who was it that defined heterosexual sex as envelopment by a woman rather than penetration by a man?

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simple question requires simples answer for a critical endavour. my tanks in presumption.

― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:03 (twenty-two years ago)

no-one?

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

no, i'm certain i've come across it.

― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Never heard that before, but it sounds a lot better.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:16 (twenty-two years ago)

LOCK THREAD

(xpost dammit)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

and i come like a tank, too.

― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)

with soldiers inside you.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:20 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, NOW LOCK THREAD

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)

re: envelopment - only if woman is on top, and "in charge"

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

― gaga (Oops), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I see Moe from the 3 Stooges puckering up to kiss his clone. What does this say about me Doctor?

― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I know Gloria Steinem has used the term, but I don't know if she was the first.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

tokyo rosemary,

I heard this idea about 12 years ago and assume it's older than that. Whe did it first appear on your radar?

― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)

This all sounds fine to me.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe last week?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 21:59 (twenty-two years ago)

i recognised it there and that's why it's fresh. cheers to those who took my question seriously - balls and labia to the rest of you!

― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, I think I read it in a Ms magazine in about 1990 or so. Or maybe one of Steinem's books? I don't remember.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Either Steinem or Stevem, anyway.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Gloria Stevem. Hmmmmm. It could be his drag name.

― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Luce Irigaray? I think it's a French feminist thing.

― ilovehpl, Thursday, 22 April 2004 01:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Eminem?

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 22 April 2004 08:27 (twenty-two years ago)

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