premiership 03-04: your team of the season, informed by sentiment

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i'm not choosing a keeper because i didn't like any
john terry joathan woodgate, sol campbell, ashley cole
pires, frank lampard, patrick viera, steven gerrard
alan smith, terry henry

substitutes include peter crouch for that incredible, ridiculous thumbs up gesture when he scored the other week.

― matthew james (matthew james), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 00:15 (twenty-two years ago)

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And any other ten footballers.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 00:25 (twenty-two years ago)

GK - Cudicini (I feel bad for him, still the best keeper in the Premiership by some distance but that gaffe against Arsenal will stick with him - plus the injuries have cut short what could be his last season as 1st choice keeper)

LB - Wayne Bridge - Damn all these new England players coming of age and making my antipathy towards Chelsea thaw!

CENTRAL DEFENDERS - Terry (he's just looked fucking solid every time I've seen him this season and bodes well for Euro 2004), King (just so he can finally play in a flat back four for once)

RB - Carr (I'll miss him next year)

MIDFIELD - Parker (at Charlton - he's the player that made the Boxing Day defeat of Chelsea happen and it made me so happy), Gerrard (has just looked fucking great - can he stay this shit-hot until the summer?), Robert (one man goal-of-the-season contest), Malbranque (can he possibly stay at Fulham after the season he's had).

STRIKERS - Robbie Keane, Jermaine Defoe. Obviously. Sorry Fredi, you blew it on Sunday.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 07:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Lehmann
Gary Neville Terry Gallas Ashley Cole
Duff Vieira Roy Keane Pires
Henry DiCanio

― Joe Kay (feethurt), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 10:22 (twenty-two years ago)

gary neville?

― matthew james (matthew james), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 11:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, Gary Neville
One of the most important factors in football now is how much support your full-backs give to the attack. Gary is (like Ashley Cole) always ready to make an overlapping run when United are attacking on the right. Look how much Carragher's lack of interest in going forward has cost Liverpool.
He does make the occasional mistake, I'll admit, but I like the way he never hides, and will come back demanding the ball again a minute after making a fool of himself.

― Joe Kay (feethurt), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 11:33 (twenty-two years ago)

niemi

carr
terry
toure
bridge

pires
vieira
lampard
duff

henry
shearer

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Tim Howard

Gary Neville (damn right)
Wesley Brown
Mikael Silvestre
John O'Shea

Cristiano Ronaldo
Roy Keane
Paul Scholes
Ryan Giggs

Ruud van Nistelrooy
Ole Gunnar Solksjaer

Jesus, this is so far from being the best 11 in the Premiership this year (unlike previous years), but it's still my 11. I might put 3 or 4 in a more objective 11 if I was being generous (Howard, Neville, Ronaldo, RVN).

― James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 12:18 (twenty-two years ago)

GK - Sorenson

RB - Carragher
CB - Southgate
CB - Terry
LB - Bridge

LWM - Solano
LCM - Gerrard
RCM - Izzet
RWM - Wright-Phillips
CAM - Defoe

ST - Henry

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 16:22 (twenty-two years ago)

you can never go wrong with 4-5-1

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

you could say sir alex went wrong with 4-5-1. then he bought saha and he's still fucked. if these rumours about keano to celtic are true then we finally watched manchester united dissolve into irrelevence, which wold be beautiful.

― matthew james (matthew james), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, it was kind funny when Saha started slagging off Van Nistelrooy.

Dalmat has left Spurs :(

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

(oh yeah, my love of 4-5-1 mainly stems from video games, where crosses and scoring from diagonals always proves more successful than the patient passing game, and stops you getting overrun in midfield)

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

The shout for Gary Neville is a good one. There is no more richly entertaining sight in football than him with his head in his hands.

I can't be too smug - there's no City player in sight here. OK, SWP, but apart from him, I don't love any of those mugs at the mo.

I'm sorry to hear that Dalmat has left Spurs. No Spurs fan myself, but he looked such a great player.

Early candidate for next year's edition of this thread: Rivaldo?

― Daniel (dancity), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

ST - Henry

Judas.

