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B.D. loses his leg during the fighting in Iraq:

A main character in the "Doonesbury" comic strip will lose a leg while fighting in Iraq , one of two strips published this week that feature soldiers getting injured in the war.

In Monday's "Doonesbury," B.D., a football coach-turned-soldier, was injured after being reactivated in the Army at the end of 2002, following a losing football season.
Later this week, he will wake up to find his left leg amputated, according to Universal Press Syndicate, the strip's distributor.
"Doonesbury" creator Garry Trudeau said he wanted to illustrate the sacrifices American soldiers are making.
"It's a task any writer should approach with great humility, but I think it's worth doing," Trudeau said. "We are at war, and we can't lose sight of the hardships war inflicts on individual lives..."

Some papers aren't running the strips, as seen here

another article on it

the strip in question, which also shows B.D. without his helmet on for the first time ever...

― Kingfish Disraeli (Kingfish), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

WITH. HIS. HELMET. OFF.

― g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Dang. And I thought showing Dilbert with his tie straight the one time was disconcerting. (More serious thoughts later.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Amazing.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)

he loses his leg AND his helmet in the same strip? that really compounds the trauma for me! maybe that's the real reason some papers aren't running it!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

This strip will run right above the "Family Circus" in which a suicide bomber denonates by the family, killing Billy and Dolly and puncturing lil' Jeffy's lungs with nails.

― yossarian, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:40 (twenty-two years ago)

"Who did it, Jeffy?"

"Ida Know...and Osama!"

― hstencil, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)

"Who killed all these people?"
"NOT ME!"

*ghost with Osama bin Laden's features smiles and runs off, leaving a dotted-line trail*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)

XPOST YA BASTARD

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

somewhat offtopic did anyone read that aaron mcgruder profile in the new yorker this week where he talks about bil keane putting him down at the comics awards?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

hahaha you've lost your touch, Raggett.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah I read the McGruder profile. I like him a lot, although I'm starting to think he should just abandon the comics.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

hahaha you've lost your touch, Raggett.

Hey, at least I remembered the dotted line, a sublime touch o' Keane.

Aaron McGruder for press secretary, where he can spend each day trashing the administration in entertaining fashion.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

i dunno! his comics are so great, i have this sinking feeling that he won't really excel as a screenwriter or whatever it is he wants to do now in the same way. maybe cuz the way things are now he REALLY stands out in his medium.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Amazing.
-- VengaDan Perry (djperr...), April 21st, 2004.

Dude, please change your name to 'The Amazing VengaDan Perry'.

― Barima (Barima), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

he stands out in a medium he doesn't dedicate any time to? I mean, the guy doesn't even draw the strip anymore. Although I guess I shouldn't comment, seeing as I haven't read it in ages.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Uh, are we talking about Trudeau, Keane or McGruder here?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Keane, duh

― The Amazing VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

My day's been made.

― Barima (Barima), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

On both counts!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

well that's what i'm saying stence, i wish he'd put some more of his energies back into the comic.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

god that mcgruder story was even more depressing than the harold ramis story

― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)

seriously!! the humour issue is the most depressing yet! how about that aspiring stand-up comedians one? so bleak

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

aspiring stand-up comedians be starving!

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

uh, anyway i thought the way mcgruder invited alterman to "lick deez nuts" or whatever was pretty fantastic.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 16:40 (twenty-two years ago)

alterman's comment so so smug and awful: "i went out into the lobby, which is a very nice lobby by the way, and worked on my manuscript" (paraphrase)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Holy crap! Thanks for pointing this out -- I haven't been paying much attention to Doonesbury the past few years (I prefer reading it in book form anyway) so I would have totally missed this...

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.comics.com/comics/getfuzzy/archive/images/getfuzzy21830140040419.gif

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:00 (twenty-two years ago)

What, is BD his cousin?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought McGruder came off as self-righteous and puffed up. Boondocks has and will suffer for his pretention, though I suppose a fella's got follow his dream.

Loved the Anthony Lane piece on Wodehouse.

― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)

weird timing. my friend at work today told me he found out one of his high school buddies lost a brother over there very recently.

― Kingfish Disraeli (Kingfish), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:49 (twenty-two years ago)

What, is BD his cousin?

Nah, the strip I posted above was Monday's edition of the terminally-awful 'Get Fuzzy', a right-wing-ish comic that's 'pre-empted' Doonesbury by running the same storyline, no doubt in a manner that will be 'supportive of the administration', ie it'll be all heartwarming and full of pro-troop propanganda.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmmm, 'propanganda'. My bad, sorry.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Is Get Fuzzy right-wing in sympathies? Honestly I never paid attention to it enough to notice.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:50 (twenty-two years ago)

"Get Fuzzy" Is right-wing????

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:50 (twenty-two years ago)

HAHA COSMIC TWIN MIND-MELD

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)

OUR MINDS ARE MELDING, WE ARE ONE.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I've never met him and I may have only seen one photograph of him, on here, but doesn't the guy on the phone in the fuzzy whatever look like dave q?

