Help me pick an apartment, or just make obnoxious comments

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I need to find a new apartment. I have decided row-homes (or town-houses or brown-stones, if you prefer, but "town-house" sounds hoity-toity to me, and most "brown-stones" in Philadelphia aren't actually brown-stones, and that feels like an imported Boston expression or something, which we don't need around here) converted into apartments are not a good idea for me, because the floors are too thin. I am looking at apartment buildings instead.

I've gotten two online recommendations of a certain building from people who say they lived there but didn't hear their neighbors (at least not in their bedroom, which is the main room I'm concerned about). The floors are thick concrete, since the building was used in the past to manufacture cars, and even tanks. I saw a couple apartments there. They are nice (and expensive). I talked with a maintenance person about the walls. He had also lived in the building and he said: "I'm not going to tell you that you won't hear your neighbors. You will hear your neighbors." Etc. I have not shared a bedroom wall with another apartment for over ten-years. The last time I did that, I had serious noise problems. Chances are that the walls in the building I am now looking at are thicker than what I had before, but I am still very hesitant to have someone else's livingroom on the other side of my bedroom wall. All I need is some clown with one of those really loud surround sound TVs. Still, I have two recommendations, which is more than I usual have when considering a building.

I found another building with (carpeted) concrete floors, but there aren't any apartments open there at the moment. However, they may be some there next week. If I were to get a two-bedroom apartment there (which would cost about the same as a 1BR in the other place), I could avoid sharing a wall with a neighboring apartment, but there is only one 2BR on each floor.

So do I wait until next week? I guess I am going to wait, but I just hope I am not making a mistake by not snapping up the nice, expensive 1BR in the recommended building. What chance do I actually have of finding a corner apartment in a building with concrete floors? I am ruling out a lot of apartments by asking for that.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Friday, 27 February 2004 05:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Concrete floors help, but you won't get total silence from above. My upstairs neighbors LOVE to overload their washer, and I can hear it rattling around in their utility closet just fine, despite the inches of concrete between us.

lyra (lyra), Friday, 27 February 2004 05:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I really don't want to be snarky, but honestly if you're looking for peace and quiet, any apartment in any city won't cut it.

hstencil, Friday, 27 February 2004 05:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, maybe if you keep those Bose noise-canceling headphones on all time...

lyra (lyra), Friday, 27 February 2004 05:18 (twenty-two years ago)

i find it hard to believe that anything in philly is expensive. but living and working around NYC for 6 years will do that to you.

if noise is a big deal, i think that i'd go w/ the 2 bedroom esp. if it's the same price as the potentially loud 1 bedroom.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 27 February 2004 05:22 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.adifferentdirection.com/christ_first/images/JesusRocksBlack.gif

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 27 February 2004 05:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Wrong thread, perchance?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 27 February 2004 05:35 (twenty-two years ago)

No, just all I could conjure for "obnoxious commentary".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 27 February 2004 05:36 (twenty-two years ago)

jesus may well rock, but that doesn't change the fact that he seems to have unusually small hands

mark p (Mark P), Friday, 27 February 2004 05:42 (twenty-two years ago)

that's probably the most tasteful picture of jesus christ i've seen all week (thanks, mel gibson!)

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 27 February 2004 05:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Misread thread title:

"Help me pick an argument, or just make obnoxious comments"

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 27 February 2004 10:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I really don't want to be snarky, but honestly if you're looking for peace and quiet, any apartment in any city won't cut it.

I don't think the suburbs would be any better. Most of my noise problems are from within the apartment buildings I've lived in, rather than from outside sources.

Anyway, I should have realized early on that I am not cut out for apartment living, and started focusing on saving for a house. It took me a while to figure this out about myself. I just thought I needed to find the right apartment. (Even now I'm being optimistic, but I have to be, or I'll be miserable.)

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Friday, 27 February 2004 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Unfortunately I don't think total silence is going to happen in any apartment.

Chris V (Chris V), Friday, 27 February 2004 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't want total silence. I want the absence of sounds-I-find-distracting,I am trying to sleep.

Esibar, yeah, I guess I will wait at least until next week. There's no reason to assume that one of the 2BR will be coming available, however. The price discrepancy is there because the 1BR has a lot of extras and is more or less a luxury apartment. The other building is just okay. I've seen apartments there before and they weren't particularly attractive, but acceptable, I think. I forgot to mention (because I keep forgetting it) that someone I knew once recommended the non-luxury building as a pretty quiet place.