Dalmat kind of fell by the wayside a bit towards the end, didn't he?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

God I miss football.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

4-5-1

kiely

bridge
terry
toure
carr

pires
vieira
lampard
gerrard
parker

henry

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 20:46 (twenty-two years ago)

haha jel come to the dark side.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 20:57 (twenty-two years ago)

certainly pleasing to see so many england players in the XI's. disappointing that no-one sees that alan smith has worked more tirelessly than any other footballer across europe, even if it is clearly around little more than reserves.
also surprised there's no talk of paul robinson to arsenal. surely more reliable and plainly a better keeper than lehmann, and (lord god it pains me to say) avaliably on the cheap once we're in the noddywide.

― matthew james (matthew james), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 21:01 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, i am slightly drunk and unable to field a full team, but where is the smith, malbranque, forrsell love?

― gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm noticing a distinct lack of the Ivan in these teams.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 22:02 (twenty-two years ago)

God I miss football.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 22:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Malbranque is on my team...

Robinson is still going to Spurs, unless Leeds decide they no longer need to flog him for next to nothing and ramp the price up. Forssell is at Birmingham for another year - Chelsea are clearly being charitable, and possibly a bit silly.

Rivaldo = next season's Jay Jay Okocha. Injured for months on end then flashes of sublime magic from there on.

Manyoo being fucked has nothing to do with Saha - they'd have been considerably worse off without him especially once the wheels came off the Ruud Goal Machine.

Where's Smith going then? He can't possibly be going to Newcastle with all the other Reid-era players, can he?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 07:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Niemi

Johnson, Campbell, Terry, Cole

Vieira, Gerrard

Pires, Duff

Henry, Reyes

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 07:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Alan Smith should sit on the bench. No Dido daters in this team.

My own tuppeney's worth would be a mention for Kevin Nolan. With consistency he could be truly great. Plays second fiddle to Okocha's headline grabbing, but he gets more goals per season and his passing can be astonishing.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 08:32 (twenty-two years ago)

"Dido dating"? Surely Alan Smith didn't boff Dido?

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 08:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Dido is dating Smithy
By Rav Singh and Polly Graham
IT is with utter amazement we announce an unlikely union between DIDO and Leeds United star ALAN SMITH.
The couple have already enjoyed a dinner date after she developed a huge crush on the striker.
They plan another meal when she returns from work in New York.
They make the oddest couple we can think of.
She's the squeaky-clean, sweet-voiced singer whose real name is Florian Cloud de Bounevialle Armstrong...he's a bleach-haired bad boy known as Smithy.
Dido, 32, is an Arsenal fan and has a soft spot for footballers—though they are a world away from her usual high-brow beaus such as record boss FERDIE UNGER-HAMILTON and ex-fiancé BOB PAGE, a lawyer.
A friend said: "Dido's always had a bit of a thing for Alan. Word got back to him and it all took off from there.
"They had planned to meet this weekend because Leeds were in London to play Arsenal, but Dido had to go to the States so they had to put that on hold.
"The relationship is just a bit of fun for both of them. Alan split from his girlfriend recently so is also young, free and single."
Since splitting with Ferdie last year Dido has been, well, playing the field.
She went for eye-candy when she dated Canadian model RODNEY WEBBER. Their fling lasted just two months but she did take him to the wedding of brother ROLLO.
Temper
Most recently she was seen stepping out with on/off love Ferdie on their way to see Arsenal near Dido's £2million north London home.
Dido's earned a bit of fun with the boys. Her album Life For Rent was Britain's biggest-selling CD of 2003 and has shifted eight million copies.
Debut No Angel sold more than 12 million. Smith, who is nine years younger than Dido, is an England international but more famous for his temper than his skills.

He got in trouble last year when he hurled back a plastic bottle thrown on the pitch and hit his best friend's sister in the face.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 08:38 (twenty-two years ago)

GK Lehmann

RB Toure
CB Cambell
CB Terry
LB Cole

LM Pires
CM Viera
CM Gerrard
RM Lampard

F Henry
F Shearer

Substitutes
Howard, Keane, Ronaldo, Giggs, Parker, Reyes

I didn't include Desailly, cause he's a fuckin' lazy nigger.

