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Is it really true that ALL Jewish boys MUST be circumcised? and how is it done?

― Danutz Ioanitescu, Wednesday, 28 April 2004 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, and with a nailcutter

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)

i do it with my compass

― jewish maths teacher (ken c), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Cigar cutter.

I've cannot say this word, not imagine the cutter, without wincing. I blame MI:2

― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)

In all seriousness, should I go for it? I'm uncut, no girl has ever complained about it, and it makes wanking a BREEZE, but I really want to try something new this year. Eh?

― LC, Wednesday, 28 April 2004 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

i cut out the skin, then sew it back on, and cut it out again.

― jewish haberdasher (ken c), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

In all seriousness, should I go for it? I'm uncut, no girl has ever complained about it

it'd be a bit harsh to complain without seeing first.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Is a smeg free life a fair trade for chafed knob-end?

― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

rather dead than smeg!

― rimmer (ken c), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Smegma, how you've eluded me. I've never had smegma, or foot odor, and without deodorant I can sweat quite a bit and still smell like shampoo. I am basically, secretion-wise, a teenaged girl. With foreskin.

― LC, Wednesday, 28 April 2004 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)

i can send some to you by post, if you like

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)

im quite happy with my circumsized penis. i like the turtleneck it rocks.

― Chris 'The Velvet Bingo' V (Chris V), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 16:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Hello googlers!

― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 16:07 (twenty-two years ago)

chris at a bar: hey lady my turtleneck goes so well with your v-neck, fancy trying it on?

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

LC, that may be the greatest post you've made to date.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

We have a baby boy and had to decide whether to cut or not to cut. We didn't cut, figuring he could make that choice later for himself. I had read that uncircumcised men can give women some kind of cervical virus, but then I talked to my MD brother and he said that's just a matter of keeping your dick clean. My bro's a pediatrician and says that with boys these days it's about 50-50 (cut-uncut), so it's not such a potential locker-room embarrassment issue as it used to be for "headless horseman" since most American boys used to get circumsised. When I heard that you lose some sensitivity in your penis from circumcision, I thought it would be really cruel to that to my son without any say from him.

― Maria D., Wednesday, 28 April 2004 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, apparently it is more pleasurable to keep it in tact. Don't do it, LC.
There is another thread where I talked about people trying to grow their foreskins back.

― Magic City (ano ano), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Why the fucking hell would ANY parent want to cut the end of their young son's penis off?

Oh yes, religion.

(Hey, someone invented soap! It keeps things clean!)

― mei (mei), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)

my dad took the skin from my brother's and my circumcisions and made them into wallets.

when you rub them they turn into suitcases

(shit, i've already used that bad joke on this board)

― JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

GODD DOS IT

― dean!dean!dean (deangulberry), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)

this company i used to work for turned discarded foreskins into artificial skin grafts.

http://www.organogenesis.com/content/proddescrp_how.htm

― AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 19:29 (twenty-two years ago)

so look at it that way. every time you get a circumcision, you help a skin ulcer patient!

― AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 19:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Carries the concept of recycling a stretch too far.....

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)

The slight loss of sensitivity has an obvious and cool flip-side to it though.....

― don (don), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

these puns make my skin crawl

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 19:39 (twenty-two years ago)

The slight loss of sensitivity has an obvious and cool flip-side to it though.....

Yeah: It doesn't hurt nearly as much when you accidentally get the fucker caught in your zipper.

― martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 19:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh I don't know.

Smegma is there for a reason. It's good for you. (Too much of a good thing, though, etc.) And a circumcisions are botched with surprising frequency.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I had read that uncircumcised men can give women some kind of cervical virus

There is a small but statistically significant link between uncircumcized men and cervical cancer in their female partners. However, as several people have mentioned, basic hygiene on his part does a lot to counteract this. And the purpose of regular Pap tests is to test for cervical cancer in her.

― j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, unchopped males can have problems if they never ever clean
themselves, but then they're headed for trouble anyway.

