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hello photoshop friends!

i'm trying to generate some fake newspaper articles/headlines for a movie i'm doing. i was wondering if anyone could tell me the best way to approximate that newsprint look; i scanned in some blank newsprint and stuck some text on top of it, but what do i do next? can i use the scanned newsprint as some sort of texture or something? thank you photoshop friends!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Please tell me it's related to Archie meets the Punisher.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:20 (twenty-two years ago)

...the clock is ticking...

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)

haha! oh me oh my.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)

please help me.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't. sorry!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)

How does it look with the type on top of the scanned newsprint (I presume you're using layers)? How does it need to improve? Just the texture of it, or are you having problems with the layout too?

I'm not sure if I know what I'm doing in Photoshop or not. I haven't really got to grips with textures yet.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)

i sent an email to a PS whiz i know, so maybe i can help you out soon

― kephm, Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

you sent an email just because of me! that's very sweet of you!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

(unless it wasn't because of me)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

here's what i'm figuring on doing now, after some tinkering around:

1) generate my text
2) add photo & halftone it
3) flatten my text onto a white background
4) run the texturizer filter, and use my scanned newsprint as the texture
5) tweak as neccessary
6) possibly run the photocopy filter as well

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)

also i might generate/lay out my text in word and output as a pdf, then import it into PS and rasterize it, then add photo

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

also i might lie down.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

well i started a thread once on advice for transferring DV film to pc and you were the only one to respond! so yeah!

xpost

― kephm, Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

it's like you're settling an ancient score, but in a good way!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

i can't think of anything that'd improve on what you're doing now.

― m., Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

you mean i'm that good?!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)

oh wait, you didn't mean "in life," you meant in photoshop right?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)

haha. No, you have reached the pinnacle of existence and you are an example to us all.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Have the newsprint scan on one layer. Place your black headline text on a layer above it and set the text layer to "multiply" instead of "normal". Then play around with the opacity slider of the text layer until it looks right to you.

― chris j (chris j), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)

that's just gonna look like a faded out computer font tho? i mean i think the halftoning is pretty important. oh wait, upon rereading it seems that slocki is halftoning the photo and not the text.. this right, slocki? why don't you do what chris says above and then merge the layers and halftone/photocopy the whole thing?

― m., Wednesday, 14 April 2004 21:01 (twenty-two years ago)

should i halftone the whole thing? it looked kinda weird... i found running a mild photocopy filter over the text gave it a pretty good look! but i'm totally gonna try the chris j method now!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 21:11 (twenty-two years ago)

actually wtf am i talking about, the blank newsprint shouldnt be halftoned. ignore me after the first sentence of the last post.

― m., Wednesday, 14 April 2004 21:12 (twenty-two years ago)

so i've used a combination of everyone's ideas here--the "multiply" layer thing was brilliant, thanks for that (it didn't really affect the photo the way i wanted, so i texturizered it, in addition to halftoning). plus a little photocopy effect = reasonably believable newspaper article! thanks dudes!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 21:19 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
so i have another, similar question over a year later!


i'm trying to make a flyer for my dj night. i have a photo i took of an alleyway. it's got a brick wall with a nice bit of text painted on it. i wanted to add MORE text, and make it look like the new text is also painted on the wall. any simple way to achieve this, to make the type "melt" into the background layer?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

this is kind of the opposite of my above question.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Let's see this picture. There's no one answer to that question.

― slightly more subdued (kenan), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

quick and dirty? make the text slightly transparent.

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

hope this isn't too big:

http://photos10.flickr.com/14681646_6f8d830728.jpg

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

and yeah giboyeux, that doesn't quite produce the effect i'm looking for...

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Find the alley, add the text, take a new picture, voilà!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

is that an adobe-recommended workaround?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Hm. There's still no single way to do it. I don't know what to tell you. Except to zoom in and get cracking on some detail work.

― slightly more subdued (kenan), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i guess i'll go the casuistry route

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

(plz tell me you are adding "ON THE DANCE FLOOR" in parens)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

BRILLIANT

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i am now, oh am i ever.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i was just about to ditch this stupid idea. now i gotta make it work!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know too much about PS specifically, but somehow I can realistically render album covers in ms paint, soooo my best stab at this would be something like trying to approximate the style and basic black and white of that font, then using the eyedropper tool to take tones from the brick wall and then "scuffing up" the letters with whatever other paint tool seems appropriate and THEN applying the whole mess as a transparent layer. Hopefully would be a lot more seamless.

― Kim (Kim), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Best I could do:

http://photos9.flickr.com/14685648_a04c72d539_o.png

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

...in 15 minutes at least.

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

how you do that?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Brushes, mang.

http://www.designbureauofamerika.com/howiezine%5Fsite/

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Have you considered adding a drop shadow to match the original text?