But chances are it's not going to be either one of these choices, and I will be pulling my hair out at the end of next week.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Friday, 27 February 2004 15:10 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah Rockist, what I meant is you might want to start looking for a house in the country.

hstencil, Friday, 27 February 2004 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Sit on my front porch and play the banjo--well, the oud maybe.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Friday, 27 February 2004 15:34 (twenty-two years ago)

You need to hook up with the guys in Pelt -- sitting on a porch in the Appalachians and playing the oud is their raison d'etre.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 February 2004 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you think they've ever said "raison d'etre" ?

dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 27 February 2004 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Sure, why not?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 February 2004 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I have a really quiet apartment here in DC. I live on the top floor and the walls separating the units here are all concrete, big solid fuckers, built 1927 as a luxury hotel actually. I have decided I don't give a shit about any of it and I just want a hot shower in the morning, a decent washer/dryer and some goddamned congressional representation. I'm seriously thinking of not bothering to register with the DMV or the voting commission here at all and just bolting to Alexandria across the river when my lease is up next November. That's how much I hate this fucking town right now. But my apartment is quiet.

TOMBOT, Friday, 27 February 2004 18:02 (twenty-two years ago)

No 2BRs available for May at the moderately priced place.

No call-back from the woman at the pricey place, which probably means that the 1BRs there are gone.

I think I may be screwed. I have some other places to look, but I would be really willing to take the apartment I saw last week, which I think is more likely to work out than most.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Friday, 5 March 2004 00:53 (twenty-two years ago)

fuck you

Willdabeast, Friday, 5 March 2004 01:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Thank you, but you could be more creative, gridle lover.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Friday, 5 March 2004 01:11 (twenty-two years ago)

oh dear

Willdabeast, Friday, 5 March 2004 01:12 (twenty-two years ago)

rockist what neighborhood were you looking to live in?

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 5 March 2004 01:14 (twenty-two years ago)

bl**dy vagrants

Willdabeast, Friday, 5 March 2004 01:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I would prefer to stay in or at least near center city. Why, do you know some well sound-proofed buildings here somewhere?

By living in center city, or nearby, I can walk to work. It's about a 20-25 minute walk now. I don't know if I'd want to push much further over that. I don't have a car, and I would like to avoid taking the bus first thing in the morning, because I am neither a morning nor a people person, and people first thing in the morning are very annoying.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Friday, 5 March 2004 01:22 (twenty-two years ago)

how about near the convention center? (just kidding)

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 5 March 2004 01:30 (twenty-two years ago)

well, it's getting really gentrified now, but what i guess is generally referred to as bella vista, the part i lived in (around 11th and webster) is still quite ghetto but easily the quietest place i've lived EVER, including the suburbs.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 5 March 2004 01:32 (twenty-two years ago)

(strongo, I work at the central library, if you haven't picked up on that, so as long as I can walk to work in, say, a half hour, I don't care too much which direction I'm coming from.)

(I changed names partly to get away from personal details like this, but I'm never very consistent.)

x-post. Hmmm, I could at least look there. There's a lot available there. My biggest problems aren't external noise, but noise from other apartments, which is pretty hard to relate to any particular geographic area, I would think.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Friday, 5 March 2004 01:34 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, the street i lived on was pretty much deserted. it was a bunch of row homes, but only mine and one other was occupied at the time and across the alley was a school, which was fine since i was at work all day when it was open. unfortunately the condition of the house was pretty crappy. (but only $400 a month!)

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 5 March 2004 01:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Shame on you ILE, there hasn't been a single obnoxious comment on this thread so far (bar Willdabeast's effort)

Matt (Matt), Friday, 5 March 2004 01:38 (twenty-two years ago)

You're all cunts, obv.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 5 March 2004 01:39 (twenty-two years ago)

not to be snooty or classist, but i would think that you'd have more problems w/ noise from neighbors in lower-income areas.

how long ago did you live in bella vista, strongo? my understanding is that it's becoming kinda trendy -- not manayunk or olde city trendy, but not like living in the hard-core ghetto.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 5 March 2004 01:43 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah this was like 99-00, so grain of salt.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 5 March 2004 01:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think I'm ready to live in the ghetto, really. Even if it turned out that I was satisfied with it, I would worry about what potential dates would think about coming back to that sort of place. I can see how it could be quiet though, if that abandoned.

Also, I've lived in relatively run-down places, and I do find it a little depressing after a while.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Friday, 5 March 2004 01:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I am going to take the pricey place. It's still available. (I'm not saying how much the rent is, if I haven't already.) Two recommendations and no horror stories about the place is about as good a lead as I am going to get.

I feel relieved that I can now start thinking about everything else again (except I also have to think about moving, and not just think, but start doing things to get ready).

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Friday, 5 March 2004 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)

six months pass...
Okay, with these silicone ear-plugs I've discovered, I sleep fairly well, but the walls are like cardboard. The laugh of the woman on the other side of my bedroom is sometimes so loud, it sounds like she is in my room. There is no privacy.

I HAVE TO buy a house, a stand-alone house.

Whatever I have to do. Can't I just go into massive debt or something? I have a stable job (albeit, one I often dream of quitting, though not as much as before automated internet sign-up). I've been in the same job for ten years. Isn't that enough to get me the money to buy a house and a car? This would be something worth sacrificing for, so if I end up having to work extra Sundays and stop buying so many CDs (which I should stop doing anyway), and so forth then okay.

This sounds more like a plea to God or something.

