am going undercover..." i.e. being actively misleading.

In some journalistic contexts, this is valid. Essential even. But when it comes to mental/neurological diagnosis, an *incredibly* complex process as is, dishonesty has a huge impact on the outcome.

/5 pic.twitter.com/yWL2t9XlTx

— Dean Burnett (@Garw✧✧✧@o✧✧✧.soc✧✧✧) (@garwboy) May 15, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 10:19 (eleven months ago) link

Things are somehow worse elsewhere

Just for clarity… this is not a live situation 😳
It happened in Scotland and we are covering it on @5_News today https://t.co/9NFjQxCbpo

— Dan Walker (@mrdanwalker) May 16, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 10:22 (eleven months ago) link

one month passes...

it's bad enough that you're platforming Jonathan fucking Pie but running a trailer during the football commentary is pure violence

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 19:34 (ten months ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0gn8_pX0AAhqaX?format=jpg&name=large

and a certain horrendous bbc presenter is trending, the one that dressed as a cowboy once!

calzino, Saturday, 8 July 2023 14:27 (ten months ago) link

tbf if it's that cunt i thought he was Channel 5 now

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 July 2023 15:17 (ten months ago) link

On Radio 2 also I think?

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Saturday, 8 July 2023 15:18 (ten months ago) link

It weren't me, guv.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/breaking-jeremy-vine-denies-bbc-30421015

... or Rylan.

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Saturday, 8 July 2023 15:21 (ten months ago) link

that picture's doing him no favours

koogs, Saturday, 8 July 2023 15:25 (ten months ago) link

I would have certainly thought Westwood or Moyles but it makes it sound like it’s a current presenter

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 8 July 2023 15:49 (ten months ago) link

i forgot about his Radio 2 gig

couldn't happen to a nicer guy

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 July 2023 16:06 (ten months ago) link

Huw, sorry, How long do we have to wait to find out who this is?

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Sunday, 9 July 2023 11:39 (ten months ago) link

Hoooooo boy

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 9 July 2023 11:45 (ten months ago) link

are youse dropping cryptic clues here that it is Huw Edwards!

calzino, Sunday, 9 July 2023 11:46 (ten months ago) link

"Nonce" is trending today - you wouldn't get that on threads!

calzino, Sunday, 9 July 2023 11:48 (ten months ago) link

dunno if its been doctored but photo of huw in his pants now doing the rounds on twitter

NickB, Sunday, 9 July 2023 22:56 (ten months ago) link

more out of his pants than in them though

NickB, Sunday, 9 July 2023 22:59 (ten months ago) link

unfortunately for BBC nonces, Starmer isn't DPP anymore so they are very likely to get prosecuted now

calzino, Monday, 10 July 2023 04:43 (ten months ago) link

I would have advised Huw Edwards to turn the other cheek but photographic evidence suggests he's already done that.

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Monday, 10 July 2023 08:32 (ten months ago) link

he's really fucked his chance of a knighthood now!

calzino, Monday, 10 July 2023 08:43 (ten months ago) link

he broke the rules by going full pedo before the knighthood

calzino, Monday, 10 July 2023 08:45 (ten months ago) link

BBC not helped by their current Director General having one of those generic smug Tory faces which makes him look like he's constantly smirking.

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 12:26 (nine months ago) link

Then there's this...

Tim Davie says gap between initial contact and approaching presenter was reasonable but ‘there may be some learnings’ from case

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 18:06 (nine months ago) link

findings out, learnings, laughings, that's what the BBC is for

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 18:09 (nine months ago) link

Doesn't the 'victim' now say this is all bullshit made up by her mom?

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 19:10 (nine months ago) link

there are fresh accusations from another young woman about "menacing texts" and requests for sexually explicit pics. I don't know if this is normal for ppl using dating apps but am calling that this guy is a wrong 'un.

calzino, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 19:18 (nine months ago) link

has it been confirmed that it's a woman? The bbc report I say was sticking determinedly to the formulation 'young person', no pronouns, almost to the point of unintentional comedy (clarifying that this young person is a separate young person from the first young person etc)

he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 19:23 (nine months ago) link

Yeah, I actually don't know the gender of the accusers

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 19:28 (nine months ago) link

I read "youth" being used in earlier reports, and only males are known as youths in newspaper speak.

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 19:32 (nine months ago) link

I was just blithely assuming that that all terrible, royal arselicking, Welsh newsreaders are het!

calzino, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 20:09 (nine months ago) link

The ever professional and competent Kay Burley talking to a government minister on Sky News this morning:

"What would you like to say to the parents of this boy, er, person?"

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 06:24 (nine months ago) link

The Scum has a long history of being the most prolifically homophobic tabloid sheet in Britain; it has leveraged sexuality against individuals it seeks to exert control over and as a driver of public discourses for decades. In doing so it has ruined lives and encouraged violence

— tom (@tomrade_) July 12, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 20:43 (nine months ago) link

Newsnight this evening hosted Sun columnist and prominent dickhead Rod Liddle to tell its audience that the paper had behaved impeccably. The corporation really doesn't help itself sometimes. https://t.co/PhUNoI1O2k

— James B (@piercepenniless) July 12, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 22:23 (nine months ago) link

The BBC News front is a bit "Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich. Malkovich? Malkovich" at the moment.

https://i.imgur.com/lKLemo0.jpg

Alba, Thursday, 13 July 2023 04:33 (nine months ago) link

Why does Huw Edwards take ice baths?

conrad, Thursday, 13 July 2023 06:24 (nine months ago) link

On BBC's "today's papers", there is one front page missing...

Mark G, Thursday, 13 July 2023 07:38 (nine months ago) link

They often don't get sent The Sun's. I'm surprised whenever it is there (not that I check it that often).

nashwan, Thursday, 13 July 2023 09:59 (nine months ago) link

one month passes...

welp stephen nolan allegedly sending nudie pics of someone else to his staff now is it

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 12:24 (eight months ago) link

hah, I would love to see this sanctimonious slug getting sacked .. but sadly....

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 12:39 (eight months ago) link


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