― pingu, Wednesday, 28 April 2004 08:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Dalmat apparently spat at Redknapp, squared up to Carr, twatted a youth team player and had loads of rows with Pleat. Hence he was told to fuck off.

― Nick H (Nick H), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 11:34 (twenty-two years ago)

clearly, dalmat is to be sir alex's long term replacement for roy keane.

― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)

if these rumours about keano to celtic are true then we finally watched manchester united dissolve into irrelevence, which wold be beautiful.

Matthew, don't you support....Leeds?

― James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 12:55 (twenty-two years ago)

What about a Nationwide Division One team of the season?

I'm thinking a team based around Andy Reid, Robert Earnshaw, Ricardo Fuller, Andy Johnson, Danny Gabbidon, Matty Etherington, Tim Cahill, the Norwich keeper, Phil Jaglieka.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)

james, is it so terrifically obvious? am i so wrong to be bitter? would be not be universlly hated for out continuing sucess if cantona had stayed?

last year when they went out of the champs league to real there was a glass raised at the family dinner table. "to the scummers out of europe!"

― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 13:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I was thinking more of the irony involved in using the phrase "dissolving into irrelevance".

― James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

it was an irony i am fully, fully aware of.
mainly, i'm amused by the unshakeable war of the roses. i love going to family weddings between someone from my family and a lancastrian. there's something seething away ther ein the background.

leeds are not irrelevant, though - we will continue to be a parable, whilse man u wil probably get as boring as liverpool. or southampton!

― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 15:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I still harbour hopes of Henry signing for Spurs when he's like 36 or something.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 15:49 (twenty-two years ago)

oh yeah, Dalmat had a training ground bust up with a youth team player. Andy Reid of Forest is maybe coming to Spurs, I wish they'd sign Muzzy Izzet.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

by the looks of it henry'll be heading to bolton some day.

― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Kiely
Carragher
Southgate
Terry
Bridge
Pires
Lampard
Gerrard
Scholes
Henry

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

GK Robinson

RB Bridge
CB Toure
CB Terry
LB Cole

LM Pires
CM Duff
CM Gerrard
RM Lampard

F Smith
F Henry

― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I note that Stevem has gone for the not terribly popular 4-4-1 formation.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:12 (twenty-two years ago)

'Cause Carragher's just that good.

― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:13 (twenty-two years ago)

his 11th player must be Veron.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)

i guess Shearer up front with Henry then

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 18:15 (twenty-two years ago)

but teams play better with ten as has been demonstrated time and time again

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 18:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Does that logic continue? I mean, if you didn't field anyone are you guaranteed a victory?

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

it worked for sheffield united, get your men sent off, and the game is abandoned

― gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 21:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Not quite the same thing. If you had no players on the pitch, you couldn't kick off after the first goal against you, though.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 21:19 (twenty-two years ago)

i can't believe anyone could have any affection for shearer
he's the stephen hendry of football
are spurs still going to sign diego?
he's an absolutely incredible player,he'd really sort them out

― robin (robin), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 23:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Not sure he's a Premiership player, though. A little lightweight. Anyone know what happened to D'Allesandro? Did he twat off to Germany or somewhere? My, I miss him.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 08:09 (twenty-two years ago)

i read that as 'are Spurs still going to San Diego' and wondered if this meant they were the new Wimblekeynes

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)

If you had no players on the pitch, you couldn't kick off after the first goal against you, though.
This actually happened in extra time in a Gaelic Football match between Cork and Dublin a few years ago.
The match ended in a draw, and Cork believed it was supposed to go to extra time, while Dublin thought it was to go to a replay, and refused to appear for extra time. The referee threw the ball in, a Cork player got it, and after an intricate passing move, Cork scored a goal.
(but in Scotland vs. Estonia a few years ago, Scotland just kicked off, and didn't bother scoring a goal)

― Joe Kay (feethurt), Thursday, 29 April 2004 15:17 (twenty-two years ago)

If the present Scottish team kicked off against no-one, they would probably be pleased with a draw.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)

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