(Meanwhile I still haven't gotten my driver's license. I have not yet taken the test. I keep getting interrupted. Now I have to start over again, take the computer test (a joke), and get a doctor to verify that I am fit to drive. Paperwork, etc.)

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 17 September 2004 02:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I should have rented the house next to C*****a and just somehow figured out a way to get to work from there. She commutes just as long a distance as I would have had to by foot. But I am not a morning person. That's another problem, commute-wise. Still, even if I were temporarily out stranded in some terribly remote corner of Philadelphia, eventually I think I would recover.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 17 September 2004 02:37 (twenty-one years ago)

TYPICAL AMERICAN SCUM HOW MANY IRAQIS HAVE YOU MADE HOMELESS AND YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT SOUNDPROOFING ON YOUR FUCKING APARTMENTS BUILDINGS ROT IN HELL.

Darraghmac, Friday, 17 September 2004 02:40 (twenty-one years ago)

that's as obnoxious as i could muster. it's been a good day. i do thinks the caps were a nice touch, though.

put your money into a house anyway. bricks and mortar is always a solid investment, and it gives one's mind room to reflect.


mmmm houses

Darraghmac, Friday, 17 September 2004 02:42 (twenty-one years ago)

If I don't get enough sleep, I won't be able to write my Senators on a regular basis.

x-post

Yes, I guess I shouldn't have revived my thread with that invitation to attack. At the time it made sense.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 17 September 2004 02:45 (twenty-one years ago)

If I hadn't had that big iced coffee this morning, I'd probably be asleep now. (But if I hadn't had it, I would hardly have been functional at work.)

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 17 September 2004 02:46 (twenty-one years ago)

five years pass...

can someone pls find me an apartment? i will pay you in beer (or other cocktails).

tehresa, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:13 (sixteen years ago)

same here. Apartment hunting is the woooorst

A lot of you have come here today with booing in your heart (Z S), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:16 (sixteen years ago)

wait you are leaving that awesome pad w/ the bar? :(

this city has the worst apartment listings i have ever seen (and that includes doing 2 apartment hunts in nyc).

tehresa, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:17 (sixteen years ago)

currently deciding whether or not to try and find a new apartment for next year (there are many drawbacks to my current place but jeez I would be willing to put up with them for one more year if it meant obviating the need for another apartment search!)

Did you in fact lift my luggage (dyao), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:19 (sixteen years ago)

i like finding apts its one of my only real skills

coining (Lamp), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:20 (sixteen years ago)

ok you are hired. find me apartment!

tehresa, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:22 (sixteen years ago)

where do u live portland or seattle? am i rc?

coining (Lamp), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:24 (sixteen years ago)

my biggest fear in this situation is that after you sign the lease etc. etc. there will be some massive GOTCHA! that will make living there hell on earth

Did you in fact lift my luggage (dyao), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:26 (sixteen years ago)

lol no i moved to dc metro area :(

tehresa, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:27 (sixteen years ago)

just like 1 month ago tho so you sorta rc

tehresa, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:27 (sixteen years ago)

i hope Rockist_Scientist found peace. i really like the way he expresses himself in this thread.

jed_, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:56 (sixteen years ago)

i'm not being sarcastic btw

jed_, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:57 (sixteen years ago)

Lamp when yr done with tza let me know, I want a month to month in SLC that won't care that I haven't found a job yet and is also crazy cheap and if it could have a balcony and utilities paid and some unsecured wifi in the building that would be awesome, thx.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 05:38 (sixteen years ago)

fifteen years pass...

Closest thing to a thread on the topic to search for but: friend is helping her brother with an apartment move in New Mexico and as she said, "all the big apartment-finding sites barely have any listings not in major metro areas." Anyone have any suggestions?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 August 2025 17:47 (ten months ago)

Craigslist? On the right sidebar it will show nearby areas that are not necessarily major metro markets

However, I say that from the SF Bay Area where CL has been well entrenched for years if not decades, might not be the case elsewhere

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 15 August 2025 18:01 (ten months ago)

My usual way to find an apartment in a rural area is to pass through a small town in my car, crash into a fence whilst trying to avoid hitting a cow, it turns out the fence belongs to a local judge, who sentences me to 32 hours of community service (increased from 16 hours due to my arrogant city boy anger) at the town's medical clinic. Eventually the small town grows to love me, and I marry a local woman who works as an ambulance driver.

Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 15 August 2025 18:07 (ten months ago)

I was thinking, is there any chance that your friend's brother is an especially attractive single person with good hook-up skills?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 15 August 2025 18:10 (ten months ago)

xpost So you're the guy.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 August 2025 18:11 (ten months ago)

Last time I needed to, 24 years ago, was to look in the local newspaper. I realize that may not be helpful now. How about a real estate agency?

Crispy Ambulance Chaser (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 15 August 2025 18:13 (ten months ago)

unperson made a sharp suggestion elsewhere: "I've found that most sites, rent. com, zillow etc., will give decent results if you search by zip code instead of by city."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 August 2025 18:15 (ten months ago)


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