― Flava Flavs got problems of his own! / Kate (papa november), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

That would definitely make it match better, for sure.

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i have not only considered it--i've done it!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

whoa, those brushes are teh awesome.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Plus the colour you've used on the text is more of a cream colour than the original text. Can you use the eyedropper to match it?

― Flava Flavs got problems of his own! / Kate (papa november), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Brushes are DOPE. There's like a bazillion of them, too.

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Little rotation, too.

― slightly more subdued (kenan), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Skipping 77 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.
Mind you, my only ever attempt at flyer design got turned down by absolutely everyone:-

http://www.coastaltown.nildram.co.uk/porl/russflyer.jpg

― On one hand I've got myself to blame (Lynskey), Friday, 20 May 2005 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Make the graffiti font lighter!

And maybe pick a different font for the back? That oen looks a little clunky.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 20 May 2005 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i always liked rockwell! i think it rocks well. but maybe i'll try some other ones?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 May 2005 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Also maybe skew the graffiti a bit?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 20 May 2005 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i did! but i suppose not enough, haha

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 May 2005 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe even a touch of distortion? Dunno if that would make it look less "font"y.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 20 May 2005 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

that's a good idea.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 May 2005 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha! AND A STARBURST.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 21 May 2005 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Use the levels adjustments on the text layer and make the maximum white less white if you get what i mean.

― On one hand I've got myself to blame (Lynskey), Saturday, 21 May 2005 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)

oh i do. and i will.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 21 May 2005 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

and then stick someone's head on there, and then clone one of their eyes, and then give them a third eye!!!! lololololol, so kewl

― Amon (eman), Saturday, 21 May 2005 05:21 (twenty-one years ago)

ILE needs to become a design shop STAT. I need extra cash.

Totally. I need cash real bad (did I mention I'm unemployed?).

― giboyeux (skowly), Saturday, 21 May 2005 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

We had a thread for this, I believe.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 22 May 2005 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Really? Where?

― giboyeux (skowly), Sunday, 22 May 2005 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Now that I think about it - it wasn't directly about an ILX design team.
I think I had started a thread where I was complaining about my ex-boss and a bunch of people came out of the designer closet. The subject of ILX designwas brought up at that point.

Then we had the unemployment thread. Which I wil no longer be posting to because I got my ass a job a few days ago!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 22 May 2005 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i was sick yesterday and migrainey today so i couldn't print out flyers in time for a house party (last night) and MIA/LCD (tonight)

:(

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 22 May 2005 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

should i just make the flyer my screensaver/desktop and bring my laptop to the show? and go up to people and shove my display in their faces?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 22 May 2005 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

You need to tranform a real alleyway now.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 22 May 2005 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

and bring it to the show?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 23 May 2005 05:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Rockwell. I hope you decided to keep it.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 23 May 2005 05:30 (twenty-one years ago)

well you know i rock well!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 23 May 2005 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)

i think i will keep it. is it vulgar to use it in three different sizes though?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 23 May 2005 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
Anyone help me make an animated gif please? I'm a bit lost. Every time I try and make a frame different to the preceding one, all the preceding ones change too. I guess it's simple but I've never done it before...

― beanz (beanz), Monday, 15 August 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)

Oh! I think I know this one!

When you go onto the next frame, duplicate the original layer and edit the duplicate, then make the original one invisible for that frame (so each frame uses a different layer). I've not used Imageready in a long time, but I'm pretty sure that's how it's done.

― astropatty (adr), Monday, 15 August 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

Thanks I'll give that a go

― beanz (beanz), Monday, 15 August 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

okay smarteypant ilxors.

how do i create a simple shape in photoshop without any fill? ie just an outline shape. It's driving me mental, i'm only after a simple bloody circle !

i managed to get the rectangle to do it with the preset styles, but then it wouldn't let me choose my own colour. daft.

― Ste, Thursday, 13 December 2007 13:38 (eighteen years ago)

Photoshop's not really meant for that -- Illustrator is what you need to draw shapes.

― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 13 December 2007 13:42 (eighteen years ago)

You can kind of hack a circle in Photoshop, though. Using the circular select tool, make a circular selection while holding down, er, Shift and Option I think? That will force a circle rather than an ellipse, and your cursor will be in the middle of the circle rather than in a corner of it, if you see what I mean. Fill with black. Do the same thing again, starting from the very middle of the circle, and go almost right up to the edge of your black circle. Delete your selection.

That's a hack, though. What you really want is Illustrator.

― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 13 December 2007 13:44 (eighteen years ago)

Circle's quite easy

― Tom D., Thursday, 13 December 2007 13:46 (eighteen years ago)

photoshop has shape tools, i refuse to believe it's not possible to produce an outline shape if it lets you produce filled in ones.

