― media insider, Thursday, 22 April 2004 08:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 22 April 2004 08:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 22 April 2004 08:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 22 April 2004 08:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 22 April 2004 08:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 22 April 2004 08:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Prude (Prude), Thursday, 22 April 2004 08:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 22 April 2004 09:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 22 April 2004 09:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 22 April 2004 09:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 22 April 2004 09:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 22 April 2004 09:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 22 April 2004 09:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 22 April 2004 09:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― thing of thing, Thursday, 22 April 2004 09:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 22 April 2004 09:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 22 April 2004 13:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 22 April 2004 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 22 April 2004 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 22 April 2004 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)
And you have hers?
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 22 April 2004 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Johnney B (Johnney B), Thursday, 22 April 2004 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 22 April 2004 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 April 2004 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)
Tracer is correct.
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 22 April 2004 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)
It's especially hard when you hear somebody (who does not know the person they are talking about) say something innaccurate or clueless about that person. I try very hard to bite my tongue but do not succeed as often as I should. The bit about the home phone is a pretty good rule, except for people who used to be friends and the circles have since moved away, but you were in the same circle for a significant amount of time.
― Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 23 April 2004 01:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Super-Kate (kate), Friday, 23 April 2004 06:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 23 April 2004 09:29 (twenty-two years ago)
so it totally doesn't work on me. this probably means that i, not the name dropper, am the dud.
― colette (a2lette), Friday, 23 April 2004 09:35 (twenty-two years ago)
Best idea evah!
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 23 April 2004 09:36 (twenty-two years ago)
(God this thread just reminds me how glad I am to be out of the music industry...)
― Super-Kate (kate), Friday, 23 April 2004 09:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Friday, 23 April 2004 09:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― splatter, Friday, 23 April 2004 10:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― penelope_11, Friday, 23 April 2004 10:37 (twenty-two years ago)
Good name-dropping is done with a slight acknowledgement of the "strangeness" of knowing the person whose name is dropped. Not that it is strange in itself, but name-dropping by definition is done in the company of those who are more removed from said celeb than the speaker. Purposefully ignoring that fact aligns the speaker closely with the celeb at the expense of the listener. I.e. the speaker affirms his/her position above and apart from the listener in whatever sphere.
― Clarke B. (Clarke B.), Friday, 23 April 2004 11:18 (twenty-two years ago)
I certainly wouldn't feel angry or annoyed, just cringey, squirmy feelings on their behalf.
It's also damn rude when done to someone in an attempt to make them feel like an outsider or excluded in some way. I've seen this happen and it's pathetic.
― penelope_11, Friday, 23 April 2004 11:27 (twenty-two years ago)
I feel sorry for them more than I hate them.
― Super-Kate (kate), Friday, 23 April 2004 11:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 23 April 2004 11:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 23 April 2004 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Clarke B. (Clarke B.), Friday, 23 April 2004 12:08 (twenty-two years ago)
absolutely
― Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Friday, 23 April 2004 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 23 April 2004 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Super-Kate (kate), Friday, 23 April 2004 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Friday, 23 April 2004 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 23 April 2004 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 23 April 2004 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― penelope_11, Friday, 23 April 2004 13:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 23 April 2004 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Super-Kate (kate), Friday, 23 April 2004 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)
Back when I was in the Ska band I mentioned before, today, our 'leader' decided that everyone should do a questionaire regarding themselves, and one of the categories was 'claim to fame' sort of thing. (It was meant to be put together for a promo handout for getting gigs, I think it was just so everyone could know each other better, fair enough).
So anyhow, singer had but down the 'famous' people he'd met. JB being one, and how he'd shaken his withered hand. "Oh, you have as well", said I (I hadn;t added this on my sheet btw.) "I did at a quiz night thing, how did you?" "umm, I didn't actually, I just went to a garden fete he opened."
(After this incident, we also got told how he was a close personal friend of Paul Weller, and the tales just came coming. All bullshit and quite obviously so...)
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 23 April 2004 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 23 April 2004 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 April 2004 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 23 April 2004 16:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 April 2004 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 23 April 2004 16:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 April 2004 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)
OK, about the "bitchiness" comments, maybe the original anon question was bitchy, but for the most part there has been a refreshing lack of bitchiness in the rest of it. Bitchiness is common to all walks of life, but namedropping thrives in only certain circumstances. I've been either in on the fringes of various music scenes and/or the music "business" and unfortunately, I've met so many chronic namedroppers that perhaps I'm more sensitised.