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Is the Aaron McGruder article online? What did Bil Keane say about him?

― Acid! Polizei! (ex machina), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:55 (twenty-two years ago)

http://newyorker.com/fact/content/?040419fa_fact2

McGruder, who rarely prepares notes or speeches for events like this, began by thanking Thurman, “the most ass-kicking woman in America.” Then he lowered the boom. He was a twenty-nine-year-old black man, he said, who got invited to such functions all the time, so you could imagine how bored he was. He proceeded to ramble, at considerable length, and in a tone, as one listener put it, of “militant cynicism,” with a recurring theme: that the folks in the room (“courageous”? Please) were a sorry lot.
He told the guests that he’d called Condoleezza Rice, the national-security adviser, a mass murderer to her face; what had they ever done? (The Rice exchange occurred in 2002, at the N.A.A.C.P. Image Awards, where McGruder was given the Chairman’s Award; Rice requested that he write her into his strip.)
He recounted a lunch meeting with Fidel Castro. (He had been invited to Cuba by the California congresswoman Barbara Lee, who is one of the few politicians McGruder has praised in “The Boondocks.”) He said that noble failure was not acceptable. But the last straw came when he “dropped the N-word,” as one amused observer recalled. He said—bragged, even—that he’d voted for Nader in 2000. At that point, according to Hamilton Fish, the host of the party, “it got interactive.”
Eric Alterman, a columnist for The Nation, was sitting in the back of the room, next to Joe Wilson, the Ambassador. He shouted out, “Thanks for Bush!” Exactly what happened next is unclear. Alterman recalls that McGruder responded by grabbing his crotch and saying, “Try these nuts.” Jack Newfield, the longtime Village Voice writer, says that McGruder simply dared Alterman to remove him from the podium. When asked about this incident later, McGruder said, “I ain’t no punk. I ain’t gonna let someone shout and not go back at him.”

― Acid! Polizei! (ex machina), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:57 (twenty-two years ago)

“When I was in seventh grade, I discovered Monty Python,” he said. “That shit still kills me. I try to get my friends to watch that and they just can’t get it. ‘No, no, no, it’s funny—the lumberjack!’‘Life of Brian’ is, to me, the most brilliant piece of satire ever—it’s just brilliant. He’s trying to write ‘Romans go home’ in Latin and he can’t do the Latin right.” McGruder shook his head. “A lot of black people ain’t up on Monty Python like they should be.”

― Acid! Polizei! (ex machina), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:58 (twenty-two years ago)

From storyhunters.com: "Perhaps Conley did start getting political a few weeks ago when Bucky the cat began circulating a petition to ban ferrets (mmm, wonder what real life social group ferrets were standing in for?)."

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Bucky is evil, though! You aren't supposed to approve of anything he does!

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Um, and since when do we sympathise with Bucky's actions?

xpost, non-cosmic twin style.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyway, the Doonesbury strip is also clearly "pro-troop" (which isn't necessarily the same as "right-wing") and I was curious if there was a crossover happening.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I dunno, reading through some of these 'Get Fuzzy' strips and it does seem a little hawk-ish, although it's hardly:

http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/WeightoftheWorld-X.gif

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Get Fuzzy sure ain't Mallard Filmore.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned...don't get me started on MF. Just don't.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Go on Michael; smack that Mallard ass!

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I have never noticed anything right-wing about get fuzzy. It usually is not good though.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:28 (twenty-two years ago)

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I LOVE catching up with Doonesbury online every month or so.

Trump: Do you even know the point of success?
Underling: Well, Mr. Trump, for me, success is about creating something of real and lasting value to society.
Trump: Wrong! The point of success is to die with more money than God!
Underling: Um...that's what I meant.
Trump: You're fired!

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex, no, I suppose it's not surprising but it's still a grim pov description.

― Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

The very idea of four more years of Bush foreign policy is so utterly terrifying that I can't help but read these pieces and just shudder at the thought that despite his complete and utter awfulness he could actually be reelected. Luckily I think Kerry is going to beat him pretty handily, but it is shiveringly feverful to imagine that he might not.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know about handily. Less than a month to go and Bush is still ahead in polls that take into consideration the electoral college.

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

The polls are showing it as too close to call (if you go to electoral-vote.com, anything in the "Barely" categories should be properly read as a tie, due to the standard deviation), but most polls don't take into account new voters (of which there are astonishing sums, at lesat in the swing states -- I was just doing some research on this for work, and even as of the end of August, Florida, to pick a swing state at semirandom, is up from 7 million registered voters in 2000 to going on 10 million; Oregon had 1.7 million in 2000 and should be well over 2 million by now).

The polls also don't consider people who only have cell phones, which is weird.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

And I'm willing to bet a significant number of new voters registered only in order to vote Bush out.