If there's no pressing need, just go ahead and leave em with what
they're born with, I say. And the "loss of sensitivity" thing is
a myth, or so I've read.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 29 April 2004 05:20 (twenty-two years ago)

It's not so much a myth as something unknowable. Since it's not that easy to compare growing up with a cut penis vs. growing up with an uncut penis -- either you have one or the other. (If you cut it later in life, that is obv different since part of the whole idea is that your glans is left unprotected to get all callused and whatnot.)

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 29 April 2004 05:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I would trade having to wash more vigorously for the ability to be in a European sauna without someone staring at my unit.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Thursday, 29 April 2004 06:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Apparently the American mania for circumcision was borne of late 19th century anti-masturbation campaigns (at the time, masturbation was blamed for pretty much everything from baldness to homosexuality to cross-eyed babies). Casting about for an effective solution to the plague of self-abuse, moral crusaders hit on circumcision. Over time, it also became a mark of social status, to distinguish WASPs from all those dirty immigrants. It's all detailed pretty well here.

Having grown up uncircumcised in America in the 1970s and '80s (thanks to progressive weirdo parents), I have to say that it made me self-conscious at an early age (in my elementary school, we started showering together after gym class in 4th grade, and I was always acutely aware of being "different," even though in retrospect I have no idea if anyone ever noticed). But whatever, I survived it intact (ba-dum-bum). I can't imagine subjecting any future child of mine to a knife.

― spittle (spittle), Thursday, 29 April 2004 06:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Am I the only American who never had to shower naked-style with other kids in school? I keep hearing about this (and in 6th grade it freaked me out that it might start happening any moment now) but the threat never materialized.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 29 April 2004 07:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, now that I think about it, it seems kind of weird, like there was some ulterior social engineering motive to force the boys (and girls, but separately of course) to see each other naked starting in preteen years and continuing through puberty. I don't know. Maybe it was intended to have some kind of bonding effect. I was too focused on not letting anyone see my foreskin to do much bonding.

― spittle (spittle), Thursday, 29 April 2004 08:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Chris: I think you are.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:57 (twenty-two years ago)

No, Chris wasn't the only one.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

It's not so much a myth as something unknowable.

Actually, there are some men who have been circumcized after beginning their sex lives. But reports on their post-foreskins sex experience suggest it's neither significantly worse or better.

― j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 29 April 2004 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I remember being told before entering 6th grade that we would have to engage in communal showering, but, likewise, it never happened. there were showers and you could shower if you wanted to, but no one ever did. i think the faculty finally realized how fucking weird and possible traumatic it is to have pubescent boys showering together.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 29 April 2004 15:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I remember us showering with our bathing suits on after swimming, in middle school... and I guess we must have showered naked after sports... but certainly no one was staring at anyone's penis... if anything, everyone was concentrating on facing the wall, and getting it over with as soon as possible. Even the slight locker room hazing/bullying that the older kids (8th graders) put a few of us 7th graders through after/before football practice never involved nakedness or shower antics (although I have heard of horror stories to that effect in the news, on Oprah, etc.).

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Thursday, 29 April 2004 15:30 (twenty-two years ago)

We had public showers in my middle school/high school and I remember being really scared about this before starting there. However, I remember it being fine; I think everyone was equally freaked out and thus no one really acted like it was unusual.

― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 29 April 2004 15:33 (twenty-two years ago)

(J.Lu: Yes, but the theory is that the foreskin helps keep the glans from being chafed and thus cut men get callused and thus desensitized. So if you get cut when you're 25 then it's more about whether you get the same pleasure after 2 decades of calluses and by that time there are so many other factors involved...)

(Either way this seems to me like it's not something your parents should get to decide for you!)

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 29 April 2004 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)

"callused"

― EW EW EW EW EW (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 April 2004 17:28 (twenty-two years ago)

"MMMM...leathery."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 April 2004 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I say it's child abuse. Leave your kid alone, that's his privates and not yours to fuck about with.