― Ste, Thursday, 13 December 2007 13:48 (eighteen years ago)

tell me Tom !

― Ste, Thursday, 13 December 2007 13:49 (eighteen years ago)

use the circular marquee tool while holding down shift, then select Edit > Stroke and it will ask you how many pixels you want the line to be. Done.

― dan selzer, Thursday, 13 December 2007 13:49 (eighteen years ago)

ah i will try this. thanks.

― Ste, Thursday, 13 December 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

That sounds good!

― Tom D., Thursday, 13 December 2007 13:51 (eighteen years ago)

haha dan has actually learned techniques since version 3.0 - i have not!

― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 13 December 2007 14:01 (eighteen years ago)

some other (similar) suggestions:
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-67125.html

― Ste, Thursday, 13 December 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

Dan's method is best but it could be more obvious couldn't it. I've been wanting Photoshop and Illustrator to merge for a while now.

― blueski, Thursday, 13 December 2007 14:18 (eighteen years ago)

A general method for creating "outline" objects in PS:

1. Set the pencil or brush settings as you'd like the circle to appear.
2. Choose the ellipse tool (U or shift-U several times).
3. Select "paths" on the bar at the top (near the left).
4. Make a circle.
5. Right-click on the circle and choose "stroke path".
6. Stroke using brush or pencil, as you've chosen above.

― libcrypt, Thursday, 13 December 2007 14:33 (eighteen years ago)

amazing that a package as expensive as PS doesn't include this fundamental tool.

I think it's going to be easier for me to work in PS and then load up the image in PSP for the vector stuff.

― Ste, Thursday, 13 December 2007 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

But photoshop is designed to retouch and work with photos, not really draw shapes and things. All the vector shape and type tools are add-ons and are much inferior to Illustrator and InDesign.

― dan selzer, Thursday, 13 December 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah but I'm not asking for wonderamazing structure drawing type functions, i just want to draw a bloody circle - and not a filled in one. Lots of other paint/photo packages still include basic shape drawing tools, as far as I know it's been a standard for over 20 years.

yes i will gladly buy Illustrator if i was trying to draw a scene from the video game Tempest but I'm not.

PSP one is pretty good, it uses the fg/bg colors for the outline/fill in. Very simple and I see no reason why Adobe couldn't have nicked this, i mean they nicked everything else from Quantel didn't they? oohh.

― Ste, Thursday, 13 December 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

but Ste you CAN draw a circle w/Photoshop! what's your beef?

― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 13 December 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

photoshop nicked everything from pretty much every competing graphics program. Hell, I used to do scans with Linoytype software that had several amazing tools that are now conveniently part of photoshop as well.

― dan selzer, Thursday, 13 December 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

But photoshop is designed to retouch and work with photos, not really draw shapes and things.

Yes and no. I use Photoshop for anything pixel-based at all. Anything that will end up on a computer screen starts in Photoshop for me. It's a lot more versatile that being only for photos.

― kenan, Thursday, 13 December 2007 17:10 (eighteen years ago)

I know, I'm just talking about it's initial purpose and how it's designed. Everything is about making selections, make a selection, use a mask, save a selection, save a mask, fill a selection, stroke a selection etc etc.

― dan selzer, Thursday, 13 December 2007 17:13 (eighteen years ago)

Tracer, you're right. i've only just tried the routines suggested, to be honest i thought they'd be more fiddly than they are. Turns out they're pretty versatile.

Sorry for the rant, ignore me. photoshop is great again, etc.

― Ste, Thursday, 13 December 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

(i'm fairly new to the Paths thing, fyi)

― Ste, Thursday, 13 December 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

Paths comes initially from the need to create a silhouette for when the image got placed in Quark (or another layout program.) Now it's a versatile way to create and edit shapes, though it's still preferable to simply use quickmask to make a selection and save it to a channel, allowing you to come back to it. I admit that I find drawing paths in photoshop easier than illustrator, and have often made art by drawing paths or outlining art with paths in photoshop, then using the essential "export paths to illustrator" tool. I find this easier than tracing art in Illustrator, perhaps because I'm more comfortable with photoshop, but also because the paths tool is more simplified then the drawing tools in illustrator.

― dan selzer, Thursday, 13 December 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)

until recently i would create bevelled-edge rectangles in photoshop in quite a convoluted fashion involving circular marquee selections and duplication gah.

i wonder if Paths function would help me do what i want re plotting a custom shape in which every corner is curved and at a pre-determined angle (but depending on the direction of your next plot point). this is more an illustrator thing really. there's probably a simple way of doing this that i've never known about.

― blueski, Thursday, 13 December 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

That is the kind of thing illustrator is made for.

― dan selzer, Thursday, 13 December 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)


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