It's an interesting question! What exactly is namedropping? Is it something definable, or is it in the eye of the beholder? And is it necessarily bad, and if not under what circumstances is it acceptable and why? Why does it irritate people, if it does?
We've already drawn a line with "it's not namedropping if you have their home phone number" or the idea that it's not namedropping if it is actually business. (Though to be honest, in my experience, the more a record company person namedrops, the lower down on the ladder they actually are.)
But what about the line between namedropping and gossip? I keep thinking about that, and the conclusion I've drawn is that gossip is a mutual, participatory action. It's a social exchange that involves two people sharing information on an equal footing. "Chronic" namedropping is an exclusionary, dominance-asserting activity. It's one person trying to place themselves above the other by closer proximity to the object of discussion.
So that's why I can be OK with gossip, and still be irritated by namedropping.
Anyway... sorry, you know how interesting this whole area is to me, where social interaction is shaped by the whole new religion of celebrity mythology.
― Super-Kate (kate), Friday, 23 April 2004 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)
Just the bartender guy with dreads. I mentioned that once and you said never ever to post them! So I haven't.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 April 2004 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 23 April 2004 17:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 April 2004 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)
i wish i didn't have the occasional temptation to do it myself
― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 16:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)
sort of.. men are not allowed to approach women (unless they're previously acquainted, of course). one of the other house rules is "no starfucking," which means don't try to talk to anyone famous who might be there.
― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)
i'm glad i don't know anyone famous
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― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)
The guy's a complete tool.
― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― Towelette Pettatucci (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jeremy P1ven (Mark C), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)
i like cute celebrity anecdotes in the same way i like small children -- they're charming in small doses, but if i had to be around them all the time i'd kill myself.
― A. Atom Gorgon (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Towelette Pettatucci (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)
Namedropping pitifully non-famous people: Classic.
― Stephen X (Stephen X), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)
Seth Green or Seth Cohen? Or Seth Mnookin? Or Seth?
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― shookout (shookout), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)
Did I mention this guy would make a pass at me years later at a different bar while I was taking a piss?
Anyway, while no Los Angeles peeps on ILX would qualify by any means, I have met a lot of people who live in remote parts of greater L.A. who complete trump their social skills by chronically namedropping. It's a weird form of justifying their worth, which is sad, because they'd be ten times more worthy if they just were comfortable with themselves and didn't really care too much about which famous actors or musicians that they said hello to at the local donut shop on Sherman Way or whatever.
― donut christ (donut), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut christ (donut), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― sugarpants (sugarpants), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)
You'd better hope that it's just their shoulders.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 11 February 2005 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)
but it's a big peeve of mine when band bios are only made up of namedropping and say absolutely nothing about anything. i read one recently that started off by going into the career of the artist's dad since he was some shitty industry guy in the 70's and managed x, y, z. or some band on myspace that asked me to add them that keeps repeating how they're working with a producer that worked with the pixies. the person tries to appear bigger but ends up seeming so pathetic in how far they have to reach to find names.
― lolita corpus (lolitacorpus), Friday, 11 February 2005 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)
Haha, you're gonna have to elaborate on "big" for me, given the context ;)
I'm surely guilty of namedropping to impress years ago, and probably occasionally do it today, though I'm far more conscious of it now.
But to play devil's advocate, I have no problems with namedropping if the "known" person(s) involved is/are part of a very entertaining story that's about to be told.
I think namedropping is just a colloquialism associated with people who do nothing BUT namedrop to justify how cool they are. And yes, such people can be annoying after a short time. Definitively speaking, namedropping is harmless, and it is a small world, so it's inevitable.
I'm more annoyed by people who harumph at someone who mentioned someone famous, and who want to "out" namedroppers moreso than the chronic namedroppers themselves.
― donut christ (donut), Friday, 11 February 2005 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 11 February 2005 21:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Friday, 11 February 2005 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)
unless they are momus, who's managed to carry it on well past 40.
― namedrop (not entirely unhappy), Saturday, 12 February 2005 10:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Momus (Momus), Saturday, 12 February 2005 13:08 (twenty-one years ago)
I think this was back when I thought that Seth Cohen was the name of the actor on The OC and not the character.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 20:10 (eighteen years ago)