― CRW (CRW), Thursday, 29 April 2004 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

OH WOW BEST POST EVER!!!!

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 April 2004 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

"Dad, I really wish you'd stop using my dick to sleep around!"

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 April 2004 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

King Missile was more prescient than they knew.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 April 2004 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Just to repeat this again:

Ned - too chicken to meet me to my face. Still gets lippy to me on LIX. Guy is a coward. No wonder he prefers debating with names on an internet forum. It's safer for him. I feel sorry for the guy though.

― CRW (CRW), Thursday, 29 April 2004 17:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Was Ned even talking to you?

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 April 2004 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll e-mail you, about june, c-man.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 29 April 2004 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Still gets lippy to me on LIX

Somehow this is telling.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 April 2004 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Nope. Too cowardly to even reply to an email with, "thanks for the invite, but I'm not really sure I can face meeting you as, judging you as an ANONYMOUS NAME ON AN INTERNET FORUM, I think we might end up hating each other". Me personally, I'm the sociable type. I like to meet anyone and everyone, but that's just me, you know?

― CRW (CRW), Thursday, 29 April 2004 17:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not some dweeb who spends all day on ILX when I live in fucking LA. Ned, dude, what the fuck are you doing? I don't think I switched onto the internet (email aside) once for all the time I was there. Do you want me to hook you up with some cool people and get you on this cool invite list I have for clubs up on the Strip? Man, you're in LA!!!!

― CRW (CRW), Thursday, 29 April 2004 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

By the way - that was genuine Ned, I think you should be out in that superb city of yours more often.

― CRW (CRW), Thursday, 29 April 2004 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

this is like when doomie and i made up!

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 29 April 2004 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.dacre.org/flash/www/us101115.jpg

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 April 2004 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned's into Suede so I figured he'd be alright, but he keeps dogging my threads and slagging me off which I take insult to when he didn't even reply to an offer of a friendly pint, you know? Says a lot about him in my opinion.

― CRW (CRW), Thursday, 29 April 2004 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, it is true that if you are a Jew or a Muslim you must be circumcised. It is usually handled with a hot knife, cold heart and clear conscience.

― Pinche Pendejo (Pinche Pendejo), Thursday, 29 April 2004 21:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Dear Mr. "I'm too good to call or write my fans"
This'll be the last package I ever send your ass.
It's been six months and still no word. I don't
deserve it?
I know you got my last two letters, I wrote the
addresses on 'em perfect.

So this is my cassette I'm sending you. I hope you
hear it.
I'm in the car right now. I'm doing 90 on the freeway.
Hey Ned, "I drank a fifth of vodka, ya dare me to
drive?"
You know that song by Phil Collins from "The Air In
The Night"?
About that guy who could have saved that other guy
from drowning?
But didn't? Then Phil saw it all then at his show he
found him?
That's kinda how this is. You could have rescued me
from drowning.
Now it's too late. I'm on a thousand downers now, I'm
drowsy.

And all I wanted was a lousy letter or a call.
I hope you know I ripped all o' your pictures off the
wall.
I love you Ned, we could have been together. Think
about it.
You ruined it now, I hope you can't sleep and you
dream about it.
And when you dream, I hope you can't sleep and you
scream about it.
I hope your conscious eats at you and you can't
breathe without me.

― C? (Nicole), Friday, 30 April 2004 03:16 (twenty-two years ago)

ha ha, mark s! you fool! I WAS ALWAYS YR FRIEND. I JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE SHAPE-SHIFTING POWERS!

― doomie x, Saturday, 1 May 2004 06:59 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...

haha this thread took quite a turn - did you ever meet up with CRW? (kcrw? was it nic harcourt?)

― timmy tannin (pompous), Sunday, 7 January 2007 07:37 (nineteen years ago)

I abstained from that particular pleasure.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 January 2007 07:42 (nineteen years ago)

chris doridas

― remybean (bean), Sunday, 7 January 2007 09:15 (nineteen years ago)

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