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Gareth arrives in a few days, for one night only, as far as I can tell. I'll be there! Gareth will be there! Will you be there?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 30 April 2004 23:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Probably not! You probably don't even live here!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 30 April 2004 23:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Gareth, I tell you! Gareth! In Portland!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 1 May 2004 00:42 (twenty-two years ago)

He's on a plane right now! To Seattle! And after a few days of that, he'll be here! In Portland!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 1 May 2004 00:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Am I preaching to the wind?!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 1 May 2004 00:44 (twenty-two years ago)

My sister lives in Portland.

― mcd (mcd), Saturday, 1 May 2004 01:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Does she want to meet Gareth?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 1 May 2004 01:09 (twenty-two years ago)

You know, probably not. I just thought I'd help out your thread, dude.

― mcd (mcd), Saturday, 1 May 2004 01:14 (twenty-two years ago)

It's all good.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 1 May 2004 01:18 (twenty-two years ago)

My brother's going to be in Portland in June. Portland, Maine.
What does the DX mean?

― Huck, Saturday, 1 May 2004 01:19 (twenty-two years ago)

airport code, dude

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 1 May 2004 01:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I worked at Santa Fe one summer. Home of the Bonfire Margarita.

― mcd (mcd), Saturday, 1 May 2004 01:20 (twenty-two years ago)

PDX is the airport code. The X is for "Christ".

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 1 May 2004 01:20 (twenty-two years ago)

The X is for Xgau.

― mcd (mcd), Saturday, 1 May 2004 01:21 (twenty-two years ago)

That's an urban legend.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 1 May 2004 01:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Is the Portland airport the best thing about the town, like Edmonton?

― Huck, Saturday, 1 May 2004 01:23 (twenty-two years ago)

PDX is the airport code. The X is for "Christ".

Incorrect. Most current airport codes were derived from the two letter codes used by the National Weather Service. When the number of airports exceeded the number of logical two-letter codes, the three letter system was introduced. Existing two letter airport codes then had a "X" appended to it to minimize confusion. Therefore: LAX, PDX, PHX (Phoenix), JAX (Jacksonville). I think those are the only "X" codes left. A lot of the old airports don't exist anymore or their codes have changed over the years

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 1 May 2004 01:32 (twenty-two years ago)

And to further derail this thread, ILM is the Wilmington, North Carolina airport and ILE is Killeen, Texas.

There is no ILX airport

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 1 May 2004 01:43 (twenty-two years ago)

*plays air drums to Rush's "YYZ"*

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 1 May 2004 01:44 (twenty-two years ago)

In a month's time I will be in this city, and there will be occurences.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 1 May 2004 01:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I do hope you realize I was joking about the "Christ" thing...

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 1 May 2004 02:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Just for that, Jesus will NOT be appearing at the Gareth PDX FAP.

― donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 1 May 2004 03:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Jesus gets to miss out on a great breakfast, the Minor Thirds, and a dish of hazelnuts and cheese

― donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 1 May 2004 03:13 (twenty-two years ago)

and Jesus Juice

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Saturday, 1 May 2004 03:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, poot.

― Jesus (Chris Piuma), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I wish I were there. Breakfast at Zell's?

― Ryan McKay (Ryan McKay), Saturday, 1 May 2004 05:03 (twenty-two years ago)

As my roommate says, "I can think of 40 places I'd rather have breakfast in Portland than Zell's without breaking a sweat." She did it once too. Zell's gains points for being around the corner from where I live but once you leave the house you might as well walk to Junior's or J&M or even Johnny B's if you swing that way.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 1 May 2004 10:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I will be there...but not until June. And that's only if my frequent flyer stuff works out. So I can see my 300-lb. h.s. best friend get married in a kilt.

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Saturday, 1 May 2004 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Is it the last weekend in June?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 1 May 2004 16:14 (twenty-two years ago)

no, the wedding is
june 19th. so if I'm there,
I guess you won't be?

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Saturday, 1 May 2004 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)

No, no, just we have shows the last weekend in June, so that could be construed as an extra bonus thing. I'll be around (unless I'm unexpectedly whisked to Chicago or something crazy.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 1 May 2004 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)

(Also I will possibly be out in your next of the woods this summer on tour, maybe.)

In other news, the time of Gareth appoacheth.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 1 May 2004 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

This is the most exciting thing to happen in this town since the potted plant!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 1 May 2004 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

He arrives Tuesday afternoon. How can you miss out?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 2 May 2004 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Although I am potted and planted in the outlying suburbs of scintillating Portland, OR, and I grew up bicycling to the once-bland, now-trendy Hawthorne District (where I would buy comics and model airplanes with my allowance money), I am amazingly relieved to announce that I shall not be solemnizing the occasion with my over-the-hill bones on view for this FAP, nor am I likely ever to impose my swiftly aging and outmoded aura on any ILx-related or -inspired festivities hereabouts.

The relief, I am sure, is both mutual and palpable among the eagerly pairing and re-pairing generation who make up the ILx majority. Besides, I look fearfully terrifying in pedal pushers and all my other clothes are in the wash that night.

― Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 3 May 2004 03:47 (twenty-two years ago)

It's all good.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 3 May 2004 04:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Also the Hawthorne district isn't really "trendy" anymore. Alberta was the new trendy street but I think that might have even been supplanted by some new place that I am too untrendy to know about.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 3 May 2004 04:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Also they're opening a Starbucks on Seven Corners (20th & SE Division), it's really tragic.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 3 May 2004 04:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Oregon City
is the new Alberta Street!
Try to keep up, Chris.

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Monday, 3 May 2004 04:21 (twenty-two years ago)

That's right, I forgot about the new show about the OC.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 3 May 2004 04:26 (twenty-two years ago)

as if the reed students and anarchists are going to cross the street for starbucks anyway . . .

― jack cole (jackcole), Monday, 3 May 2004 05:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Bump!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, grind!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)

oh, i only just saw this thread!

so, i am arriving tomorrow afternoon, where do we go, what do we do, etc etc!

― gareth (gareth), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Hi Chris! How are you?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm doing OK!

Gareth, what do you want to do? We have the world's biggest bookstore, we have record shops (and we have no sales tax), and there are plenty of good food and alcohol places and there might even be music. But really let me know what you're interested in!

Sadly I think the 24 hour church of Elvis closed down but we might be able to hit Voodoo Doughnuts for a Pepto-Bismol donut.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

you got mail!

― gareth (gareth), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Pepto-Bismol donut.

This would have been the perfect description of me last night had i chosen the WRONG RESTAURANT!

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Gareth is so close you can almost taste him.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Unless the Seattlites have sucked the flavor out of him, that is.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:03 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.rickwalton.com/riddle/images/riddlg3.jpg

― lyra (lyra), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:44 (twenty-two years ago)

He's here. He is off wandering around on his own. Let's hope he doesn't get rained upon (too much). Tonight there will be food and drinks.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 22:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Let's hope the Wussies don't get him.

― c. (synkro), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Farm him, Casu! (As in, The Farm, that great place with the hazelnuts and the cheese ball.. mmmmmmmmmmm)

(or not, but I definitely wanted to be Farmed when I come down later this month)

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Otherwise, yay, Gareth touches down in portland. :)

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I must come to Portland sometime.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

@d@m, you need to come to the fuckin' Northwest overall, for fuckin' Portland, fuckin' Seattle, and especially muthafuckin' Vancouver. But that's for another muthafuckin' thread.

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I say @d@m should come up for this. Oh it's true.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 22:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Also @d@m do you still need that Brakhage?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 01:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I never thought the day would come when I would see TWO PDX FAPs in the new answers.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 01:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh how charming, you've all been talking to me while I have been out doing my groceries.

We all need Brakhage, Chris. (you mean the DVD?)

I have no plans to make it up to the PNW at the moment, new job and all that, but it has been a lifelong ambition of mine to visit. I'm sure the day will come sooner rather than later.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 01:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, I mean the DVDs.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 01:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Farm him, Casu! (As in, The Farm, that great place with the hazelnuts and the cheese ball.. mmmmmmmmmmm)

Thank God you didn't mean strapping him down and forcing him to listen to a loop of "Groovy Train"...

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 01:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Get on
get on
get on
get on...

― donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 01:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Gareth and Chris have allegedly gone out to search for food. We shall await the results.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:02 (twenty-two years ago)

They got on the gravy train.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Hazelnuts??!? Why, in my day we used to call them filberts, which was the fashion at the time.

― Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:36 (twenty-two years ago)

aimless is right. if yr in oreegawn, it's filberts, buster.

― jack cole (jackcole), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 04:53 (twenty-two years ago)

You're nuts. I just quizzed the two natives on my AIM list and they both responded with "hazelnuts". One had never heard anyone call them filberts. Filberts is, like, Midwestern-speak.

Anyway, to whet Ned's appetite:

http://www.theminorthirds.com/ilx-hazelnuts-cheese.jpg

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 05:56 (twenty-two years ago)

The cheese plate was really fantastic.

Anyway, that was the only picture I took, because I don't like taking pictures of people. The sad thing about this, though, is that you didn't get to see how Gareth was wearing no brown! It was all blues and some green. So there.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 05:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Chris, what the hell is that food in the dish?

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 07:45 (twenty-two years ago)

what were talking to? people with californians for parents?

― jack cole (jackcole), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 07:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Hazelnuts roasted with rosemary and just a splash of tabasco, of all things -- they're completely fantastic. On the other dish is a cheese plate, with a chevre, some very creamy and potent brie of some sort?, a harder and very tangy cheese, and some cheese that had peppercorns in it -- I'm terrible with names and we forgot to ask anyway. Also on that plate are some fresh fruit (strawberries! and oranges, had never gotten those with the cheese plate before) and some quince jelly-type stuff.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Jack: No, people who were 2nd generation (at least) Oregonians.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

And then, just like that, he is gone.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Next, you'll be telling us they don't have those little canned Vienna sausages in Austria. To which I say HAH!