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

That is the theory.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I am cautiously optimistic but only just. I would rather be pleasantly surprised than unpleasantly.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

yup, as Chris said, the polls don't consider folks with cell phones...which probably comprises a large segment of new voters, too.

― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:42 (twenty-one years ago)

anyobody see Trudea on PBS? One of the most interesting interviews I've ever seen.

― Symplistic (shmuel), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there a transcript anywhere? Ummm...aside from sending $5 to the station?

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

he was on Charlie Rose Monday night - it was interesting, but I wouldn't go that far

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

It was one of the most interesting interviews I've ever seen over the past week.
I forgot to add that part.

― Symplistic (shmuel), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Today's link:

http://www.journalstar.com/articles/2004/08/19/letters/doc412532f09fbbe438621096.txt

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 14 October 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

"We owe Mark Slackmeyer a tall cold one."

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 14 October 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 14 October 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...

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― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Friday, 29 October 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

one thing i love about ILX is that it's clear that everyone seems to read the comics page. I swear I thought I was the only one.

― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Friday, 29 October 2004 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

Distracting use of perspective in today's.

Also, holy fuck.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Saturday, 25 February 2006 18:48 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

OK, so how about today's revelation about what's been eat BD for the last couple of weeks.

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― Ed (dali), Thursday, 27 April 2006 10:00 (twenty years ago)

This is a long way from hanging out ion no-man's land with Phred.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 27 April 2006 10:01 (twenty years ago)

God I love this comic strip.

― Dan (Awesome) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 April 2006 10:25 (twenty years ago)

Remember a couple of months ago when BD was 'testing' his counsellor with a story of throwing VCs out of helicopters?

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:56 (twenty years ago)

Pretty striking strip today, if you've been following the story. I don't recall Trudeau ever going with one panel, let alone one without any dialogue. "BUDDA-BUDDA-BUD!" seems like a conscious reference to Sgt. Rock-styled war comics.

― brianiast (briania), Thursday, 27 April 2006 12:12 (twenty years ago)

eleven months pass...

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― Ed, Sunday, 1 April 2007 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

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Thanks to Congress!

― Nathan, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...

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This week promises to be good.

― Ed, Monday, 20 August 2007 06:13 (eighteen years ago)

that is awesome...

― stevie, Monday, 20 August 2007 10:36 (eighteen years ago)

three months pass...

Something tells me Ray isn't going to get off as light as BD.

― Oilyrags, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 00:38 (eighteen years ago)

Oof. Yes.

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 00:49 (eighteen years ago)

http://astore.amazon.com/ucomicscom/detail/0740769456/

Their book of correspondence from active duty folks.

― kingfish, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 01:42 (eighteen years ago)

Ray's fine!

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

BAIT AND SWITCH!

― Oilyrags, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

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― kingfish, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 04:42 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

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― gabbneb, Thursday, 28 February 2008 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

ah, boomers

― gff, Thursday, 28 February 2008 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

eight months pass...

so has either the McCain or Obama non-caricatures been shown yet?

― obama cyber leader (kingfish), Sunday, 2 November 2008 21:06 (seventeen years ago)

i don't think so but I know the strip is proceeding with the assumption that obama wins

― akm, Sunday, 2 November 2008 21:10 (seventeen years ago)

three weeks pass...

The Sarah Palin Doll has provided some laffs, starting back when:

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― Brotherhood of Stealing Shit to Sell to Trader Caravans (kingfish), Thursday, 27 November 2008 19:47 (seventeen years ago)

to this week:

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― Brotherhood of Stealing Shit to Sell to Trader Caravans (kingfish), Thursday, 27 November 2008 19:48 (seventeen years ago)

six months pass...

And it begins again:

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― kingfish, Friday, 29 May 2009 20:27 (seventeen years ago)

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― kingfish, Friday, 29 May 2009 20:28 (seventeen years ago)

five months pass...

I haven't read Doonesbury in a long time...does Obama have a little symbol (such as the past's waffle or cowboy hat)?

― we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Friday, 30 October 2009 21:08 (sixteen years ago)

nope, no symbol as of yet

― (oh PORRIDGE) (HI DERE), Friday, 30 October 2009 21:11 (sixteen years ago)

i vote for a floating nobel peace prize

― da croupier, Friday, 30 October 2009 23:24 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

Really love how two seemingly unrelated storylines suddenly snapped together.

― WmC, Friday, 4 December 2009 18:22 (sixteen years ago)

He's been doing that for the past what, six weeks I think? First with Joanie's son and the recovering female vet from BD's counseling center, now here; it's some pretty great plotting all around.

― Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Friday, 4 December 2009 18:26 (sixteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

Alex is the best of the newer characters IMO

― Baron Strange of Knockin (DJP), Thursday, 11 November 2010 17:10 (fifteen years ago)

six years pass...

I guess this will be the first president to appear straight-up as himself in the strip.

― pplains, Sunday, 15 January 2017 03:55 (nine years ago)

three years pass...

https://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/2020/12/20

― Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 20 December 2020 17:40 (five years ago)

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