I cannot imagine any second generation (at least) Oregonians who've never heard tell of filberts. I can only imagine their roots are elsewhere than in the NW corner of the state where they are grown. Maybe down in scrub oak (and by extension, acorn) territory down by Medford/Ashland. Or maybe out east in sagebrush (and by extension, cow pie) territory. Or maybe their parents moved here and forgot to talk with their neighbors. Anyhow, "filberts" is the term and it's time your friends wised up to it.

(mumbles) Damn furriners who talk funny. Probably can't pronounce Yachats or Scio, either.

― Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

i want to go to portland too

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)

i think the shift to hazelnuts instead of filberts in oregon (which has taken place over the last 15+ years) has more to do with marketing the nut, "hazelnut" supposedly sounding better than "filbert". where i grew up a lot of filberts were grown. but whatever.

― jack cole (jackcole), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)

jack cole, have you heard that "Fear Of Pop Music" compilation which has a track by the national hardwood floors association (???) i think either Seymour Glass or the Negativland guys calling in to some Christian advice radio show complaining about the affects of filberts on his bowel movements?

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

i tried to google it, but it only shows up in TFUL282 and Molecules discographies.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)

On my first drive down to Ashland me and my roommate (who grew up in the Couve) spent a good half hour coming up with various pronunciations for Scio. I am still kind of disappointed with the proper pronunciation -- I was rooting for something awkward like "Skyo!" or improbably like "Shaw".

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

x-post -- yeah! if i remember right, I think mono pause has copies for sale on their site. god, it's been forever since i heard that.

noodles vs. pasta

― jack cole (jackcole), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Aaah, gyg, thanks for reminding me of a NHFA track that's not on the "Savage Vigilance For A Rug Free America" CD..(I have that "fear of pop music" comp on vinyl, I believe)

(Speaking of which when the hell are tickets for TFUL and Sun City Girls at Berbati's going to go on sale for advance purchase? The latter is at least listed on Berbati's site, but not on TicketsWest's site...)

Anyway, Casu, which form of transportation did Gareth take to go down to SF... train, bus, or plane?

― donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Levitation, obv.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

(But since Oregon has been an immigrant state for its entire existence [OK, there are a few decades I'm not so sure about, but for most of it, clearly] nativism is entirely missing the point. Nth generation Oregonians are great because they're rare and it's nice to have people who actually know the local history, who you can learn it from, but at the same time they're like the DAR of Oregon.)

Gareth is going to take off to Oakland in about 30 minutes.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)

...WITH HIS MIND, yes.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)

http://pod-135.dolphin-server.co.uk/~gareth/photos/5011.jpg

http://pod-135.dolphin-server.co.uk/~gareth/photos/5013.jpg

http://pod-135.dolphin-server.co.uk/~gareth/photos/5014.jpg

http://pod-135.dolphin-server.co.uk/~gareth/photos/5017a.jpg

― gareth (gareth), Friday, 14 May 2004 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, great aerial shot! You can see my house from there! (It's easier to make out the apt building next to my house, though.)

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 14 May 2004 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I think my brother's house might be in that picture but I'm not entirely sure.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 14 May 2004 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)

whoops, nevermind, he lives out by the Tacoma Ave. bridge. His old place wasn't too far from the suicide bridge, though.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 14 May 2004 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

"The" suicide bridge?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 14 May 2004 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

the big one? with the flag? I forget the actual name.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 14 May 2004 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)

The Fremont Bridge?

http://www.iitd.ac.in/cgi-bin/nph-p/http/10.116.2.57/webcivil/bridge/Brtyp/arch/fremont.jpg

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 14 May 2004 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, that one. I thought it was known as the suicide bridge, but maybe I'm wrong?

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 14 May 2004 19:16 (twenty-two years ago)

That's the topmost bridge in Gareth's pic. But it's the highway bridge (405), and I don't think you can easily get up to it as a pedestrian.

I think all the pedestrian bridges in Portland have had their share of suicides; I've heard there was one point when the suicide numbers were through the roof, but I can't seem to google info on when that was or which bridge (if it was just one) was favored.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 14 May 2004 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Though now that you mention it someone might have once said that that bridge was the only one in Portland that was high enough to "ensure" that a suicide attempt would be successful? Maybe.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 14 May 2004 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe, I dunno. I think I saw a guy on a bike on the Fremont bridge once, though.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 14 May 2004 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha, well Seattle's Fremont Bridge, in contrast, is rather hard to commit suicide to, considering it's just mere feet above the river and opens up and down almost every 5 minutes during half the year.

(That said, I've driven across the bridge between Tacoma/University Place and Gig Harbor.. that was once the site of the very infamous twisting bridge that collapsed due to wind resonance in the early part of last century.. the one where you see the footage of the old guy on the twisting bridge scratching his head going "well, shucky darn if this ain't an odd site fer ma eyes!")

― donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 15 May 2004 02:02 (twenty-two years ago)

(actually correction, University Place is the city across from Vashon Island.. strike that)

(although that bridge is near Ruston, Washington.. the smallest independent city in the state, possibly the country, that's completely surrounded by urbania/another major city, in this case, Tacoma... Some history here and apparently some Elephant 6 dudes make reference to it.. why?)

― donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 15 May 2004 02:34 (twenty-two years ago)

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